Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > I looked it up again, and I was partly wrong. Turns out only five > states disallow bicycles statewide on freeways: Ohio, Minnesota, Maine, > Indiana, Hawaii and Georgia. The rest may allow it and post such > restrictions at the ramps. The 28 I previously mentioned as allowing it > provide signage for cyclists on freeways. I don't know where you are getting your information but there are at least two more: "BICYCLISTS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM IN KANSAS" http://www.ksdot.org/burrail/bike/biking/ksbicyguid.asp "Bicyclists are not allowed to ride on interstate highways or freeways in Nebraska (a freeway is defined as a fully access controlled highway with "no" at-grade crossings)." http://www.dor.state.ne.us/docs/Bicycle-guide-current.pdf Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
On 03/06/2011 09:59 PM, Josh Kraayenbrink wrote: > I believe the law implies that if there isn't an easy alternative route > within a reasonable distance from the interstate, you CAN ride on that > interstate. Some are explicatively stated no bikes allowed, but I > believe that there are plenty of examples east of the Mississippi that > do allow you to. I looked it up again, and I was partly wrong. Turns out only five states disallow bicycles statewide on freeways: Ohio, Minnesota, Maine, Indiana, Hawaii and Georgia. The rest may allow it and post such restrictions at the ramps. The 28 I previously mentioned as allowing it provide signage for cyclists on freeways. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
False. Bicycles are not allowed on interstates in Indiana. I'm not sure with the other states, but I highly doubt Ohio allows them either. -Original Message- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 22:53 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites On 03/06/2011 09:38 PM, Kristian Zoerhoff wrote: > More like west of the Mississippi. I can't even think of a single > state east of Colorado or Oklahoma that allows bicycles on > limited-access freeways. Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and Tennessee come to mind right off. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
Michigan does not allow this, unless the change was very recent. I certainly didn't see it when visiting the family last year. -- Kristian M Zoerhoff On Mar 6, 2011 9:54 PM, "Paul Johnson" wrote: > On 03/06/2011 09:38 PM, Kristian Zoerhoff wrote: >> More like west of the Mississippi. I can't even think of a single state >> east of Colorado or Oklahoma that allows bicycles on limited-access >> freeways. > > Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and Tennessee come to mind right off. > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
I believe the law implies that if there isn't an easy alternative route within a reasonable distance from the interstate, you CAN ride on that interstate. Some are explicatively stated no bikes allowed, but I believe that there are plenty of examples east of the Mississippi that do allow you to. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
On 03/06/2011 09:38 PM, Kristian Zoerhoff wrote: > More like west of the Mississippi. I can't even think of a single state > east of Colorado or Oklahoma that allows bicycles on limited-access > freeways. Ohio, Michigan, Indiana and Tennessee come to mind right off. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
More like west of the Mississippi. I can't even think of a single state east of Colorado or Oklahoma that allows bicycles on limited-access freeways. -- Kristian M Zoerhoff On Mar 6, 2011 9:29 PM, "Paul Johnson" wrote: > On 03/06/2011 07:51 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: > >> As far as I know, the only US Interstates that allow bicycles are in the Western United States. > > Other way around, generally disallowing bicycles is purely an > eastern-seaboard US thing in North America. Get west of the > Appalachians, and it's generally open to bicycles. > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
On 03/06/2011 07:51 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: > As far as I know, the only US Interstates that allow bicycles are in the > Western United States. Other way around, generally disallowing bicycles is purely an eastern-seaboard US thing in North America. Get west of the Appalachians, and it's generally open to bicycles. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites
I live in the Southeast USA, and have never seen an Interstate on-ramp that lacked signs forbidding all non-motorized traffic, as well as "motor-driven cycles" (the official term for mopeds). Some non-Interstate limited-access freeways allow bicycles, some don't. As far as I know, the only US Interstates that allow bicycles are in the Western United States. "Motorway" is not a standard term in US English, except as people have borrowed the term from British usage. I gather that it is a legal term-of-art in the UK. I don't know any details about its use in Canada. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Bike / Pedestrian directions on the MQ Open sites From :mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org Date :Sun Mar 06 19:21:03 America/Chicago 2011 On 03/06/2011 07:13 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/3/7 Paul Johnson : >> In most states and the vast majority of provinces, bicycles are >> generally permitted except on older sections that lack proper shoulders >> or have exceptionally difficult-to-cross ramps, in which case it's >> explicitly posted at the entrance to this effect anyway. As a rule in >> the US and Canada, all modes are permitted unless explicitly excluded >> per the MUTCD. Only 23 states and as far as I'm aware no provinces ban >> bicycles on all freeways > > that's the rules for freeways then, not for motorways. OK, so.. this isn't a motorway? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_5 Save for brief segments in Oregon and Washington, it's open to bicycles it's entire length. Or this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_84_(west) Open to bicycles even in cities except where there's difficult to cross ramps or a lack of shoulders. ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
