Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Simon Poole]

Am 14.04.2015 um 20:42 schrieb John F. Eldredge:
> If all you are doing on the spot is recording the house number, then
> what is the advantage to using Vespucci instead of a simpler tool?

No further processing step, upload and you are finished.

Other stuff, POIs and so one will tend to take longer since you
typically will want to at least type in a name, however that is likely
to be an universal issue. The alternative: taking a geo-referenced
photograph (after many 1000's of voice notes I've given up on them)
tends to not be very inconspicuous either.



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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[John F. Eldredge]

If all you are doing on the spot is recording the house number, then what is 
the advantage to using Vespucci instead of a simpler tool?


On April 14, 2015 5:48:09 AM CDT, Simon Poole  wrote:
> 
> Long press. press, press ... typically less than 5 seconds (depending
> on
> the situation I might not even stop walking).
> 
> Simon
> 
> Am 14.04.2015 um 01:32 schrieb John F. Eldredge:
> > That depends, in part, on how long you want to stand there pecking
> away
> > at your device, and how suspicious folks are likely to become if you
> > stand in front of each building for up to several minutes before
> moving on.
> > 
> > 
> > On April 13, 2015 4:02:24 AM CDT, Simon Poole 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device,
> you may
> > as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But
> hten
> > I'm biased.
> > 
> > Simon
> > 
> > Am 12.04.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Morgan:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems
>  > > wrote:
> > 
> > In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper
> has
> > worked pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense
> (worst
> > case: Montreal, where each apartment in a duplex or triplex
> will
> > have it's own house number) it starts getting tricky
> assigning the
> > number to the correct building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery
> can
> > definitely be useful for address data.
> > 
> > 
> > Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as
> conspicuous
> > when using
> > pen and paper. I've tried using ranges were I drop the
> leading two
> > digits while entering five digit numbers. There's a bunch of
> post
> > processing when you actually enter the data. With any
> technique
> > that I
> > use, I always feel like Billy in the family circus. It is
> > amazing where
> > people put addresses. Commercial buildings can be the worst
> case
> > to try
> > and find the number.
> > 
> > http://familycircus.com/comics/april-5-2015/
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[John F. Eldredge]

If all you are doing on the spot is recording the house number

On April 14, 2015 5:48:09 AM CDT, Simon Poole  wrote:
> 
> Long press. press, press ... typically less than 5 seconds (depending
> on
> the situation I might not even stop walking).
> 
> Simon
> 
> Am 14.04.2015 um 01:32 schrieb John F. Eldredge:
> > That depends, in part, on how long you want to stand there pecking
> away
> > at your device, and how suspicious folks are likely to become if you
> > stand in front of each building for up to several minutes before
> moving on.
> > 
> > 
> > On April 13, 2015 4:02:24 AM CDT, Simon Poole 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device,
> you may
> > as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But
> hten
> > I'm biased.
> > 
> > Simon
> > 
> > Am 12.04.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Morgan:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems
>  > > wrote:
> > 
> > In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper
> has
> > worked pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense
> (worst
> > case: Montreal, where each apartment in a duplex or triplex
> will
> > have it's own house number) it starts getting tricky
> assigning the
> > number to the correct building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery
> can
> > definitely be useful for address data.
> > 
> > 
> > Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as
> conspicuous
> > when using
> > pen and paper. I've tried using ranges were I drop the
> leading two
> > digits while entering five digit numbers. There's a bunch of
> post
> > processing when you actually enter the data. With any
> technique
> > that I
> > use, I always feel like Billy in the family circus. It is
> > amazing where
> > people put addresses. Commercial buildings can be the worst
> case
> > to try
> > and find the number.
> > 
> > http://familycircus.com/comics/april-5-2015/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Simon Poole]

Long press. press, press ... typically less than 5 seconds (depending on
the situation I might not even stop walking).

Simon

Am 14.04.2015 um 01:32 schrieb John F. Eldredge:
> That depends, in part, on how long you want to stand there pecking away
> at your device, and how suspicious folks are likely to become if you
> stand in front of each building for up to several minutes before moving on.
> 
> 
> On April 13, 2015 4:02:24 AM CDT, Simon Poole  wrote:
> 
> 
> IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you may
> as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But hten
> I'm biased.
> 
> Simon
> 
> Am 12.04.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Morgan:
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems  > wrote:
> 
> In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has
> worked pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense (worst
> case: Montreal, where each apartment in a duplex or triplex will
> have it's own house number) it starts getting tricky assigning the
> number to the correct building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery can
> definitely be useful for address data.
> 
> 
> Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as conspicuous
> when using
> pen and paper. I've tried using ranges were I drop the leading two
> digits while entering five digit numbers. There's a bunch of post
> processing when you actually enter the data. With any technique
> that I
> use, I always feel like Billy in the family circus. It is
> amazing where
> people put addresses. Commercial buildings can be the worst case
> to try
> and find the number.
> 
> http://familycircus.com/comics/april-5-2015/
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Jack Burke]

+1


On April 13, 2015 7:32:36 PM EDT, "John F. Eldredge"  
wrote:
>That depends, in part, on how long you want to stand there pecking away
>at your device, and how suspicious folks are likely to become if you
>stand in front of each building for up to several minutes before moving
>on.
>
>
>On April 13, 2015 4:02:24 AM CDT, Simon Poole  wrote:
>> 
>> IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you
>may
>> as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But hten
>> I'm biased.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> Am 12.04.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Morgan:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems > > > wrote:
>> > 
>> > In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has
>> > worked pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense
>> (worst
>> > case: Montreal, where each apartment in a duplex or triplex
>will
>> > have it's own house number) it starts getting tricky assigning
>> the
>> > number to the correct building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery can
>> > definitely be useful for address data.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as conspicuous when
>> using
>> > pen and paper.  I've tried using ranges were I drop the leading two
>> > digits while entering five digit numbers.  There's a bunch of post
>> > processing when you actually enter the data.  With any technique
>> that I
>> > use, I always feel like Billy in the family circus.  It is amazing
>> where
>> > people put addresses.  Commercial buildings can be the worst case
>to
>> try
>> > and find the number.
>> > 
>> > http://familycircus.com/comics/april-5-2015/
>> >  
>> > 
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[John F. Eldredge]

That depends, in part, on how long you want to stand there pecking away at your 
device, and how suspicious folks are likely to become if you stand in front of 
each building for up to several minutes before moving on.


On April 13, 2015 4:02:24 AM CDT, Simon Poole  wrote:
> 
> IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you may
> as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But hten
> I'm biased.
> 
> Simon
> 
> Am 12.04.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Morgan:
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems  > > wrote:
> > 
> > In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has
> > worked pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense
> (worst
> > case: Montreal, where each apartment in a duplex or triplex will
> > have it's own house number) it starts getting tricky assigning
> the
> > number to the correct building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery can
> > definitely be useful for address data.
> > 
> > 
> > Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as conspicuous when
> using
> > pen and paper.  I've tried using ranges were I drop the leading two
> > digits while entering five digit numbers.  There's a bunch of post
> > processing when you actually enter the data.  With any technique
> that I
> > use, I always feel like Billy in the family circus.  It is amazing
> where
> > people put addresses.  Commercial buildings can be the worst case to
> try
> > and find the number.
> > 
> > http://familycircus.com/comics/april-5-2015/
> >  
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[John F. Eldredge]

Commercial buildings are particularly difficult here in Nashville, TN, because 
about 80% of commercial buildings have no street address posted on the outside. 
Apparently, they aren't required to do so.


On April 12, 2015 11:50:21 AM CDT, Greg Morgan  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems 
> wrote:
> 
> > In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has
> worked
> > pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense (worst case:
> Montreal,
> > where each apartment in a duplex or triplex will have it's own house
> > number) it starts getting tricky assigning the number to the correct
> > building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery can definitely be useful for
> address
> > data.
> >
> 
> Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as conspicuous when
> using
> pen and paper.  I've tried using ranges were I drop the leading two
> digits
> while entering five digit numbers.  There's a bunch of post processing
> when
> you actually enter the data.  With any technique that I use, I always
> feel
> like Billy in the family circus.  It is amazing where people put
> addresses.  Commercial buildings can be the worst case to try and find
> the
> number.
> 
> http://familycircus.com/comics/april-5-2015/
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

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Am 13.04.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Tod Fitch:
> My few trial uses of Vespucci lead me to believe that I need an data 
> connection while using it. Am I wrong?
Given that it is a full editor you need connectivity in some form to
initially get the data and then to upload your edits. However this can
be at home, there is nothing that requires connectivity while you are on
the road, you could even conceivable store multiple files on device and
switch between them . Tiles are cached on device so in principle you can
even have imagery on device without connectivity.

Naturally anything that requires  connectivity wont work, auto-download,
nominatim search, etc.

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[Tod Fitch]

My few trial uses of Vespucci lead me to believe that I need an data connection 
while using it. Am I wrong?

With OsmPad, KeyPad or OSMtracker I can collect data while off line which is 
very important to me.

Cheers,
Tod

> On Apr 13, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Simon Poole  wrote:
> 
> 
> IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you may
> as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But hten
> I'm biased.
> 
> Simon
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Simon Poole]

IMHO if you are actually entering stuff in to a mobile device, you may
as well use vespucci and just do it properly the first time. But hten
I'm biased.

Simon

Am 12.04.2015 um 18:50 schrieb Greg Morgan:
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems  > wrote:
> 
> In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has
> worked pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense (worst
> case: Montreal, where each apartment in a duplex or triplex will
> have it's own house number) it starts getting tricky assigning the
> number to the correct building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery can
> definitely be useful for address data.
> 
> 
> Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as conspicuous when using
> pen and paper.  I've tried using ranges were I drop the leading two
> digits while entering five digit numbers.  There's a bunch of post
> processing when you actually enter the data.  With any technique that I
> use, I always feel like Billy in the family circus.  It is amazing where
> people put addresses.  Commercial buildings can be the worst case to try
> and find the number.
> 
> http://familycircus.com/comics/april-5-2015/
>  
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On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems  wrote:

> In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has worked
> pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense (worst case: Montreal,
> where each apartment in a duplex or triplex will have it's own house
> number) it starts getting tricky assigning the number to the correct
> building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery can definitely be useful for address
> data.
>

Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as conspicuous when using
pen and paper.  I've tried using ranges were I drop the leading two digits
while entering five digit numbers.  There's a bunch of post processing when
you actually enter the data.  With any technique that I use, I always feel
like Billy in the family circus.  It is amazing where people put
addresses.  Commercial buildings can be the worst case to try and find the
number.

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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Harald Kliems]

In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has worked
pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense (worst case: Montreal,
where each apartment in a duplex or triplex will have it's own house
number) it starts getting tricky assigning the number to the correct
building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery can definitely be useful for address
data.

 Harald.

On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 5:37 PM Tod Fitch  wrote:

> As to the first: Yes, definitely a great job of mapping address house
> numbers!
>
> As to gathering numbers: I’ve gone through several iterations on
> collecting data. At first I was using a walking papers style method
> complete with people asking me what I was doing and, in one case, calling
> the police. That was too much attention for my liking.
>
> My next iteration was to use OSMtracker with a set of ear buds with
> microphone and simply gathering a voice sample as I walked by a house. This
> actually worked pretty well. I was inconspicuous as people are used to
> phone users talking to themselves. I had two problems with it however:
> First there was sometimes ambient noise that made it difficult to hear the
> number when played back. Second, and far worse, it took longer to enter all
> the data than it took to collect. I’d take a two hour walk in the morning
> and spend the rest of the day entering data. Okay to do occasionally but
> not something to make a career of.
>
> My current method is to use OSMpad and type in the numbers as I walk by.
> Data collection is a little slower and more conspicuous than using
> OSMtracker with a microphone but so far it is inconspicuous enough that I
> don’t attract attention. After all, many people wander the streets
> oblivious to their surroundings while texting. A mapper appearing to do the
> same thing is not remarkable. The big advantage over voice recordings is
> that in JOSM it only takes a couple of minutes to align the address points
> with the satellite imagery, verify street names, add city and upload.
>
> Regarding doing address collection in a car, or for that matter on a
> bicycle, I don’t think it is really feasible to get each number that way
> unless you are driving at walking speed. Think how long it actually takes
> to 1. Press a record button, 2. Wait a second to assure it is recording, 3.
> speak the number or street name. If you are driving at 25 MPH that is 37
> feet/second. In my neighborhood you need to be consistently entering a new
> address every second to second and a half. Try clearly enunciating a 2, 3,
> 4 or even 5 digit house number in 1.5 seconds. Now try doing that
> consistently for hundreds of houses. If you are only interested in house
> number ranges, then collection in a moving vehicle could be feasible. But I
> don’t consider it feasible to get individual numbers for all houses along a
> street that way: Too much typing or speaking in too little time. A solution
> to that would be to be automatically taking geotagged photographs
> continuously the same as the survey vehicles that Google and other employ.
> I suppose the price of that type of thing will drop but for now if you are
> just mapping with a handheld GPS or smart phone walking is the best way I
> know to collect house numbers.
>
> Cheers,
> Tod
>
> On Apr 11, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Nick Hocking  wrote:
>
> Excellent job Steve,
>
>
> I believe that house addresses is the only thing missing from OSM that is
> stopping it from becoming the mainstream mapping data of choice!
> I’ve always been interested in how to collect addresses, which can be a
> time consuming and difficult task. Walking around a neighborhood with paper
> and pencil peering into people’s letter boxes and at their front doors may
> upset some people, so I’ve though up a (possibly) better way.
>
>
> Two people, in a car. Two GPS units, probably both smartphones, one
> recording the track log and the other recording the passengers voice.
>
> As you drive down the road, the passenger calls out something like…..
>
> 12 left 15right 14 left  16 right….. turning left on main street, 67 left
> etc, etc..
> Then later in an editor you can match times from the two sources and
> compare against Bing imagery to correctly place the house numbers.
>
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As to the first: Yes, definitely a great job of mapping address house numbers!

As to gathering numbers: I’ve gone through several iterations on collecting 
data. At first I was using a walking papers style method complete with people 
asking me what I was doing and, in one case, calling the police. That was too 
much attention for my liking.

My next iteration was to use OSMtracker with a set of ear buds with microphone 
and simply gathering a voice sample as I walked by a house. This actually 
worked pretty well. I was inconspicuous as people are used to phone users 
talking to themselves. I had two problems with it however: First there was 
sometimes ambient noise that made it difficult to hear the number when played 
back. Second, and far worse, it took longer to enter all the data than it took 
to collect. I’d take a two hour walk in the morning and spend the rest of the 
day entering data. Okay to do occasionally but not something to make a career 
of.

My current method is to use OSMpad and type in the numbers as I walk by. Data 
collection is a little slower and more conspicuous than using OSMtracker with a 
microphone but so far it is inconspicuous enough that I don’t attract 
attention. After all, many people wander the streets oblivious to their 
surroundings while texting. A mapper appearing to do the same thing is not 
remarkable. The big advantage over voice recordings is that in JOSM it only 
takes a couple of minutes to align the address points with the satellite 
imagery, verify street names, add city and upload.

Regarding doing address collection in a car, or for that matter on a bicycle, I 
don’t think it is really feasible to get each number that way unless you are 
driving at walking speed. Think how long it actually takes to 1. Press a record 
button, 2. Wait a second to assure it is recording, 3. speak the number or 
street name. If you are driving at 25 MPH that is 37 feet/second. In my 
neighborhood you need to be consistently entering a new address every second to 
second and a half. Try clearly enunciating a 2, 3, 4 or even 5 digit house 
number in 1.5 seconds. Now try doing that consistently for hundreds of houses. 
If you are only interested in house number ranges, then collection in a moving 
vehicle could be feasible. But I don’t consider it feasible to get individual 
numbers for all houses along a street that way: Too much typing or speaking in 
too little time. A solution to that would be to be automatically taking 
geotagged photographs continuously the same as the survey vehicles that Google 
and other employ. I suppose the price of that type of thing will drop but for 
now if you are just mapping with a handheld GPS or smart phone walking is the 
best way I know to collect house numbers.

Cheers,
Tod

> On Apr 11, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Nick Hocking  wrote:
> 
> Excellent job Steve,
> 
>  
> I believe that house addresses is the only thing missing from OSM that is 
> stopping it from becoming the mainstream mapping data of choice!
> 
> I’ve always been interested in how to collect addresses, which can be a time 
> consuming and difficult task. Walking around a neighborhood with paper and 
> pencil peering into people’s letter boxes and at their front doors may upset 
> some people, so I’ve though up a (possibly) better way.
>  
> Two people, in a car. Two GPS units, probably both smartphones, one recording 
> the track log and the other recording the passengers voice.
> 
> As you drive down the road, the passenger calls out something like…..
> 
> 12 left 15right 14 left  16 right….. turning left on main street, 67 left 
> etc, etc..
> 
> Then later in an editor you can match times from the two sources and compare 
> against Bing imagery to correctly place the house numbers.
> 
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Nick Hocking]

Excellent job Steve,



I believe that house addresses is the only thing missing from OSM that is
stopping it from becoming the mainstream mapping data of choice!
I’ve always been interested in how to collect addresses, which can be a
time consuming and difficult task. Walking around a neighborhood with paper
and pencil peering into people’s letter boxes and at their front doors may
upset some people, so I’ve though up a (possibly) better way.



Two people, in a car. Two GPS units, probably both smartphones, one
recording the track log and the other recording the passengers voice.

As you drive down the road, the passenger calls out something like…..

12 left 15right 14 left  16 right….. turning left on main street, 67 left
etc, etc..
Then later in an editor you can match times from the two sources and
compare against Bing imagery to correctly place the house numbers.

Cheers
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Hans De Kryger]

It looks awesome steve great job, i love seeing addresses added to osm as
well.​

*Regards,*

*Hans*


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On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Am 11.04.2015 um 16:47 schrieb Steve Friedl :
>
> but this presentation with numbers scattered all over just doesn’t look
> right, so maybe I’m doing something wrong.
>
>
>
>
> don't worry, the current rendering of house numbers is more aiming at the
> mappers (to give an idea of completeness) rather than to look pretty for a
> general map consumer...
>
> cheers
> Martin
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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

> Am 11.04.2015 um 16:47 schrieb Steve Friedl :
> 
> but this presentation with numbers scattered all over just doesn’t look 
> right, so maybe I’m doing something wrong.
> 
>  
> 

don't worry, the current rendering of house numbers is more aiming at the 
mappers (to give an idea of completeness) rather than to look pretty for a 
general map consumer...

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Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

[Clifford Snow]

On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Steve Friedl  wrote:

> I’ve been adding individualized house numbers to many houses in my
> neighborhood, and I’m just not sure this is how I’m supposed to do it
> because it just looks funky on the map.
>
>
>
> One area with 1 or 2-digit house numbers:
>
>
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/33.68743/-117.66593&layers=N
>
>
>
> Another area with 5-digit house numbers:
>
>
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/33.65699/-117.65517&layers=N
>
>
>
> Having the detailed address information in the database has to be useful,
> but this presentation with numbers scattered all over just doesn’t look
> right, so maybe I’m doing something wrong.
>
>
>
> Is this the way it’s supposed to be done?
>

I love seeing addresses being added. Thanks!!!

The house numbers look correct, although it isn't often you see single
digit house numbers. Adding addr:city and addr:postcode would be nice as
well. In JOSM you can select all of the houses to add addr:city and
addr:postcode at one time.

Rendering of house numbers is not pretty but it is what it is. Ideally they
either wouldn't be rendered or only at max zoom level.

Clifford

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