[Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?
OK, wonder if we can get orange detour banners for routes as well? Example relations can be found in the downtown Tulsa area, which has an interstate (244), two US routes (64, 75) and an Oklahoma state highway (51) detoured through the end of next year. Also, thanks to the serious overload on route multiplexing, exacerbated by the construction, this would be a good area to test route shield hell. I've also finally gotten around to adding relations for the LL Tisdale Parkway ( http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ok/cool_j/) and the Gilcrease Expressway ( http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=OK19720071) to test out city route shields. Also, what would be an appropriate tag for a completely informal name for something that is getting uptake by way of traffic reports? Tulsa's Inner Dispersal Loop has been called the "Inner Detour Loop" by some reporters. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?
Nah, the best place to test route shield hell is in GA. :) hehe. http://elrond.aperiodic.net/shields/?zoom=14&lat=30.85477&lon=-82.01919&layers=B Still, I think detour routes might be a good idea, but only if somebody is willing to keep track of the projects and fix everything once the construction is finished. -James Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:52:00 -0500 From: ba...@ursamundi.org To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames? OK, wonder if we can get orange detour banners for routes as well? Example relations can be found in the downtown Tulsa area, which has an interstate (244), two US routes (64, 75) and an Oklahoma state highway (51) detoured through the end of next year. Also, thanks to the serious overload on route multiplexing, exacerbated by the construction, this would be a good area to test route shield hell. I've also finally gotten around to adding relations for the LL Tisdale Parkway (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ok/cool_j/) and the Gilcrease Expressway (http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=OK19720071) to test out city route shields. Also, what would be an appropriate tag for a completely informal name for something that is getting uptake by way of traffic reports? Tulsa's Inner Dispersal Loop has been called the "Inner Detour Loop" by some reporters. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?
I agree. I've only been handling construction I know I can keep up with myself. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:28 PM, James Mast wrote: > Nah, the best place to test route shield hell is in GA. :) hehe. > > http://elrond.aperiodic.net/shields/?zoom=14&lat=30.85477&lon=-82.01919&layers=B > > Still, I think detour routes might be a good idea, but only if somebody is > willing to keep track of the projects and fix everything once the > construction is finished. > > -James > > -- > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:52:00 -0500 > From: ba...@ursamundi.org > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames? > > > OK, wonder if we can get orange detour banners for routes as well? > Example relations can be found in the downtown Tulsa area, which has an > interstate (244), two US routes (64, 75) and an Oklahoma state highway (51) > detoured through the end of next year. Also, thanks to the serious > overload on route multiplexing, exacerbated by the construction, this would > be a good area to test route shield hell. I've also finally gotten around > to adding relations for the LL Tisdale Parkway ( > http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ok/cool_j/) and the Gilcrease Expressway ( > http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=OK19720071) to test out > city route shields. > > Also, what would be an appropriate tag for a completely informal name for > something that is getting uptake by way of traffic reports? Tulsa's Inner > Dispersal Loop has been called the "Inner Detour Loop" by some reporters. > > ___ Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, James Mast wrote: > > Still, I think detour routes might be a good idea, but only if somebody is > willing to keep track of the projects and fix everything once the > construction is finished. > If the rendering is really really orange and really ugly, it will help drive updates post construction :-). If you just make route relations without rendering, they are easy to forget. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?
It helps that these are actually signposted as black-on-orange "DETOUR" bannered routes. The severely multiplexed and complicated situation this creates causes passengers in my car to giggle when the Garmin announces that you should make a movement following the detour routes, since it'll say things like "Exit left to..." then rattle off all the refs and detour refs, then the highway name. Even with speed limits reduced to 30-45 MPH on the freeway, it still takes just long enough that it's time to announce the next turn as soon as it finishes rattling off one. But it's better than watching folks who don't have OpenStreetMap on their GPS...since it won't be aware that all traffic is being squeezed through on what is normally the westbound 244/southbound 75 span. Their nav trying to reconcile driving the "wrong" way on the freeway is bound to cause navrage with the folks who don't know about OSM on Garmin... On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, James Mast wrote: > >> Still, I think detour routes might be a good idea, but only if somebody >> is willing to keep track of the projects and fix everything once the >> construction is finished. >> > > If the rendering is really really orange and really ugly, it will help > drive updates post construction :-). > If you just make route relations without rendering, they are easy to > forget. > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?
* Paul Johnson [2013-07-13 18:52 -0500]: > OK, wonder if we can get orange detour banners for routes as well? Example > relations can be found in the downtown Tulsa area, which has an interstate > (244), two US routes (64, 75) and an Oklahoma state highway (51) detoured > through the end of next year. I'll see about adding stuff under US:I:Detour, US:US:Detour, and, I guess, US:OK:Detour. > I've also finally gotten around to adding > relations for the LL Tisdale Parkway ( > http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ok/cool_j/) and the Gilcrease Expressway ( > http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=OK19720071) to test out city > route shields. I'll add them to the list of routes needing shields. What network are you using for those? > Also, what would be an appropriate tag for a completely informal name for > something that is getting uptake by way of traffic reports? Tulsa's Inner > Dispersal Loop has been called the "Inner Detour Loop" by some reporters. Based on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names , I'd say loc_name=. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- If the beautiful princess that you capture says, "I'll never marry you! Never, do you hear me, NEVER!!!" say, "Oh well," and kill her. -- Evil Overlord's Handbook, entry 53 --- -- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Phil! Gold wrote: > I'll add them to the list of routes needing shields. What network are > you using for those? > US:OK:Tulsa:Tulsa (going with the US:ST:County:City rule for these city routes). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
