Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM, stevea wrote: > ** > For example, a particular residential house in Carmel might be assigned as > an address node tag: > > addr:housename=Casanova Street, East side, third house south of 9th > I think that's better fit for the key addr:full=*. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr I'm whole-cloth inventing this as an example, and again, it would be good > to know what the Post Office does. > I believe the common way to do things over there is to say "Dolores 3rd NW of 8th" if you want to describe the place on the west side of Dolores Street that is the third house north of 8th Street. -- Clay ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number
There is at least one town in the USA, Carmel, California (sometimes called "Carmel-by-the-Sea" as there is also a Carmel Valley which is a half-hour drive from Carmel inland). Carmel does not use addresses per se using house numbers. I have no idea how the Post Office does things -- it really must be quite annoying to them, but they evidently manage somehow. At least in the business district, you'll hear a description of where a business is located as something like: "On Dolores between Fifth and Sixth." That's how I've heard it on at least one radio ad. Clearly, in Carmel (and perhaps Council Hill, Oklahoma?), we'll need to leave the addr:housenumber out of OSM's data entirely, as there really is no such thing. Some houses may have or be reasonably well-known with what fits into OSM as an addr:housename, and indeed there may even be a scheme (same one used by the Post Office?) which does something similar to what the radio ads do for businesses. For example, a particular residential house in Carmel might be assigned as an address node tag: addr:housename=Casanova Street, East side, third house south of 9th I'm whole-cloth inventing this as an example, and again, it would be good to know what the Post Office does. (Or even 911, if it is discernable, as that might be more definitive as it seems more local). But the main reason I share this knowledge is to demonstrate that there is at least one place in the USA that has no numbered addresses as we commonly experience them. SteveA California This and many other annoying addressing schemes used to be common, but I thought the enhanced 911 system did away with this sort of thing. I did a quick google search and I can't find any address for that school though. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought we were focusing on. Oddly enough, the school does have a mailbox on Third near Pine. House numbers don't appear to be a thing in Council Hill, I didn't see anything there (though I was pushing a deadline and running behind, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed it; the schools were definitely was unnumbered). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number
301 would put it at 3rd and Pine (logically, I'm not 100% that Council Hill works this way for sure), though I do have it on good authority that this school (which is combined), has no house number. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Anthony wrote: > I see in some listings a "Midway Elementary School" at 301 Pine > Street. Is this the building you're referring to? Are the high > cchool and the elementary school one building? > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Anthony wrote: > > This and many other annoying addressing schemes used to be common, but > > I thought the enhanced 911 system did away with this sort of thing. I > > did a quick google search and I can't find any address for that school > > though. > > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Johnson > wrote: > >> A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought > we > >> were focusing on. Oddly enough, the school does have a mailbox on Third > >> near Pine. House numbers don't appear to be a thing in Council Hill, I > >> didn't see anything there (though I was pushing a deadline and running > >> behind, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed > it; > >> the schools were definitely was unnumbered). > >> > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number
This and many other annoying addressing schemes used to be common, but I thought the enhanced 911 system did away with this sort of thing. I did a quick google search and I can't find any address for that school though. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought we > were focusing on. Oddly enough, the school does have a mailbox on Third > near Pine. House numbers don't appear to be a thing in Council Hill, I > didn't see anything there (though I was pushing a deadline and running > behind, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed it; > the schools were definitely was unnumbered). > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number
A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought we were focusing on. Oddly enough, the school does have a mailbox on Third near Pine. House numbers don't appear to be a thing in Council Hill, I didn't see anything there (though I was pushing a deadline and running behind, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed it; the schools were definitely was unnumbered). On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Would it be appropriate to include addr:housename? > > On Jan 24, 2013 1:52 PM, "Jason Remillard" > > wrote: > > > >> Just skip the addr:housenumber tag? > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Paul Johnson > >> wrote: > >> > I've run into a situation trying to map a public school. Address as > >> > the post office knows it: > >> > > >> > Midway Public Schools > >> > 3rd Street > >> > Council Hill, OK 74428 > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Talk-us mailing list > >> > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > >> > > >> > > I found the district's website[1], and even it has "PO Box 127" as its > mailing address. The "Multiple addresses" proposal[2] includes addr:pob=* > for PO boxes, so that might work. > > Alexander > > [1] http://midway.k12.ok.us/ > [2] > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number
Paul Johnson wrote: > Would it be appropriate to include addr:housename? > On Jan 24, 2013 1:52 PM, "Jason Remillard" > wrote: > >> Just skip the addr:housenumber tag? >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Paul Johnson >> wrote: >> > I've run into a situation trying to map a public school. Address as >> > the post office knows it: >> > >> > Midway Public Schools >> > 3rd Street >> > Council Hill, OK 74428 >> > >> > ___ >> > Talk-us mailing list >> > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > >> I found the district's website[1], and even it has "PO Box 127" as its mailing address. The "Multiple addresses" proposal[2] includes addr:pob=* for PO boxes, so that might work. Alexander [1] http://midway.k12.ok.us/ [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number
Would it be appropriate to include addr:housename? On Jan 24, 2013 1:52 PM, "Jason Remillard" wrote: > Just skip the addr:housenumber tag? > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I've run into a situation trying to map a public school. Address as the > > post office knows it: > > > > Midway Public Schools > > 3rd Street > > Council Hill, OK 74428 > > > > ___ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Addresses with no house number
I've run into a situation trying to map a public school. Address as the post office knows it: Midway Public Schools 3rd Street Council Hill, OK 74428 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
