[Talk-us] Update for Great Smoky Mountains National Park

2013-04-25 Thread Thomas Colson
Great Smoky Mountains National Park is planning to update its core base
data. We have identified many inconsistencies in online location-based data
which often results in hazardous navigation scenarios for park visitors
(e.g. travel on a closed trail, wrong way on road, etc.) and plan to slowly
migrate our latest data collection to the public domain. In addition, we are
including many new Points of Interest and other man-made features not
presently included in the park OSM footprint.

 

Initial planning and announcement to the OSM community is here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Great_Smoky_Mountains_National_Park

 

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Re: [Talk-us] Update for Great Smoky Mountains National Park

2013-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote:
 Great Smoky Mountains National Park is planning to update its core base
 data. We have identified many inconsistencies in online location-based data
 which often results in hazardous navigation scenarios for park visitors
 (e.g. travel on a closed trail, wrong way on road, etc…) and plan to slowly
 migrate our latest data collection to the public domain. In addition, we are
 including many new Points of Interest and other man-made features not
 presently included in the park OSM footprint.

I think that this is an awesome project.  It's been a while since I've
been to the park, but I've been daydreaming about a visit to the park
this summer in conjunction with a Linux user conference.  Probably
won't happen due to time  budget constraints but I'm glad to see
these sort of improvements to the map.

One question about what I saw on the wiki page.  I can understand not
wanting the public to drive on administrative roads, but are those
roads closed to hikers as well as vehicular traffic?  I can understand
keeping hikers off of the roads under normal circumstances but if I
was out hiking a trail that crossed an administrative road I'd be
pretty confused if the map on my GPS didn't show it.  I'd find them
useful as navigational references if nothing else.  I would think that
it'd be useful in emergency situations as well.  For example if a
group of hikers was trying to evacuate an injured/sick person an
administrative road could be a quicker way to get to more advanced
medical care.  Or for volunteers conducting a search for lost hikers.

-- 
Jeff Ollie

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Re: [Talk-us] Update for Great Smoky Mountains National Park

2013-04-25 Thread Thomas Colson
A Linux conference in east TN?!!

I am going create a FAQ section in the Project WIKI for all listserv comments 
on this project, in keeping with Public Domain/FOIA status. 



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From: Jeffrey Ollie [mailto:j...@ocjtech.us] 
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Update for Great Smoky Mountains National Park

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote:
 Great Smoky Mountains National Park is planning to update its core 
 base data. We have identified many inconsistencies in online 
 location-based data which often results in hazardous navigation 
 scenarios for park visitors (e.g. travel on a closed trail, wrong way 
 on road, etc…) and plan to slowly migrate our latest data collection 
 to the public domain. In addition, we are including many new Points of 
 Interest and other man-made features not presently included in the park OSM 
 footprint.

I think that this is an awesome project.  It's been a while since I've been to 
the park, but I've been daydreaming about a visit to the park this summer in 
conjunction with a Linux user conference.  Probably won't happen due to time  
budget constraints but I'm glad to see these sort of improvements to the map.

One question about what I saw on the wiki page.  I can understand not wanting 
the public to drive on administrative roads, but are those roads closed to 
hikers as well as vehicular traffic?  I can understand keeping hikers off of 
the roads under normal circumstances but if I was out hiking a trail that 
crossed an administrative road I'd be pretty confused if the map on my GPS 
didn't show it.  I'd find them useful as navigational references if nothing 
else.  I would think that it'd be useful in emergency situations as well.  For 
example if a group of hikers was trying to evacuate an injured/sick person an 
administrative road could be a quicker way to get to more advanced medical 
care.  Or for volunteers conducting a search for lost hikers.

--
Jeff Ollie


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Re: [Talk-us] Update for Great Smoky Mountains National Park

2013-04-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:

 One question about what I saw on the wiki page.  I can understand not
 wanting the public to drive on administrative roads, but are those
 roads closed to hikers as well as vehicular traffic?  I can understand
 keeping hikers off of the roads under normal circumstances but if I
 was out hiking a trail that crossed an administrative road I'd be
 pretty confused if the map on my GPS didn't show it.  I'd find them
 useful as navigational references if nothing else.  I would think that
 it'd be useful in emergency situations as well.  For example if a
 group of hikers was trying to evacuate an injured/sick person an
 administrative road could be a quicker way to get to more advanced
 medical care.  Or for volunteers conducting a search for lost hikers.


I agree. These service road should included. They can be tagged
highway=service, access=official or access=no

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Re: [Talk-us] Update for Great Smoky Mountains National Park

2013-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote:
 A Linux conference in east TN?!!

Nah, in Charleston, SC actually, but since I'd probably be driving
from Iowa the park wouldn't be far out of the way.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock

If I do it, I'd like to make it a two-week trip, with one week for the
conference and one week for sightseeing on my own.

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