Re: [Talk-us] NYC neighborhood data

2013-04-06 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
 Kushal

 welcome to OSM. Please feel free to improve our data, while adding the
 neighbourhoods as a first project is going to result in a fairly steep
 learning curve for you, it is certainly doable.

Hi Kushal,

I'd suggest that you come to the upcoming OSM NYC meeting before
changing any of the neighborhood data in NYC.

Neighborhood data, especially in NY, is a pretty tricky thing. Some
neighborhoods are well established and understood, while others are
not, and are fluid. I'd love to see improvements of those which are
well established, but some others are not so clear cut.

It's always important to try to work with the local community on some
massive changes, and you're lucky enough to live in a city with an
active OSM community, and we have monthly meetings and a mailing list.

http://www.meetup.com/osm-nyc

- Serge

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[Talk-us] NYC neighborhood data

2013-04-05 Thread Kushal Khan
Hi,

I really love your site, but wanted to help with some updates. Some of the
neighborhood data for NYC is  inaccurate. For example, http://nominatim.
openstreetmap.org/reverse? osm_type=Nosm_id=2184804432 is not in the
Diamond District nor Chelsea - it's in Midtown East. Also
http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/reverse? osm_type=Nosm_id=2184803604 is
not in Chatham Towers nor Greenwich Village - it's in Soho.

If you want a benchmark source for creating admin boundaries, I feel this
wikipedia link is very accurate with determining borders of neighborhood:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ Manhattan_neighborhoods (the image
displayed in 'Full resolution' is useful), but the wiki provides excessive
sub-neighborhood detail impractical to the way most New Yorkers think. I
feel this site has a good concept of practical neighborhood breakdowns:
http://www. nyctourist.com/map1.htm, maybe this with the borders defined on
wikipedia can serve as a reference guide.

I know neighborhood distinctions can be a very subjective issue, but the
current info on openstreetmaps is materially inaccurate. I love the concept
of your site and want to contribute.

Please let me know if I can assist any further.

Regards,
Kushal
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Re: [Talk-us] NYC neighborhood data

2013-04-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/4/5 Kushal Khan kus...@foodinhood.com

 I know neighborhood distinctions can be a very subjective issue, but the
 current info on openstreetmaps is materially inaccurate. I love the concept
 of your site and want to contribute.



get yourself an account and correct the data, its a wiki map ;-)

cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Talk-us] NYC neighborhood data

2013-04-05 Thread alyssa wright
Hi Kushal,

There's a group of us in NYC that will be participating in the OSM
editathonhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_Spring_Editathon_2013April
20-21st.  This could be something to address then.  There should be
an announcement on the OSM NYC / meetup board or you can contact me
directly for details (that we're still working out).

Best,
Alyssa.


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:


 2013/4/5 Kushal Khan kus...@foodinhood.com

 I know neighborhood distinctions can be a very subjective issue, but the
 current info on openstreetmaps is materially inaccurate. I love the concept
 of your site and want to contribute.



 get yourself an account and correct the data, its a wiki map ;-)

 cheers,
 Martin

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Re: [Talk-us] NYC neighborhood data

2013-04-05 Thread Simon Poole
Kushal

welcome to OSM. Please feel free to improve our data, while adding the
neighbourhoods as a first project is going to result in a fairly steep
learning curve for you, it is certainly doable.

Unluckily the map used in Wikipedia is unlikely to be usable directly in
OSM for licence reasons,  however you could either refer to the PD maps
that were used in creating it or simply ask the original author for
permission to include the information in OSM.

Simon

Am 05.04.2013 21:36, schrieb Kushal Khan:

 Hi,

 I really love your site, but wanted to help with some updates. Some of
 the neighborhood data for NYC is  inaccurate. For example,
 http://nominatim. openstreetmap.org/reverse
 http://openstreetmap.org/reverse? osm_type=Nosm_id=2184804432 is
 not in the Diamond District nor Chelsea - it's in Midtown East. Also
 http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/reverse?
 osm_type=Nosm_id=2184803604 is not in Chatham Towers nor Greenwich
 Village - it's in Soho.

 If you want a benchmark source for creating admin boundaries, I feel
 this wikipedia link is very accurate with determining borders of
 neighborhood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_
 Manhattan_neighborhoods (the image displayed in 'Full resolution' is
 useful), but the wiki provides excessive sub-neighborhood detail
 impractical to the way most New Yorkers think. I feel this site has a
 good concept of practical neighborhood breakdowns: http://www.
 nyctourist.com/map1.htm http://nyctourist.com/map1.htm, maybe this
 with the borders defined on wikipedia can serve as a reference guide.

 I know neighborhood distinctions can be a very subjective issue, but
 the current info on openstreetmaps is materially inaccurate. I love
 the concept of your site and want to contribute.

 Please let me know if I can assist any further.

 Regards,
 Kushal



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