Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Mike Dupont]

I also did not click decline, and I dont see why it has to be that
easy. I have said many times, all my work outside of kosovo and
albania you can relicense. I dont see a button for that?
Why should I make it easy for you? I put months of work into it, and
spent also alot of money traveling around and talking to people. why
should I just give it up ?
mike

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> 80n wrote:
>> Richard, I already did fix it, just not in the way that you'd like.
>> Sorry.
>
> Ok. If that's final, could I then ask you to have the courage of your
> convictions and actually click 'Decline' to the Contributor Terms, please,
> rather than leaving it hanging as 'Undecided'?
>
> cheers
> Richard
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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[andrzej zaborowski]

Hi Grant,

On 14 December 2011 21:48, Humphries, Grant  wrote:
> It was mentioned balrog-kun’s automated edits are exempted from being
> reverted.  Can anyone expand on that or point me in the direction to find
> more information about this?  Does anyone have an idea of what percentage of
> edits done from that account were automated?

The changesets tagged bot=yes are automated and it was mentioned
somewhere in LWG minutes that those could be relicensed.  They're not
100% automated, but mostly (i.e. about a day of manual review went
into each of the abbreviations expanding changesets).  AFAIK
Frederik's visualization tool already treats those changesets as
clean.

It is a small percentage of my edits changeset-count-wise but they are
large changesets so it's a notable percentage data wise.

(I hope my other changesets will not be reverted either but it's hard
to tell right now with the amount of false assumptions made in the
license change process)
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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Richard Fairhurst]

Grant Humphries wrote:
> Can anyone expand on that or point me in the direction to 
> find more information about this?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quick_History_Service#Changeset_Overrides
should be right. I'm sure Andrzej can supply more details if required.

cheers
Richard



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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Nathan Edgars II]

On 12/14/2011 3:48 PM, Humphries, Grant wrote:

It was mentioned balrog-kun’s automated edits are exempted from being
reverted. Can anyone expand on that or point me in the direction to find
more information about this? Does anyone have an idea of what percentage
of edits done from that account were automated?


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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Humphries, Grant]

It was mentioned balrog-kun's automated edits are exempted from being reverted. 
 Can anyone expand on that or point me in the direction to find more 
information about this?  Does anyone have an idea of what percentage of edits 
done from that account were automated?


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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Toby Murray]

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:33 AM, CrystalWalrein  wrote:
> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-74.38020&lat=39.61912&zoom=11&overlays=overview,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created
>
> &$!@#$, this is not good. Time for: a) another road jaunt to get these
> places sorted out, or b) creating duplicate ways to avoid wasting petrol.

First thing I'd try is personally contacting user kyrbyboy. If he
doesn't respond to the OSM messaging system, he seems to have an
account with recent activity on tripadvisor.ca - not sure if you can
initiate contact through their system or not:
http://www.tripadvisor.ca/members-photos/kyrbyboy

Toby

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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[CrystalWalrein]

http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-74.38020&lat=39.61912&zoom=11&overlays=overview,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created

&$!@#$, this is not good. Time for: a) another road jaunt to get these
places sorted out, or b) creating duplicate ways to avoid wasting petrol.

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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Richard Fairhurst]

80n wrote:
> Richard, I already did fix it, just not in the way that you'd like. 
> Sorry.

Ok. If that's final, could I then ask you to have the courage of your
convictions and actually click 'Decline' to the Contributor Terms, please,
rather than leaving it hanging as 'Undecided'?

cheers
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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[80n]

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

> 80n wrote:
> > I think Frederik has managed to decimate more of London than five years
> > of bombing did during WW2 ;)
>
> Well, there's quite an easy way for you and Ed A to fix that, of course. ;)
>

Richard, I already did fix it, just not in the way that you'd like.  Sorry.
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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Richard Fairhurst]

80n wrote:
> I think Frederik has managed to decimate more of London than five years 
> of bombing did during WW2 ;)

Well, there's quite an easy way for you and Ed A to fix that, of course. ;)

cheers
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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Nathan Edgars II]

On 12/12/2011 11:33 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:

This was split from
http://www.openstreetmap.org/__browse/way/8814701/history
 by bemasc.


ahh. So colored falsely as red, revert will undue all later changes but
leave the original way ?


The OSMF will delete 27844130 and (maybe) undelete and revert 8814701 to 
its state just after the import. This will result in, at the least, 
damage such as the lanes tag returning to 4 and the Route 2 relation 
being broken.


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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Bill Ricker]

>
> This was split from http://www.openstreetmap.org/**
>> browse/way/8814701/historyby
>>  bemasc.
>>
>
ahh. So colored falsely as red, revert will undue all later changes but
leave the original way ?


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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Nathan Edgars II]

On 12/12/2011 10:43 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Nathan Edgars II mailto:nerou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

remember reading that balrog-kun's automated edits will be exempted,


I wonder if there are other automated edits and imports from public
copyright that should be exempted but haven't been.

For instance, a Red-tagged way in my area (that NE2 edited later) was
imported by 'bemasc' ('Undecided')
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27844130/history


This was split from 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/8814701/history by bemasc.


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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Bill Ricker]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:

> remember reading that balrog-kun's automated edits will be exempted,


I wonder if there are other automated edits and imports from public
copyright that should be exempted but haven't been.

For instance, a Red-tagged way in my area (that NE2 edited later) was
imported by 'bemasc' ('Undecided')
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27844130/history
with v1 attribution = Office of Geographic and Environmental Information
(MassGIS)
source = massgis_import_v0.1_20071009101959
which to me says it was created from the dataset we have permission to keep.
(Mass would be denuded if we retracted all MASSGIS imports, since that was
preferred source here not Tiger. Ben's was not the id used for most such.
Odd.)

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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Nathan Edgars II]

On 12/12/2011 7:57 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:

On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 13:23 -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:

And it's not pretty:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-81.36373&lat=28.52264&zoom=10


OK, I'm confused...what am I looking at?


Everything red or orange has at least one editor who hasn't agreed to 
the ODBL+CT. These objects will be deleted (if red) or reverted (if 
orange) by the OSMF on April 1, 2012.


(As for the Portland area, I seem to remember reading that balrog-kun's 
automated edits will be exempted, so this rendering has some false 
positives in the orange. It also has some false negatives in the red, 
since the copyright for any way that has been split lies with the 
original creator of the pre-split way.)


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Re: [Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 13:23 -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> And it's not pretty:
> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-81.36373&lat=28.52264&zoom=10

OK, I'm confused...what am I looking at?


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[Talk-us] Now you can see how much vandalism the OSMF will carry out on April Fools

[Nathan Edgars II]

And it's not pretty:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-81.36373&lat=28.52264&zoom=10

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