Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[Mike Thompson]

Bryan,

Thanks for the update and for making this a priority.

With my instructions to the participants not to use Chrome, last evening's
Mapathon was success, and no one reported any iD related issues (actually
there were no OSM related technical issues at all).  I often get a number
of positive comments about the OSM technology, including iD, at an event,
and yesterday was no different.

Mike

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Bryan Housel <br...@7thposition.com> wrote:

> As far as I know, the issue is only with Chrome on Windows.. Firefox, IE,
> and Edge should be ok.
> We’re tracking it here:  https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3805
>
> It’s very similar to another issue that I fixed in December, so I think I
> can probably get this fixed before the next iD release in a week or two.
>
> The summary of this issue is - your browser generates lots of events for
> things like mouse button clicks and releases (mousedown and mouseup).  We
> use these to know whether you are clicking on things or dragging the map
> around.  Sometimes Chrome on Windows just loses the events - so we see a
> mousedown but not a mouseup, and the user is stuck mid-click while iD waits
> for an event that’s never going to happen.
>
> The fix is to just add some code to watch for this condition. If we’re
> waiting for a mouseup and we detect another mousedown, we know that the
> browser “lost” the mouseup event and we should just carry on as if the user
> is clicking a thing for the first time.
>
> Hope this is helpful.. I marked the issue as “priority” and I think I can
> get it fixed in the next week or so.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 11:00 AM, David Kewley <david.t.kew...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It may be a problem only on Windows -- I have no problem on my Chromebook.
>
> Unfortunately a large fraction of laptops brought to a mapathon are
> typically Windows, I bet.
>
> David
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> I am not having any problem selecting on a click in chrome.
>>
>> I tried every type of feature and everything worked.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
>> *To:* Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
>> *Cc:* Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>; Open Street Map Talk-US <
>> Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph,
>>
>>
>>
>> That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this
>> morning and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I
>> having a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What url are you using for iD?
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me
>> the issues you are having.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
>> *To:* Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>
>> *Cc:* Open Street Map Talk-US <Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow,
>> it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox,
>> and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
>>
>> I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to
>> the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless,
>> I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and
>> others do to maintain it.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[Bryan Housel]

As far as I know, the issue is only with Chrome on Windows.. Firefox, IE, and 
Edge should be ok.
We’re tracking it here:  https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3805 
<https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3805>

It’s very similar to another issue that I fixed in December, so I think I can 
probably get this fixed before the next iD release in a week or two.

The summary of this issue is - your browser generates lots of events for things 
like mouse button clicks and releases (mousedown and mouseup).  We use these to 
know whether you are clicking on things or dragging the map around.  Sometimes 
Chrome on Windows just loses the events - so we see a mousedown but not a 
mouseup, and the user is stuck mid-click while iD waits for an event that’s 
never going to happen.  

The fix is to just add some code to watch for this condition. If we’re waiting 
for a mouseup and we detect another mousedown, we know that the browser “lost” 
the mouseup event and we should just carry on as if the user is clicking a 
thing for the first time. 

Hope this is helpful.. I marked the issue as “priority” and I think I can get 
it fixed in the next week or so.

Thanks,
Bryan




> On Apr 20, 2017, at 11:00 AM, David Kewley <david.t.kew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may be a problem only on Windows -- I have no problem on my Chromebook.
> 
> Unfortunately a large fraction of laptops brought to a mapathon are typically 
> Windows, I bet.
> 
> David
> 
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov 
> <mailto:rd...@catawbacountync.gov>> wrote:
> I am not having any problem selecting on a click in chrome.
> 
> I tried every type of feature and everything worked.
> 
>  
> 
> From: Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com <mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
> To: Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
> Cc: Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com <mailto:techl...@techlady.com>>; 
> Open Street Map Talk-US <Talk-US@openstreetmap.org 
> <mailto:Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?
> 
>  
> 
> Ralph,
> 
>  
> 
> That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this morning 
> and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I having a 
> problem.
> 
>  
> 
> Mike
> 
>  
> 
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov 
> <mailto:rd...@catawbacountync.gov>> wrote:
> 
> What url are you using for iD?
> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit <https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit> in 
> firefox or anywhere else gives me the issues you are having.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com <mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
> To: Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com <mailto:techl...@techlady.com>>
> Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US <Talk-US@openstreetmap.org 
> <mailto:Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com 
> <mailto:techl...@techlady.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it 
> made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and 
> usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
> 
> I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the 
> previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I 
> still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and 
> others do to maintain it.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[David Kewley]

It may be a problem only on Windows -- I have no problem on my Chromebook.

Unfortunately a large fraction of laptops brought to a mapathon are
typically Windows, I bet.

David

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:27 AM, Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
wrote:

> I am not having any problem selecting on a click in chrome.
>
> I tried every type of feature and everything worked.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
> *To:* Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
> *Cc:* Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>; Open Street Map Talk-US <
> Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?
>
>
>
> Ralph,
>
>
>
> That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this
> morning and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I
> having a problem.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
> wrote:
>
> What url are you using for iD?
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me
> the issues you are having.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
> *To:* Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>
> *Cc:* Open Street Map Talk-US <Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow,
> it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox,
> and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
>
> I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to
> the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless,
> I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and
> others do to maintain it.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[Ralph Dell]

I am not having any problem selecting on a click in chrome.
I tried every type of feature and everything worked.

From: Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
Cc: Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>; Open Street Map Talk-US 
<Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

Ralph,

That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this morning 
and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I having a problem.

Mike

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell 
<rd...@catawbacountync.gov<mailto:rd...@catawbacountync.gov>> wrote:
What url are you using for iD?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the 
issues you are having.


From: Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com<mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com<mailto:techl...@techlady.com>>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US 
<Talk-US@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?



On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter 
<techl...@techlady.com<mailto:techl...@techlady.com>> wrote:

Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it 
made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and 
usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the 
previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still 
think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do 
to maintain it.


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Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[Ralph Dell]

I meant to say firefox does not give me any issues. I will test chrome tomorrow.
So much for proof reading what I send.
From: Ralph Dell
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:15 PM
To: 'Mike Thompson' <miketh...@gmail.com>; Charlotte Wolter 
<techl...@techlady.com>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US <Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

What url are you using for iD?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the 
issues you are having.


From: Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com<mailto:techl...@techlady.com>>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US 
<Talk-US@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?



On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter 
<techl...@techlady.com<mailto:techl...@techlady.com>> wrote:

Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it 
made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and 
usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the 
previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still 
think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do 
to maintain it.

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Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[Ralph Dell]

What url are you using for iD?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me the 
issues you are having.


From: Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>
Cc: Open Street Map Talk-US <Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?



On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter 
<techl...@techlady.com<mailto:techl...@techlady.com>> wrote:

Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow, it 
made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox, and 
usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the 
previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I still 
think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and others do 
to maintain it.

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Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[Mike Thompson]

Ralph,

That is the URL I am using.  I have been testing Firefox and IE this
morning and have not been having any problems. Only under Chrome am I
having a problem.

Mike

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Ralph Dell <rd...@catawbacountync.gov>
wrote:

> What url are you using for iD?
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit in firefox or anywhere else gives me
> the issues you are having.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:11 AM
> *To:* Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>
> *Cc:* Open Street Map Talk-US <Talk-US@openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter <techl...@techlady.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow,
> it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox,
> and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
>
> I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to
> the previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless,
> I still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and
> others do to maintain it.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[Mike Thompson]

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Charlotte Wolter 
wrote:

>
> Some updates were made to iD some weeks ago. Apparently, somehow,
> it made clicking on a feature to select it more difficult. I use Firefox,
> and usually have to click 3 or 4 times to get an individual item selected.
>
I wonder if the folks that maintain iD could just temporarily revert to the
previous version while this is worked out?  Just a thought. Regardless, I
still think iD is a great piece of software and appreciate what Bryan and
others do to maintain it.

>
>
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Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] iD issues?

[Charlotte Wolter]

Mike,

Some updates were made to iD some weeks 
ago. Apparently, somehow, it made clicking on a 
feature to select it more difficult. I use 
Firefox, and usually have to click 3 or 4 times 
to get an individual item selected.
I wrote to the iD team about that, and 
Brian Housel replied, saying that they know about 
the issue and it is being worked on. Sounded like 
it had been frustrating them, too.
I also suggested they make the 
"automatic scroll" area around the outside edge 
of the screen smaller. Automatic scrolling can be 
good, but the scrolling border is about an inch 
wide now. Sometimes, when I'm doing an edit, it 
takes off scrolling. To guard against that, I 
have to stay closer to the center of the screen 
than usual. Brian thought that was a good idea.
Of course, they all are volunteers like 
we are, so it may take them some time to diagnose and fix the issues.


Charlotte



At 03:46 PM 4/17/2017, you wrote:
Update: perhaps it is just coincidence, but iD 
appears to be fully working in IE, however, I 
know I have successfully used iD in Chrome in the past.

Mike

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mike Thompson 
<miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am preparing for a mapathon and am reviewing 
the instructions for the participants to make 
sure they are still current and to re 
familiarize myself with iD as I normally us 
JOSM. In the iD editor I am able to add and tag 
new features, but I cannot select existing 
features in order modify their geometry or their 
tags, and I cannot get the context menu to 
appear.  I am using Chrome on Windows. Does 
anyone have any advice or idea as to what I might be doing wrong?


Mike


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