Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Joe Sapletal]

I downloaded the MSP street data this weekend and am currently working through 
getting it to match up with OSM data attributes.  I might have something to 
share soon with the seven metro counties each broken out to not overload the 
Cygnus system., etc.  Stay tuned . . .

Joe Sapletal

From: Martijn van Exel
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Existing challenges all done :)
Let’s look into some new ones then. If someone wants to set up MSP based on 
existing city or TIGER data, that’d be great. 
Martijn


On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

We’re down to 128 as of just now!

Any requests for other cities?

Martijn


On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

There’s currently a total of 1303 tasks in these challenges

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Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Martijn van Exel]

Existing challenges all done :)
Let’s look into some new ones then. If someone wants to set up MSP based on 
existing city or TIGER data, that’d be great. 
Martijn

> On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> 
> We’re down to 128 as of just now!
> 
> Any requests for other cities?
> 
> Martijn
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Martijn van Exel > > wrote:
>> 
>> There’s currently a total of 1303 tasks in these challenges
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Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Martijn van Exel]

I added two tickets to my map team’s tracker:
* One for adding the MSP challenge 
https://github.com/TelenavMapping/Community_involvement/issues/13 
<https://github.com/TelenavMapping/Community_involvement/issues/13> 
* One for looking at adding a challenge to look at new roads from TIGER 
https://github.com/TelenavMapping/Community_involvement/issues/14 
<https://github.com/TelenavMapping/Community_involvement/issues/14>

Martijn

> On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> 
> That is theoretically possible and you could even do it yourself if you are 
> willing to spend some time on it.
> 
> The process is roughly as follows:
> * Download government dataset
> * Convert to OSM PBF using ogr2osm
> * Compare with OSM using Cygnus
> * Convert output file to GeoJSON
> * Upload to MapRoulette.
> 
> See 
> http://blog.improveosm.org/en/2018/01/new-features-and-enhancements-in-cygnus/
>  
> <http://blog.improveosm.org/en/2018/01/new-features-and-enhancements-in-cygnus/>
>  and 
> http://blog.improve-osm.org/en/2018/01/cygnus-conflation-at-your-fingertips/ 
> <http://blog.improve-osm.org/en/2018/01/cygnus-conflation-at-your-fingertips/>
>  for a little more background.
> 
> There’s also an option to use Ian’s workflow to identify missing roads (not 
> missing names, but perhaps it can be adapted) that he uses for the TIGER 
> overlay.
> 
> In the mean time I’m asking the Telenav map team to churn out the files for 
> the Challenge but they’re on some other project right now.
> 
> Martijn
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Joe Sapletal > <mailto:joe.saple...@charter.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> If we do MSP, how about we go 7 county metro and use the data straight from 
>> the counties - 
>> https://gisdata.mn.gov/dataset/us-mn-state-metrogis-trans-mrcc-centerlines 
>> <https://gisdata.mn.gov/dataset/us-mn-state-metrogis-trans-mrcc-centerlines>
>>  
>> Joe Sapletal
>>  
>> From: Ian Dees <mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 9:06 AM
>> To: Martijn van Exel <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>
>> Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap 
>> <mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER
>>  
>> Minneapolis/St. Paul, please!
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 9:02 AM Martijn van Exel > <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote:
>> We’re down to 128 as of just now!
>>  
>> Any requests for other cities?
>>  
>> Martijn
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Martijn van Exel > <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote:
>>  
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Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Martijn van Exel]

That is theoretically possible and you could even do it yourself if you are 
willing to spend some time on it.

The process is roughly as follows:
* Download government dataset
* Convert to OSM PBF using ogr2osm
* Compare with OSM using Cygnus
* Convert output file to GeoJSON
* Upload to MapRoulette.

See 
http://blog.improveosm.org/en/2018/01/new-features-and-enhancements-in-cygnus/ 
<http://blog.improveosm.org/en/2018/01/new-features-and-enhancements-in-cygnus/>
 and 
http://blog.improve-osm.org/en/2018/01/cygnus-conflation-at-your-fingertips/ 
<http://blog.improve-osm.org/en/2018/01/cygnus-conflation-at-your-fingertips/> 
for a little more background.

There’s also an option to use Ian’s workflow to identify missing roads (not 
missing names, but perhaps it can be adapted) that he uses for the TIGER 
overlay.

In the mean time I’m asking the Telenav map team to churn out the files for the 
Challenge but they’re on some other project right now.

Martijn

> On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Joe Sapletal  wrote:
> 
> If we do MSP, how about we go 7 county metro and use the data straight from 
> the counties - 
> https://gisdata.mn.gov/dataset/us-mn-state-metrogis-trans-mrcc-centerlines 
> <https://gisdata.mn.gov/dataset/us-mn-state-metrogis-trans-mrcc-centerlines>
>  
> Joe Sapletal
>  
> From: Ian Dees <mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 9:06 AM
> To: Martijn van Exel <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>
> Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap <mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER
>  
> Minneapolis/St. Paul, please!
> 
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 9:02 AM Martijn van Exel  <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote:
> We’re down to 128 as of just now!
>  
> Any requests for other cities?
>  
> Martijn
> 
> 
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Martijn van Exel  <mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote:
>  
> There’s currently a total of 1303 tasks in these challenges
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Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Joe Sapletal]

If we do MSP, how about we go 7 county metro and use the data straight from the 
counties - 
https://gisdata.mn.gov/dataset/us-mn-state-metrogis-trans-mrcc-centerlines

Joe Sapletal

From: Ian Dees
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 9:06 AM
To: Martijn van Exel
Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

Minneapolis/St. Paul, please!
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 9:02 AM Martijn van Exel  wrote:
We’re down to 128 as of just now!

Any requests for other cities?

Martijn


On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

There’s currently a total of 1303 tasks in these challenges

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Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Martijn van Exel]

We’re down to 128 as of just now!

Any requests for other cities?

Martijn

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> 
> There’s currently a total of 1303 tasks in these challenges

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Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Martijn van Exel]

Mike — 
Perhaps we should post a challenge based on that data then. Ping me if you want 
to work on that.
We’re going to have public leaderboards for challenges on MR soon so it can be 
a fun competition, who can fix the most names.
Martijn

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Mike N  wrote:
> 
> On 11/9/2018 5:36 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>> As an experiment my colleagues from the Telenav map team churned out some 
>> local MapRoulette challenges for adding missing street names from TIGER. The 
>> tasks were created by comparing TIGER (2017) to existing OSM data using our 
>> conflation tool Cygnus, which outputs ways with no names in OSM but that 
>> have names in TIGER.
> 
> Looks like a great list of challenges!
> 
>  Considering that there are a number of counties in my region (Upstate South 
> Carolina) where we plan on synchronizing to the newest official data and 
> verifying against imagery, a TIGER compare challenge would be 
> counter-productive.   There were a great many name changes and street 
> additions and deletions compared to 2007 TIGER and probably even recent TIGER.
> 
>  Of course there's always the chance in the future if all local mappers go 
> inactive, it would make sense to have a TIGER challenge to add the new and 
> growing areas.
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Re: [Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Mike N]

On 11/9/2018 5:36 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
As an experiment my colleagues from the Telenav map team churned out 
some local MapRoulette challenges for adding missing street names from 
TIGER. The tasks were created by comparing TIGER (2017) to existing OSM 
data using our conflation tool Cygnus, which outputs ways with no names 
in OSM but that have names in TIGER.


Looks like a great list of challenges!

  Considering that there are a number of counties in my region (Upstate 
South Carolina) where we plan on synchronizing to the newest official 
data and verifying against imagery, a TIGER compare challenge would be 
counter-productive.   There were a great many name changes and street 
additions and deletions compared to 2007 TIGER and probably even recent 
TIGER.


  Of course there's always the chance in the future if all local 
mappers go inactive, it would make sense to have a TIGER challenge to 
add the new and growing areas.


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[Talk-us] Add street names from TIGER

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all,

As an experiment my colleagues from the Telenav map team churned out some local 
MapRoulette challenges for adding missing street names from TIGER. The tasks 
were created by comparing TIGER (2017) to existing OSM data using our 
conflation tool Cygnus, which outputs ways with no names in OSM but that have 
names in TIGER.

The task is simply to go in and add the name to OSM unless common sense tells 
you not to. I wrote a diary post that talks about these challenges a little 
more: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/46879 
 

We have a few of them currently active:
* New Orleans https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3086 
 
* Albuquerque / Santa Fe https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3066 
 
* Albany https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3088 
 
* Tucson https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3068 
 
* Tulsa https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3067 
 

There’s currently a total of 1303 tasks in these challenges. Just imagine how 
many tasks there could be nationwide. I will send an updated completion number 
for these challenges next week. Please give MapRoulette (another) try and let 
me know any issues or wishes at https://github.com/osmlab/maproulette3/issues 
 

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