Re: [Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors
How about just Don't run bots on data that's not local/you didn't add. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors
On 16 May 2011 06:09, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming system for its avenues. it starts with A Avenue to the south and steps through the alphabet as the avenues appear to the north. a de-abbreviation bot had been run on the area. it should most assuredly _not_ have corrected E Ave to East Avenue, nor should it have corrected N Ave to North Avenue. please be careful with these things, folks. Yes, the bot tried to use direction prefix tag to distinguish between E as a letter and E for East and it turned out to be wrong in the 2006 data way too often. Cheers ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors
On 5/16/11 11:10 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 16 May 2011 06:09, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming system for its avenues. it starts with A Avenue to the south and steps through the alphabet as the avenues appear to the north. a de-abbreviation bot had been run on the area. it should most assuredly _not_ have corrected E Ave to East Avenue, nor should it have corrected N Ave to North Avenue. please be careful with these things, folks. Yes, the bot tried to use direction prefix tag to distinguish between E as a letter and E for East and it turned out to be wrong in the 2006 data way too often. i'm not sure i'm following this. there are no prefix tags that i can see on the ways in question: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/16034490 there is a tiger:basename tag of N, and if the name_type and alleged directional prefix are removed, there is no residual name for the avenue. this seems like a gross oversight in bot design. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors
On 16 May 2011 17:56, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 5/16/11 11:10 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 16 May 2011 06:09, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming system for its avenues. it starts with A Avenue to the south and steps through the alphabet as the avenues appear to the north. a de-abbreviation bot had been run on the area. it should most assuredly _not_ have corrected E Ave to East Avenue, nor should it have corrected N Ave to North Avenue. please be careful with these things, folks. Yes, the bot tried to use direction prefix tag to distinguish between E as a letter and E for East and it turned out to be wrong in the 2006 data way too often. i'm not sure i'm following this. there are no prefix tags that i can see on the ways in question: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/16034490 Ironically this one looks like a manual edit (or at least it doesn't have a bot=yes tag on the changeset and it's more localised than bot edits tend to be), and it's in Iowa where the automated expansion has not been run. So this particular one is a counter example to the don't run bots, leave it to be done manually rule :) I also think that large imports are a special case because the tagging is already a result of automated processing by the import script, and if you want to fix it you can't really count on users having a sense of onwership / maintainership of the whole area. Cheers ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors
On 5/16/11 1:16 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 16 May 2011 17:56, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 5/16/11 11:10 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 16 May 2011 06:09, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.netwrote: i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming system for its avenues. it starts with A Avenue to the south and steps through the alphabet as the avenues appear to the north. a de-abbreviation bot had been run on the area. it should most assuredly _not_ have corrected E Ave to East Avenue, nor should it have corrected N Ave to North Avenue. please be careful with these things, folks. Yes, the bot tried to use direction prefix tag to distinguish between E as a letter and E for East and it turned out to be wrong in the 2006 data way too often. i'm not sure i'm following this. there are no prefix tags that i can see on the ways in question: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/16034490 Ironically this one looks like a manual edit (or at least it doesn't have a bot=yes tag on the changeset and it's more localised than bot edits tend to be), and it's in Iowa where the automated expansion has not been run. some automated expansion has been run here. the changeset comment for version 2 is Expanding street names in Story County, IA i seriously doubt anyone manually expanded an entire county with 1625 ways in the bounding box. likely someone's own bot, someone who was unaware of the bot=yes tag, perhaps. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors
i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming system for its avenues. it starts with A Avenue to the south and steps through the alphabet as the avenues appear to the north. a de-abbreviation bot had been run on the area. it should most assuredly _not_ have corrected E Ave to East Avenue, nor should it have corrected N Ave to North Avenue. please be careful with these things, folks. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
