Re: [Talk-us] New National Parks Mailing List
I think we will be VERY reliant on Arm Chair Mappers to help add the NPS contribution to the community. Program needs will vary from park to park. Once I get a solid methodology for park OSM tagging worked out, I'll be looking for assistance with Great Smoky Mtns.. Another important aspect of NPS OSM mapping, IMHO, is mapping the surrounding community of a park (or improving its mapping). Most US Park are in the middle of nowhere and there aren't a lot (if any) OSM mappers around the park. The ability to accurately map in and around a park, so visitors can experience a high-quality navigation experience will improve the overall visitor experience, a major component of our mission to the public. Most parks have multiple entrances, trails that start at a boundary, rental communities around the park, fuel and dining...you'd be surprised at how bad TIGER data is for these smaller communities that no one pays attention to in terms of FH dollars. So this leads to, how do we map outside of a park? The NPS can't be involved in bulk-imports of other agency data due to conflict of interest. Some communities hold their data very closely, as it is a revenue stream. So do we just edit roads and POI's around a park 1 by 1 in ID? We are in discussions with our surrounding communities in TN and NC to move SOME of their data to OSM, but again, we'd need OSM mappers to do it, and the GIS people tell me their county gov't is not likely to approve a bulk import. From: Kathleen Danielson [mailto:kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:56 AM To: Clifford Snow Cc: talk-us Subject: Re: [Talk-us] New National Parks Mailing List Quick question: will there be opportunities for armchair mappers to help, or are you only looking for on-the-ground knowledge? On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: During discussions in presentations at this years SOTM-US, participants expressed a desire to create a mailing list for people interested in collaborating to improving our maps of National Parks. We will use this list to develop goals and processes to improve mapping of National Parks. Joining the list will be National Parks Service employes to help us in this process. Once the presentations from State of the Map US are posted we'll get links out to two great presentations by Nate Irwin and Mamata Akella about how the National Parks Service is working with OSM to improve both official NPS maps as well as OSM. If you would like to join in other OSM mappers and the National Parks Service, please sign up to the new National Parks mail list at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us-nps. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New National Parks Mailing List
Once I get a solid methodology for park OSM tagging worked out, I am hoping I am misunderstanding this, but isn't it up to the OSM community to arrive at a consensus as to how things should be tagged? Another important aspect of NPS OSM mapping, *IMHO*, is mapping the surrounding community of a park (or improving its mapping). I would think that local business associations, such as chambers of commerce, would be interested. I understand that local park official maintain relations with such organizations. The park and the local business community are mutually dependent on each other in a way. They may help us connect to other groups that could help with the mapping, such as a local high school geography class (that is if they still teach the subject in high school). you’d be surprised at how bad TIGER data is for these smaller communities I am not surprised. I have seen many examples in small towns and rural areas. So do we just edit roads and POI’s around a park 1 by 1 in ID? Or in JOSM, or... pick your favorite editor. Nothing wrong with doing one edit at a time, just need to bring more people into the OSM community to do it all! Mike ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] New National Parks Mailing List
During discussions in presentations at this years SOTM-US, participants expressed a desire to create a mailing list for people interested in collaborating to improving our maps of National Parks. We will use this list to develop goals and processes to improve mapping of National Parks. Joining the list will be National Parks Service employes to help us in this process. Once the presentations from State of the Map US are posted we'll get links out to two great presentations by Nate Irwin and Mamata Akella about how the National Parks Service is working with OSM to improve both official NPS maps as well as OSM. If you would like to join in other OSM mappers and the National Parks Service, please sign up to the new National Parks mail list at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us-nps. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New National Parks Mailing List
Quick question: will there be opportunities for armchair mappers to help, or are you only looking for on-the-ground knowledge? On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: During discussions in presentations at this years SOTM-US, participants expressed a desire to create a mailing list for people interested in collaborating to improving our maps of National Parks. We will use this list to develop goals and processes to improve mapping of National Parks. Joining the list will be National Parks Service employes to help us in this process. Once the presentations from State of the Map US are posted we'll get links out to two great presentations by Nate Irwin and Mamata Akella about how the National Parks Service is working with OSM to improve both official NPS maps as well as OSM. If you would like to join in other OSM mappers and the National Parks Service, please sign up to the new National Parks mail list at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us-nps. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
