[Talk-us] MapQuest Open not updating as fast?

2012-07-26 Thread dion_dock
I've noticed that MapQuest Open is not regenerating tiles as fast as it used to 
a month or two ago. Actually, it's hard to tell if it is updating at all. Has 
anyone else noticed this? Maybe I missed an email. 


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Re: [Talk-us] Categorizing Stores/Restaurants

2011-06-16 Thread dion_dock
Businesses don't make it easy when they go by multiple names.  Is it IBM or 
International Business Machines?  BMW or Bayerische Motoren Werke or Bavarian 
Motor Works?  This applies to people too.  Is it Bill Clinton or William 
Clinton?  One is technically correct but no one uses it.

I'm sure you'll find similar issues with punctuation.  IBM or I.B.M.?  
Starbucks Coffee?

In your example of QFC, I'd tag it name=QFC and maybe throw in an 
alternate_name= or note=.

-Dion

> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:58:40 -0700
> From: Clifford Snow 
> To: Josh Kraayenbrink ,
>   talk-us@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Categorizing Stores/Restaurants
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> I'm a newbie and I've come across similar problems.  However, maybe
> the
> solution isn't so much in tags, but a need to normalize *if that's the
> right
> word" the data.  Your example of Sears is good.  If I populate a store
> with
> Sears, why can't I get a potlatch pull down that gives me all the
> correct
> tags for Sears.  Locally we have a grocery chain, QFC.  OSM has it
> listed as
> QFC, QFC Supermarket, QFC (Quality Food Center). and oddly enought,
> QFC
> Parking.  Since QFC is wholly owned by Kroger, there doesn't seem to
> be a
> official name.  Kroger refers to them as QFC and Quality Food Centers
> (QFC).
>  My point is that there is lots of opportunity for interpretation
> when
> entering data.
> 
> Is it possible for potlatch to give suggestions to improve the data?

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Re: [Talk-us] Summer of Code 2011 Ideas

2011-03-11 Thread dion_dock

> As admin for OSM's application to Google's Summer of Code this year,
> I'd
> like to remind everyone that we're looking for some project ideas for
> students to work on here on the wiki page:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2011. The
> application
> deadline is roughly 24 hours away and we only have 2 ideas listed so
> far.
> 
> All OSM-related projects are welcome to add project ideas. Any
> editors,
> tools, or libraries related to OSM should feel free to throw their
> ideas on
> this page so we can have a well-rounded list. Google uses this ideas
> page as
> part of the application process, so we should show them the diverse
> set of
> ideas our community has.
> 
> Please feel free to pass this on to other mailing lists!
> 
> -Ian

It's probably too late but it would be nice to have a better way to 
undo deletions.  It's easy to get the history of a way but how would
I undo the deletion of a way?  

Or maybe I just don't know how to do it?  My impression is I'm 
supposed to somehow find the changeset and send the ID to this 
list and hope someone can/will undo it.

-Dion

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[Talk-us] Portland, OR datasets might be available

2010-03-18 Thread dion_dock
Forgive me if this has been brought up already, but Portland, OR seems to be 
placing some of its data into the public domain. Is the license suitable for 
inclusion in OSM? 

http://www.civicapps.org/about/data-policy 

thanks, 
-Dion 
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[Talk-us] splitting OpenPisteMaps Wiki page?

2010-03-03 Thread dion_dock
I've tried twice to add the Cascade Range to OpenPisteMaps wiki, 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Piste_Maps . Both times the save 
didn't work. The amount of data is over 50K and per the guidelines should be 
split...but I can't find any information on how to create a new page. How do I 
accomplish either? 

thanks, 
-Dion 
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Re: [Talk-us] script for adding layer=1 to bridges

2010-01-28 Thread dion_dock

- "David ``Smith''"  wrote: 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Bill Ricker  wrote: 
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Frederik Ramm  wrote: 
> >> > I've noticed that a lot of bridges don't include a layer= tag. I 
> >> > suspect this is because they render OK in mapnik...but not so well with 
> >> > osmarenderer. (Consider the railroad 
> >> > in 
> >> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.76931&lon=-84.53762&zoom=17&layers=0B00FTF.)
> >> >  

I think a better example is 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.77333&lon=-84.56043&zoom=17&layers=0B00FTF 
. 

Osmarender has drawn the secondary road with its bridge then draws the motorway 
over both. 

> >> 
> >> I'd suggest to modify Osmarender rather than the data, then. 
> > 
> > No this is Tiger import data, the data arrived wrong and was half 
> > corrected. (much of tiger has intersecting nodes where there should be 
> > bridges. some bridge insertion went without layering), It missing all but 
> > implied layering of bridge-nature. What we can't tell without checking 
> > satellite view is whether the bridge is at grade level with the Railroad in 
> > a ditch, or if the bridge pitches up over the RR. 
> 

snip 

> Anyway, I have seen places where people have cleaned up freeway 
> corridors, and neglected to tag "layer" on anything unless there are 
> bridges crossing over other bridges. Mapnik renders this fine 
> (actually that could be considered a deficiency of Mapnik in my 
> opinion) but it looks a little goofy in Osmarender. (On the other 

I agree; since the OSM wiki says bridge=yes needs a layer= tag, Mapnik is 
covering up mistakes in the data. That said, I'm also not a big fan of tags 
that _require_ other tags. Perhaps it should have been bridge=n where n is the 
layer. 

> hand, when one end of a "layer=0" bridge is directly at an 
> intersection with other "layer=0" streets, Osmarender renders this 
> beautifully and Mapnik makes it look odd.) Since some people consider 
> the entire "layer" tag to be "tagging for the renderer" these people 
> probably don't think it's important to add thorough layer information; 
> instead, they add just enough to make it look decent in "the 
> renderer". I am not of that opinion. 

To beat the "tagging for the renderer" horse for a minute: We want to avoid the 
following scenario: someone maps their local gym with shop=gym, name="Abs of 
Steel". The renderer does't do anything for shop=gym, so nothing shows up on 
the map. They then change the tags to something that does render, perhaps, 
leisure=sports_centre. 

However, in this case, they layer= tag is all about getting the map to be 
meaningful. 

I do see a legitimate question about whether a bridge over a river or canyon 
needs a layer tag. In Oregon, rivers are at level 0, just like roads. It sounds 
like some folks are mapping them at layer=-1. 

Maybe I should rephrase my question: is there any harm in adding a layer=1 tag 
to something that is already tagged bridge=yes? Would things be worse after 
doing this? I submit that the maps would look the same or better in most cases. 

Any objection to trying this on a smaller scale, say, just Portland, OR? 

thanks, 
-Dion 

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[Talk-us] script for adding layer=1 to bridges

2010-01-26 Thread dion_dock
I've noticed that a lot of bridges don't include a layer= tag. I suspect this 
is because they render OK in mapnik...but not so well with osmarenderer. 
(Consider the railroad in 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.76931&lon=-84.53762&zoom=17&layers=0B00FTF.)
 


I've spent a little time working on a script that would add a layer=1 tag to 
any way that has a bridge=yes tag but no layer tag. 


What's the right forum to discuss this? How might I go forward using this to 
correct data? I have a few questions about how to format the OSM XML. 


thanks, 
-Dion Dock 



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