Re: [Talk-us] Bicycle Routes

2014-10-27 Thread Paul Johnson
OK, just got back in from Watonga and I'm still rather dehydrated,
exhausted, and think I got a bit of the post-convention blues and a touch
of concrud from a week at Roman Nose State Park for Oklacon 12
, which was an especially long drive this time due
to a bridge out in Kingfisher, requiring a ~40 mi detour on OK 33, and
another repaving project that had the highway down to less than half it's
usual speed.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Mike Henson 
wrote:

> How can I tag unofficial bicycle routes in my community?
> For example, the City of Stillwater has documented with actual signs on
> the road these routes (
> http://stillwater.org/document_center/Bike_Routes.pdf)
> I have tagged these as "lcn=yes" and named them all Stillwater Bicycle
> Routes in a relation.
>

I wouldn't put them all in a single relation, but one relation per route.
This can be tedious.  See Tulsa and Portland for examples.


> There is a bicycle club that has created other routes that do not have
> actual signage on the roads. see
> http://www.reddirtpedalers.org/local-routes
> For Club routes, I could tag them as reddirtpedalers routes (i.e.
> Reddirtpedalers Couch Park Loop)
> http://www.reddirtpedalers.org/local-routes/13-couch-park-loop
>
> For the Club routes:
> Should I use "lcn=proposed"? (this is not valid, because they are not
> being proposed and most of them are outside city limits. the county does
> not have any routes)
> Should I use "lcn=unofficial"?
> Should I use "lcn=club"?
> Should the name include "unofficial" OR "bicycle = undesignated"?
>

Name is just the name.  Not sure how to tag unofficial routes other than
bicycle=yes.


> Also, using Stava data, I can see other used roads that are not bicycle
> routes, but they are widely used. see
> http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#250/13/-97.06824/36.12651
> Lakeview Road north west of Stillwater going out to Lake McMurtry is a
> nice blacktop road without a lot of traffic, If I was riding a bicycle, I
> would use this road.
> Should I tag these "commonly used bicycle routes"?
>

Describe the nature of the route.  Some handy tags are on the Bicycle wiki
page

.


>
>
I assume official = signage on the road.
>

Right.
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Re: [Talk-us] Bicycle Routes

2014-10-23 Thread Harald Kliems
It is common practice to only tag the ones with actual signs on the road.
For all the other ones you mentioned you should instead add the physical
characteristics that make them popular with cyclists (surface, lane count,
width, shoulder, smoothness, incline, etc.).

 Harald.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Mike Henson 
wrote:

> How can I tag unofficial bicycle routes in my community?
> For example, the City of Stillwater has documented with actual signs on
> the road these routes (
> http://stillwater.org/document_center/Bike_Routes.pdf)
> I have tagged these as "lcn=yes" and named them all Stillwater Bicycle
> Routes in a relation.
>
> There is a bicycle club that has created other routes that do not have
> actual signage on the roads. see
> http://www.reddirtpedalers.org/local-routes
> For Club routes, I could tag them as reddirtpedalers routes (i.e.
> Reddirtpedalers Couch Park Loop)
> http://www.reddirtpedalers.org/local-routes/13-couch-park-loop
>
> For the Club routes:
> Should I use "lcn=proposed"? (this is not valid, because they are not
> being proposed and most of them are outside city limits. the county does
> not have any routes)
> Should I use "lcn=unofficial"?
> Should I use "lcn=club"?
> Should the name include "unofficial" OR "bicycle = undesignated"?
>
> Also, using Stava data, I can see other used roads that are not bicycle
> routes, but they are widely used. see
> http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#250/13/-97.06824/36.12651
> Lakeview Road north west of Stillwater going out to Lake McMurtry is a
> nice blacktop road without a lot of traffic, If I was riding a bicycle, I
> would use this road.
> Should I tag these "commonly used bicycle routes"?
>
> I assume official = signage on the road.
>
> Mike Henson
>
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[Talk-us] Bicycle Routes

2014-10-23 Thread Mike Henson
How can I tag unofficial bicycle routes in my community?
For example, the City of Stillwater has documented with actual signs on the
road these routes (http://stillwater.org/document_center/Bike_Routes.pdf)
I have tagged these as "lcn=yes" and named them all Stillwater Bicycle
Routes in a relation.

There is a bicycle club that has created other routes that do not have
actual signage on the roads. see http://www.reddirtpedalers.org/local-routes
For Club routes, I could tag them as reddirtpedalers routes (i.e.
Reddirtpedalers Couch Park Loop)
http://www.reddirtpedalers.org/local-routes/13-couch-park-loop

For the Club routes:
Should I use "lcn=proposed"? (this is not valid, because they are not being
proposed and most of them are outside city limits. the county does not have
any routes)
Should I use "lcn=unofficial"?
Should I use "lcn=club"?
Should the name include "unofficial" OR "bicycle = undesignated"?

Also, using Stava data, I can see other used roads that are not bicycle
routes, but they are widely used. see
http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#250/13/-97.06824/36.12651
Lakeview Road north west of Stillwater going out to Lake McMurtry is a nice
blacktop road without a lot of traffic, If I was riding a bicycle, I would
use this road.
Should I tag these "commonly used bicycle routes"?

I assume official = signage on the road.

Mike Henson
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