Re: [Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-09-12 Thread Greg Morgan
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea <
stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote:

> I wanted to chime in my great enthusiasm for Greg Morgan helping or
> leading a good, chunky data effort in OSM like this.  Greg took on the USBR
> 90 effort in Arizona, hundreds and hundreds of miles of bicycle route, now
> very well entered in OSM and AASHTO-approved.  It took him weeks, but it
> would take anybody weeks or months, and he did a fantastic job.
>
> Greg was like a co-pilot, taking his responsibilities very seriously,
> using Mapillary to super effect, asking excellent questions, taking the
> small amount of direction required very well and just being all-around a
> top-notch communicator and team member.  If you have any interest in this
> Idaho project, notice that below, Greg offers to lead the effort!  So,
> listen up and throw your shoulder in with him and watch wonderful things
> happen in OSM with Greg at the helm.  Collaborating with him is like an
> enjoyable adventure!
>
> Regards,
> SteveA
> California
>
>
Steve,

Thanks for the kind words.  August was consumed with other activities than
OSM. At Elliot Plack's prompting a github repo was established.[1]  There
are a number of data questions that have come up.  Just like the USBR 90
project in Arizona where I established a relationship with the state
bicycle coordinator, I am using a similar approach with this effort. Teton
Idaho has been thankful for a few questions that I have brought up.  I sent
off additional questions this morning.  In addition, the repo has
educational qualities to it.  I believe that will be far more important
than just shoving the data into OSM.

Regards,
Greg


[1] https://github.com/osmlab/teton-idaho
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Re: [Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-08-09 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
I wanted to chime in my great enthusiasm for Greg Morgan helping or leading a 
good, chunky data effort in OSM like this.  Greg took on the USBR 90 effort in 
Arizona, hundreds and hundreds of miles of bicycle route, now very well entered 
in OSM and AASHTO-approved.  It took him weeks, but it would take anybody weeks 
or months, and he did a fantastic job.

Greg was like a co-pilot, taking his responsibilities very seriously, using 
Mapillary to super effect, asking excellent questions, taking the small amount 
of direction required very well and just being all-around a top-notch 
communicator and team member.  If you have any interest in this Idaho project, 
notice that below, Greg offers to lead the effort!  So, listen up and throw 
your shoulder in with him and watch wonderful things happen in OSM with Greg at 
the helm.  Collaborating with him is like an enjoyable adventure!

Regards,
SteveA
California

> Ha! Ha!  I looked at the data last night because I drove through the
> area on I-15 in early February...well it was near by Teton Idaho.
> Then in May of this year I drove through Wyoming...well it was near by
> Teton Wyoming.  I am familiar with both areas.  I left a Mapillary
> trail in both cases. There are only 11K addresses in the dbf file.  I
> don't know how many foot prints are in the data, yet.  What I thought
> about is that the US community could use the data as an example of how
> to process the data for an import.  There are a number of questions in
> the data and a template can be developed with a project like this. Oh!
> I won't be standing in line.  I will would be happy to lead the
> effort.  I wanted to make sure that no one else had called dibs yet.
(et cetera)


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Re: [Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-08-08 Thread Greg Morgan
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Martijn van Exel
 wrote:
> To add to the confusion created by me: someone pointed out that there is in
> fact a Teton County in both Idaho and Wyoming. The person I have been in
> touch with is from the Teton Co. in Idaho. So no Jackson Hole or Grand Teton
> NP there, but the eclipse still passes and you have almost just as awesome a
> view of the Tetons from the west..At a fraction of the cost :)
>
> But...Anyone want to map? Look at all this stuff that's not in OSM yet :)

Ha! Ha!  I looked at the data last night because I drove through the
area on I-15 in early February...well it was near by Teton Idaho.
Then in May of this year I drove through Wyoming...well it was near by
Teton Wyoming.  I am familiar with both areas.  I left a Mapillary
trail in both cases. There are only 11K addresses in the dbf file.  I
don't know how many foot prints are in the data, yet.  What I thought
about is that the US community could use the data as an example of how
to process the data for an import.  There are a number of questions in
the data and a template can be developed with a project like this. Oh!
 I won't be standing in line.  I will would be happy to lead the
effort.  I wanted to make sure that no one else had called dibs yet.
I was thinking that GIS school projects or, say, maptime kind-of
groups might want to join in as part of a tasking effort. The tasks
can be made small enough that they won't overwhelm a new mapper or
won't require a large time expenditure for an experienced mapper.

Before anyone pipes up about damage to a local community because of an
import, there's none.  On said I-15 trip, I stopped in Beaver Utah for
the night.[1]  In one feel swoop of a change set several days later, I
got to stand on the shoulders of giants: I modified nodes touched by
Dave Hansen, Balrug-kun, and NE2.  The area had not been worked since
the early days of the US project.  The local Beaver paper said that
the community was more worried about Boy Scout badges, a fire that
ruined a home, and the like. The great open places[2] like Top Of The
World [3] are more important than a mapathon.

Regards,
Greg

[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/38.25104/-112.64784
[2] 
https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/drkludge?lat=44.9747045&lng=-109.4556432&z=17&pKey=TkS55trFermdh6Dx2sf5Jg&focus=photo&menu=true
[3] 
https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/drkludge?lat=44.9427626001&lng=-109.5602966&z=17&pKey=cY_TJx1nQONQeF32AxXRYw&focus=photo&menu=true

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Re: [Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-08-08 Thread Mike N

On 8/8/2016 2:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

But...Anyone want to map? Look at all this stuff that's not in OSM yet :)


  I haven't looked, but what is in the data?   Roads? Trails? 
Addresses?   I could see people being lost on old trail / track data, 
but the road network is generally routable, just lacking most addresses 
with an occasional route bobble.


  In any case, if I cited the source in an upload, it would be handy to 
have a Wiki page that makes it clear that the source was public domain.



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Re: [Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-08-08 Thread Martijn van Exel
To add to the confusion created by me: someone pointed out that there is in
fact a Teton County in both Idaho and Wyoming. The person I have been in
touch with is from the Teton Co. in Idaho. So no Jackson Hole or Grand
Teton NP there, but the eclipse still passes and you have almost just as
awesome a view of the Tetons from the west..At a fraction of the cost :)

But...Anyone want to map? Look at all this stuff that's not in OSM yet :)

Martijn


Martijn van Exel
Secretary, US Chapter
OpenStreetMap
http://openstreetmap.us/
http://osm.org/
skype: mvexel

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Jack Burke  wrote:

> The errors in OSM must be worse than we thought if Martijn can't tell
> which state he's in!
>
> -jack
>
> --
> Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology
>
> On August 8, 2016 1:19:32 PM EDT, "Shawn K. Quinn" 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2016-08-08 at 11:15 -0600, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>>
>>>  Ahem. Teton County is in Wyoming not Idaho. This is emberrassing!
>>>
>>
>> Actually, there is a Teton County, Idaho:
>>
>> http://tetoncountyidaho.gov/
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-08-08 Thread Jack Burke
The errors in OSM must be worse than we thought if Martijn can't tell which 
state he's in! 

-jack

-- 
Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology

On August 8, 2016 1:19:32 PM EDT, "Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:
>On Mon, 2016-08-08 at 11:15 -0600, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>> Ahem. Teton County is in Wyoming not Idaho. This is emberrassing!
>
>Actually, there is a Teton County, Idaho:
>
>http://tetoncountyidaho.gov/
>
>
>
>-- 
>Shawn K. Quinn 
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-08-08 Thread Martijn van Exel
Ahem. Teton County is in Wyoming not Idaho. This is emberrassing!

Martijn

Martijn van Exel
http://mvexel.github.io/

On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hey all, and mappers in Idaho in particular!
>
> I spoke with the GIS person of Teton County in Idaho. This is a popular
> area with tourists (Grand Teton NP, Jackson Hole, ECLIPSE 2017!!) and he
> received an increasing number of complaints from folks getting lost using
> apps / sites based on OSM data. He offered locally produced, surveyed
> (craft!) data so we may improve OSM. I uploaded it here[1], who wants to
> take a stab at thinking about ways to incorporate improvements into OSM?
>
> I did confirm with him that this data resides in the PD but I can get a
> written note to that effect if you want.
>
> I am also happy to put you in touch with him if you want.
>
> Martijn
>
> [1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/3au2uwulx14rzqu/TetonCounty_
> OSM_Data.zip?dl=0
>
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-08-08 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2016-08-08 at 11:15 -0600, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> Ahem. Teton County is in Wyoming not Idaho. This is emberrassing!

Actually, there is a Teton County, Idaho:

http://tetoncountyidaho.gov/



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[Talk-us] Mappers in Idaho!

2016-08-07 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hey all, and mappers in Idaho in particular!

I spoke with the GIS person of Teton County in Idaho. This is a popular
area with tourists (Grand Teton NP, Jackson Hole, ECLIPSE 2017!!) and he
received an increasing number of complaints from folks getting lost using
apps / sites based on OSM data. He offered locally produced, surveyed
(craft!) data so we may improve OSM. I uploaded it here[1], who wants to
take a stab at thinking about ways to incorporate improvements into OSM?

I did confirm with him that this data resides in the PD but I can get a
written note to that effect if you want.

I am also happy to put you in touch with him if you want.

Martijn

[1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/3au2uwulx14rzqu/TetonCounty_OSM_Data.zip?dl=0
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