Re: [Talk-us] talk-us-ma: Duplicate nodes in mass

2009-08-20 Thread Lars Ahlzen
Bill Ricker wrote:
 I thought Chris had the beginings of a script that would do this.
 
 It is possible that  if Lars, Shankar and I spent some tuits looking at
 Frederik's script we could mutate it to do this.  It would be a nice
 example for the Boston.PM presentation next month. I think he said it
 was uploaded to a git host or somewhere?

I'd love to help out with that. I have many commitments and not a lot of
time during the next month or two, though, so I can't promise much
before the Boston PM talk.

- Lars

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Re: [Talk-us] talk-us-ma: Duplicate nodes in mass

2009-08-19 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
welcome in the world of osm cleanup ;-)

there are so many errors in osm data for routing and some are very difficult
to find.
most people don't care as long as the maps is rendered nice. and without
tools it's hard to make mappers aware of them.
America doesn't have an instance of keepright either which can find many
problematic data
Also one guy wrote some scripts for checking see the recent message to talk
below
Didn't find the time yet to check these scripts and procedures a user posted
recently. . I know he has written many scripts to find duplicates and other
problems.


Hi,

I provide some error reports for OSM and wanted the errors to be corrected.
Of course I could handle some of them on my own. But since there were 10s of
thouands I surely wouldn't be able to inspect and correct them all.

So I thought why not set up a joint action of some sort? And so I did - not
knowing whether I would get help or not. But amazingly we had so many
volunteers who picked working packages that in a few days hundreds of erros
could be corrected. And since the edits were supposedly made with JOSM using
the validator plugin many other errors (beside the initially listed ones)
were corrected as well.

In the first action 1000 errors were closed in 5 days. The third action
(1000 dupe ways) I suppose will make it in under 24h! That's crazy!!!

So far we handled unconnected residentials in Bayern/Germany and dupe ways
also in Germany. For details please have a look at

- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Aktionen
- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aktion_01
- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Aktionen/Aktion_03

Of course the pages are in German but look at the work tables and maybe the
error lists.

Maybe others could set up actions like these for other countries? I assure
you to provide reports if needed and I am quite confident that a lot of our
helpers would support these actions from here - if we get to know about the
actions...

Cheers

Gerhard
gary68
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Gary68



On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:


 I have been trying to make routable garmin maps with mkgmap, and more or
 less succeeding.  In Mass I have maps that look good but computing
 routes over any significant distance totally fails, as in you get a
 route apparently from a basemap.  I was recently driving to a place
 within Stow from Cambridge (many towns away), and getting basemap
 routes.  I did a recalculate just after passing the Maynard/Stow border
 and got a correct route.  People on thee mkgmap list had pointed out
 problems on 128 with ways not being connected.

 I looked at the area in question, and found that there are two ways for
 the main road, one in each town (at least near the border).  They each
 end at a different node with the same coordinates.  I have just merged
 those nodes, and some others, but there appear to be massive numbers of
 duplicate nodes.

 I'll see after this update makes its way into my garmin maps if that
 makes routing work, and try a routing plugin in josm.  But I think we
 need some sort of find duplicate nodes, and if they match properties,
 or just have different massgis import dates, merge them bot.  This is
 beyond my clue level presently.

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Re: [Talk-us] talk-us-ma: Duplicate nodes in mass

2009-08-19 Thread Bill Ricker
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

  But I think we
  need some sort of find duplicate nodes, and if they match


that was I believe the intention.


  properties,
  or just have different massgis import dates, merge them bot.


or even same date but different time stamp.  This duplication is intrinsic
to the MassGIS format that was imported - each town was a separate dataset.

There are roughly 7.1 million nodes in Massachussetts, and 270k of them
 share the same location as another node. This is just an analysis based
 on location, not on tags, but it can be assumed that most of those 270k
 nodes are not intentionally duplicate.


they are intentionally duplicate in massGIS and uslessly duplicate in OSM
afaik from what Chris has said of the import.


 It is possible that there are
 duplicate ways as well.


not afaik. the vast majority are town border exact matches and probably some
at on ramps.


  This is   beyond my clue level presently.



 But it is not a big problem, it is something
 that could be fixed in a day.


I thought Chris had the beginings of a script that would do this.

It is possible that  if Lars, Shankar and I spent some tuits looking at
Frederik's script we could mutate it to do this.  It would be a nice example
for the Boston.PM presentation next month. I think he said it was uploaded
to a git host or somewhere?


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