Re: [Talk-us] OpenTripPlanner info and Trimet

2011-05-01 Thread Tom Brown
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> This is getting slightly OT (if there's an appropriate non-OSM mailing list
> about open transit data / apps in the US, I'd love to learn about it) but is
> there a comprehensive overview of the open-ness of transit authorities in
> the US (GTFS or otherwise)?
>
>
Lists of agencies and data:
http://www.gtfs-data-exchange.com/agencies#filter_official
http://www.citygoround.org/agencies/
http://code.google.com/p/googletransitdatafeed/wiki/PublicFeeds

Some other groups keen for open transit data:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
http://groups.google.com/group/transit-developers
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Re: [Talk-us] Importing campsite in Oregon

2008-08-28 Thread Tom Brown
Since the HooDoo Google My Map wouldn't work I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED],
the contact listed at
http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/willamette/manage/gis/index.html, asking for
campsite locations. She replied with a shp file containing exactly that and
confirmed that the data is public domain (see below). I plan in importing
with source_ref=email:[EMAIL PROTECTED];wil_campsites.zip

Next question: What tools exist to help me merge/conflate the points I'm
importing with existing data (if any)? I could make an osm file that
contains all existing data that might be duplicated and use gpsbabel. I
don't see anything about duplicates at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Import

Sorry for so many questions about a fairly small dataset. I'm getting my
feet wet and plan on working up to larger imports.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Rosana Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Campsite locations in Willamette
To: Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Yes it is, our public website is just woefully out of date and is being
updated.  So eventually, this and more will be available for our publics to
download.  I believe most if not all downloads will be in shapefile format.

Rosana A. Costello
GIS Analyst
CSA 2, Willamette National Forest
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Willamette phone: 541 225-6383



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  Subject
08/27/2008 08:49  Re: Campsite locations in
PMWillamette

Awesome, data looks good thanks to ogr2ogr. Just to be sure, is this data
public domain, the same as data published on the web?
http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/data-library/gis/disclaimers.shtml

Thanks,
Tom
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Re: [Talk-us] Importing campsite in Oregon

2008-08-25 Thread Tom Brown
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Richard Weait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 08:07 -0700, Tom Brown wrote:
> > I'm going to be camping in Oregon in a week. OSM didn't seem to
> > include any campsites in that area so I downloaded positions from the
> > USFS and a private operator and imported them using ogr2ogr, gpsbabel
> > and josm.
> >
> > The USFS data is public domain. I updated
> >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Potential_Datasources#US_Forest_Service
>
> Good find, Tom.
>
> > For the data I got from the google map at
> > http://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm I emailed hoodoo and got this
> > reply:
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: importing campsite locations into Open Street Map
> >
> > Our map comes from Google and I doubt that you need my permission, but
> > if you do, you have it.
> > Hope things go well,
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > Do I need to ping this list for future tiny imports like this? Sorry
> > for not asking first. I wanted to make sure I could do the import
> > before asking and before I knew it the data was uploaded. ;-)
>
> I suggest that you remove the hoodoo uploads from the OSM database for
> now.  I have to guess, because you didn't include your email to Chuck,
> but his reply doesn't sound like, "I collected the data on personal
> trips and authorize you to re-licence it for OSM".  In fact, the only
> things he says is this, "Our map comes from Google..."  While he doesn't
> distinguish between the underlying map which is probably to what he
> refers, and the campsite data which is probably what you uploaded, his
> email does not sound to me like the permission that we require.
>
>
Good point regarding how he made his made. I'll ask him to clearify how he
generated the lat,lng for his map. I suspect he used Google's geocoding +
manual correction using Google map tiles and satellite images, which isn't
kosher. I think this answers my question about asking before uploading :-/

Now, to remove...
curl -g '
http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[source_ref=http://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm][bbox=-124,42,-121,46]<http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node%5Bsource_ref%3Dhttp://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm%5D%5Bbbox=-124,42,-121,46%5D>
'
returns a 500 error.

Getting a single node works...
curl -g '
http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[name=Secret][bbox=-124,42,-121,46]
'



  



  


but I can't get requests by user to work. [user=Tom Brown] seems to just
search for user=Tom and user=Tom+Brown finds nothing. Instead I ran
curl -g '
http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[tourism=camp_site][bbox=-124,42,-121,46]'
> campsites.osm
loaded the osm in josm, did a search to select the hoodoo source_ref data,
deleted and uploaded. Sweet!
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[Talk-us] Importing campsite in Oregon

2008-08-25 Thread Tom Brown
I'm going to be camping in Oregon in a week. OSM didn't seem to include any
campsites in that area so I downloaded positions from the USFS and a private
operator and imported them using ogr2ogr, gpsbabel and josm.

The USFS data is public domain. I updated
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Potential_Datasources#US_Forest_Service

For the data I got from the google map at
http://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm I emailed hoodoo and got this reply:

-- Forwarded message --
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: importing campsite locations into Open Street Map

Our map comes from Google and I doubt that you need my permission, but if
you do, you have it.
Hope things go well,
Chuck


Do I need to ping this list for future tiny imports like this? Sorry for not
asking first. I wanted to make sure I could do the import before asking and
before I knew it the data was uploaded. ;-)

http://toolserver.org/~kolossos/osm/osm-paths-gm.php?kml=http://tools.wikimedia.de/~kolossos/osm/cache/bm9kZVt0b3VyaXNtPWNhbXBfc2l0ZV1bYmJveD0tMTIzLDQzLC0xMjIsNDVd.kmz
http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.67149&lon=-122.4316&zoom=17&layers=0B0FTFT

If there is a problem look for nodes with tag source_ref=
http://www.hoodoo.com/oregon_home.htm or source_ref=
http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/data-library/gis/umpqua/documents/rec_site_pt.zip
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