Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-29 Thread David Fawcett
I have done some editing on the US side of the north shore of Lake Superior.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Andrew Allison
 wrote:
> Hello, ,my US counterparts:
>
>        Originally I have not been editing the US side of the great lakes. But
> with the deadline approaching  I'll do some cross boarder mapping.
>
>        That is unless someone on the US side of the boarder would prefer the
> great lakes and St Lawrence seaway.
>
>        Andrew
>
>        AKA Purple Mustang
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Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-25 Thread Andrew Allison
Hello, ,my US counterparts:

Originally I have not been editing the US side of the great lakes. But
with the deadline approaching  I'll do some cross boarder mapping.

That is unless someone on the US side of the boarder would prefer the
great lakes and St Lawrence seaway.

Andrew

AKA Purple Mustang


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Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Toby Murray
So I got some NHD shapefiles from Phil. Unfortunately coastlines are
hard. The nodes tend to get incorporated into all kinds of other
things like beaches, piers, etc so I can't just do an xapi query and
replace things wholesale like I did with the state boundaries.

So far I have only done a few miles of coastline from the Mexico
border to north of San Diego. The good news is that there are a lot of
the ways have been *heavily* modified by an accepting user since the
original import. So for example in a way with 100 nodes, there were
sometimes 4 or 5 dirty nodes. I just removed these nodes and then
marked the way with the odbl=clean tag since all the original geometry
had been replaced and the tagging is trivial.

In a few sections where most of the nodes were still dirty I did end
up importing the NHD stuff in small bits. I'm not sure how the rest of
California will look. I'm guessing there will be large sections that
will need wholesale replacing. I think there will also be more areas
similar to San Diego with heavy modifications by accepters.

But it is slow going so please feel free to jump in. I am done for now
and probably won't do much more until tomorrow afternoon. So far I got
up to about here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=32.851493&mlon=-117.262337&zoom=12

Toby

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Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Mike N  wrote:
> On 3/24/2012 4:22 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
>>
>>  I poked around
>> looking at some NHD data but didn't see an explicit coastline data
>> set.
>
>
> I believe feature code 44500 (Sea/Ocean) is what OSM would call Coastlines -
> and normally excluded from NHD imports, and contained in the ?area? NHD
> datasets.

OK... I must be doing something wrong. I'm trying to get shapefiles
out of the national map viewer. In the shopping cart it clearly says
"shapefile."  But it keeps sending me a file geodatabase which I can't
read as it requires ArcGIS or custom compiling OGR with the ESRI SDK
linked in. Which... I could probably do but I have too many things on
my plate to mess with that right now.

It would be awesome if someone else could either do the coastlines or
at least help me out by getting some usable coastline data from
somewhere.

Toby

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Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Mike N

On 3/24/2012 4:22 AM, Toby Murray wrote:

  I poked around
looking at some NHD data but didn't see an explicit coastline data
set.


I believe feature code 44500 (Sea/Ocean) is what OSM would call 
Coastlines - and normally excluded from NHD imports, and contained in 
the ?area? NHD datasets.


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Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Paul Norman
> From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 1:22 AM
> To: talk-us
> Subject: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines
> 
> Paul Norman has been looking at coastlines as it relates to the license
> change. Turns out we have a big problem along the west coast.
> Does anyone know what the best usable source for coastline data in the
> US is? Surely there is something better than PGS? I poked around looking
> at some NHD data but didn't see an explicit coastline data set. But
> since I haven't worked with NHD much and, being in a landlocked state,
> haven't touched coastlines at all I'm looking for some input from
> someone with more experience on the subject.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

Pictures of the west coast and the great lakes, the two problem areas

http://maps.paulnorman.ca/coastlines-na-lakes.png
http://maps.paulnorman.ca/coastlines-na-west.png

The east coast and gulf aren't too bad in comparison.

Is adopting changesets an option if blars just uploaded PGS data for the
west coast?



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[Talk-us] Remapping coastlines

2012-03-24 Thread Toby Murray
Paul Norman has been looking at coastlines as it relates to the
license change. Turns out we have a big problem along the west coast.
Does anyone know what the best usable source for coastline data in the
US is? Surely there is something better than PGS? I poked around
looking at some NHD data but didn't see an explicit coastline data
set. But since I haven't worked with NHD much and, being in a
landlocked state, haven't touched coastlines at all I'm looking for
some input from someone with more experience on the subject.

Thoughts?

Toby

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