Re: [Talk-us] Tagging Live Indoor Music Venues (continued)
Will, We have a tag for theater. Does that cover music venues (such as Disney Hall, here in LA)? What about nightclubs, such as The Roxy or Troubadour? What about in-between places (in terms of size), such as the Wiltern of the Broad Stage in Santa Monica? Both are used for music, theater and, sometimes, comedy. Then, of course, there is the Improv or the Groundlings in Chicago, which are kind of nightclubs or small theaters for comedy, not music. Maybe we need a more general tag, such as performance venue with some tags to specify the type of performance (theater, music, comedy)? Just a suggestion. Charlotte At 05:54 PM 2/28/2013, you wrote: To those who commented, thank you. I've created a wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dmusic_venuehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dmusic_venue that include the points that most of we were able to agree upon, which is using amenity=music_venue to tag these places. As for using concert_hall, and other more complex tags, we can continue the discussion on there (or here if you want) and as more of these objects are tagged, more tags can be used. regards, will. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady The Four Internet Freedoms Freedom to visit any site on the Internet Freedom to access any content or service that is not illegal Freedom to attach any device that does not interfere with the network Freedom to know all the terms of a service, particularly any that would affect the first three freedoms. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Tagging Live Indoor Music Venues (continued)
To those who commented, thank you. I've created a wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dmusic_venue that include the points that most of we were able to agree upon, which is using amenity=music_venue to tag these places. As for using concert_hall, and other more complex tags, we can continue the discussion on there (or here if you want) and as more of these objects are tagged, more tags can be used. regards, will. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:37 AM, william skora skorasau...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was curious us to hear what others have been using to tag music venues. There's numerous places in my city that hold upwards of 1,000 people for music concerts (also called 'shows'). In the US, they're indoors, serve alcohol, and usually only open when there are shows. There's usually admittance fees to enter. I'm thinking of places like House of Blues (yes, there's restaurants adjacent to some of them, but the one i've been to is separate from the concert venue), (Cleveland places like Beachland Ballroom, the Grog Shop), and more famous places like Bowery Ballroom. It seems like these would fall under amenity=theatre http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Theatre. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues
JaggedMind jagged+...@cow.zotzed.net wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 8:37 AM, william skora skorasau...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was curious us to hear what others have been using to tag music venues. There's numerous places in my city that hold upwards of 1,000 people for music concerts (also called 'shows'). In the US, they're indoors, serve alcohol, and usually only open when there are shows. There's usually admittance fees to enter. I'm thinking of places like House of Blues (yes, there's restaurants adjacent to some of them, but the one i've been to is separate from the concert venue), (Cleveland places like Beachland Ballroom, the Grog Shop), and more famous places like Bowery Ballroom. It seems like these would fall under amenity=theatre http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Theatre. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us The amenity=theatre tag would apply to some venues, but not all. In Nashville, TN, USA, where I live, a lot of restaurants and bars have live music on at least some evenings during the week. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues
Hi, I was curious us to hear what others have been using to tag music venues. There's numerous places in my city that hold upwards of 1,000 people for music concerts (also called 'shows'). In the US, they're indoors, serve alcohol, and usually only open when there are shows. There's usually admittance fees to enter. I'm thinking of places like House of Blues (yes, there's restaurants adjacent to some of them, but the one i've been to is separate from the concert venue), (Cleveland places like Beachland Ballroom, the Grog Shop), and more famous places like Bowery Ballroom. I looked on the wiki, didn't find anything besides a dead proposal - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Music_venue That uses amenity=music_venue and has 56 uses according to taginfo. There's amenity=nightclub http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dnightclub but I don't think would be a great fit, there's not dancing at the concert venues (unless count the occasional mosh pit) that I'm describing. Plus, maybe it's just me, nightclub don't have live performers unless you count DJ's. Here's a related question on it in help - https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/13007/which-tag-should-be-used-for-a-concert-hall amenity=concert_hall has about 67 uses according to taginfo. At first thought, I don't think there's an appropriate documented tag, so I'm inclined to use amenity=concert_hall or amenity=music_venue Your thoughts ? regards, will. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues
On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 11:37 -0500, william skora wrote: Hi, I was curious us to hear what others have been using to tag music venues. There's numerous places in my city that hold upwards of 1,000 people for music concerts (also called 'shows'). In the US, they're indoors, serve alcohol, and usually only open when there are shows. There's usually admittance fees to enter. I'm thinking of places like House of Blues (yes, there's restaurants adjacent to some of them, but the one i've been to is separate from the concert venue), (Cleveland places like Beachland Ballroom, the Grog Shop), and more famous places like Bowery Ballroom. I looked on the wiki, didn't find anything besides a dead proposal - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Music_venue That uses amenity=music_venue and has 56 uses according to taginfo. There's amenity=nightclub http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dnightclub but I don't think would be a great fit, there's not dancing at the concert venues (unless count the occasional mosh pit) that I'm describing. Plus, maybe it's just me, nightclub don't have live performers unless you count DJ's. Here's a related question on it in help - https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/13007/which-tag-should-be-used-for-a-concert-hall amenity=concert_hall has about 67 uses according to taginfo. At first thought, I don't think there's an appropriate documented tag, so I'm inclined to use amenity=concert_hall or amenity=music_venue Your thoughts ? Had not really thought about this one, but I do love going to rock concerts. I did look at my favourite venue, Rock City in Nottingham, but that is tagged as a night club. I don't think it does it justice, it does have a night club downstairs, but that is not the reason people travel from all over the country to go to gigs there. I saw INXS there back in the early 90s. I would support amenity=music_venue, it describes this type of place. In my mind, amenity=concert_hall is different, I would use that for posher places such as The Royal Albert Hall and Carnegie Hall. The tag live_music=yes has been used 9 times, I think that is good for somewhere like a pub that has regular live music, but live music is not its primary use. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM, william skora skorasau...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I was curious us to hear what others have been using to tag music venues. There's numerous places in my city that hold upwards of 1,000 people for music concerts (also called 'shows'). In the US, they're indoors, serve alcohol, and usually only open when there are shows. There's usually admittance fees to enter. I'm thinking of places like House of Blues (yes, there's restaurants adjacent to some of them, but the one i've been to is separate from the concert venue), (Cleveland places like Beachland Ballroom, the Grog Shop), and more famous places like Bowery Ballroom. I looked on the wiki, didn't find anything besides a dead proposal - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Music_venue That uses amenity=music_venue and has 56 uses according to taginfo. leisure=music_venue has 62 uses for what it's worth. I put a music hall on the map a few years ago and ended up perusing the JOSM menus and coming up with amenity=arts_centre, but looking back now it appears that that really doesn't apply. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
