Re: [Talk-us] How to tag toll roads
ISTM: tag mainline Thruway toll-free from the exit 25A on/off ramps to exit 24 off/on ramps in free travel zone. Tag ramps to/from 25A, 25, and 24 toll-free in direction of free travel but tolled in direction of tolled travel. (So for example a 25-24 trip or 24-25 trip, which would be tolled, would pass through the tolled ramps at 25.) Looking at Mapquest Open, which distinguishes toll and non-toll segments visually, that's how it appears to be tagged already (along with the free travel route to/from I-88 to NY/I-890 at Exit 26). So it seems to be right. Chris On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 3/17/13 11:09 PM, Evan Robohm wrote: My question is how literally should we as mappers tag them--like the Wiki page says or as they're advertised on road signs? This also applies to how ramps are tagged--does toll=yes only apply to ramps with toll booths or to ramps that lead into/out of a tollway? it can get worse than that. for the NYS Thruway (I 87 from NYC to Albany, I 90 from Albany to the PA state Line), there is no toll for a transit from Exit 25A to Exit 24 (and vice versa), and no toll for a transit from Exit 25A to Exit 25 (and vice versa). the toll booth attendant takes your ticket and if you got on at the right place, there's no toll... i have absolutely no clue how to tag this. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] How to tag toll roads
Hi all, It seems like, at least in the US, that there isn't a clear way of mapping toll roads, the Wiki page (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:toll) saying only inescapable sections of the highway that are subject a toll should be tagged toll=yes (ex: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.9456lon=-81.2607zoom=13layers=Q). Most of them are tagged as the whole road being tolled, regardless of whether all ramps are or aren't tolled or if only selected ramps are tolled (ex: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.00069lon=-77.47863zoom=15layers=Q). A good example of a dispute between these two methods is the Dulles Greenway and Dulles Toll Road (VA-267) in the Washington, DC Metro Area. The Greenway is a privately owned toll road with all EB off ramps and WB on ramps tolled (except for Exit 2) along with a main plaza at the eastern end of the road. It continues into the Dulles Toll Road (publicly owned) with all WB off ramps and EB on ramps tolled, and a main plaza just before it reaches the beltway (I-495). (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.934lon=-77.315zoom=11layers=Q) Both are advertised as toll roads on highway signs. My question is how literally should we as mappers tag them--like the Wiki page says or as they're advertised on road signs? This also applies to how ramps are tagged--does toll=yes only apply to ramps with toll booths or to ramps that lead into/out of a tollway? Thanks, Evan Evanator http://osm.org/user/Evanator___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How to tag toll roads
On 3/17/13 11:09 PM, Evan Robohm wrote: My question is how literally should we as mappers tag them--like the Wiki page says or as they're advertised on road signs? This also applies to how ramps are tagged--does toll=yes only apply to ramps with toll booths or to ramps that lead into/out of a tollway? it can get worse than that. for the NYS Thruway (I 87 from NYC to Albany, I 90 from Albany to the PA state Line), there is no toll for a transit from Exit 25A to Exit 24 (and vice versa), and no toll for a transit from Exit 25A to Exit 25 (and vice versa). the toll booth attendant takes your ticket and if you got on at the right place, there's no toll... i have absolutely no clue how to tag this. richard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How to tag toll roads
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 3/17/13 11:09 PM, Evan Robohm wrote: My question is how literally should we as mappers tag them--like the Wiki page says or as they're advertised on road signs? This also applies to how ramps are tagged--does toll=yes only apply to ramps with toll booths or to ramps that lead into/out of a tollway? it can get worse than that. for the NYS Thruway (I 87 from NYC to Albany, I 90 from Albany to the PA state Line), there is no toll for a transit from Exit 25A to Exit 24 (and vice versa), and no toll for a transit from Exit 25A to Exit 25 (and vice versa). the toll booth attendant takes your ticket and if you got on at the right place, there's no toll... i have absolutely no clue how to tag this. There's also a few segments on the Oklahoma turnpikes where it's possible to run toll-free on an otherwise toll road (such as from one entrance ramp to an adjacent concessions plaza and back to the originating ramp, though in that case, it's the only legal u turn movement, and basically a courtesy to the people who work at the concessions plaza), or from US 75 to the west end of the Creek Turnpike (which if you don't have a pikepass, is toll-free; really wish we didn't go from transponders to NFC tags for this, as with the transponders, I would turn it off entering the Creek Turnpike and turn it on entering the Turner Turnpike, thus getting the cash fare on the creek and the electronic toll fare on the turner...) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
