Hi

1. What's happening with the Gauteng e-tolls? Is somebody going to add
them to OSM?

2. Is the location of speed traps meant to be secret? Are we allowed
to publish where they are in OSM?

3. How to tag gated suburbs?

Is this right:
"barrier=gate" and "access=no" for blocked off roads
"barrier=lift_gate" (ie. boom) and "access=yes" for entrances

4. How to tag residential estates?

The problems at the moment:
* "highway=living_street" seems very wrong. That is an official road
designation in some countries. I don't think we have them in SA. It
should probably be "highway=residential".
* "access=yes" for gates to residential estates. Very wrong: "yes"
means that "the public has an official, legally-enshrined right of
access." This is the case for gated suburbs, but residential estates
are on private property and this is definitely not the case.
* "access=destination" for gates and streets. Deceptive tag. Yes the
streets inside an estate with multiple entrances can't be used for
transit traffic, but it's more than that: you can't even go to a
street as a destination without the owner's permission. The example
they give for "access=destination" is customer parking lots.
* internal roads are traced from aerial photography with
"highway=residential" but with no access classification and no name.
This appears as a public road with no name, which is not the case.

Proposal:
* If the estate is entered through a driveway (as opposed to a public
road), then it's a nameless "highway=service", "service=driveway".
* The entrance is "barrier=gate" for a gate, "barrier=lift_gate" for a
boom, with "access=private" either way.
* Every internal street and point of interest has "access=private".
* Internal streets are usually "highway=residential", and might not
have names, because unit numbers are often relative to the estate, not
the street.
* The estate's land area has "landuse=residential", "name=<The name of
the estate>".

This is also how it's been done in other countries, see explanation
and example below:
http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/4737/best-practices-for-applying-accessprivate
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.74281&lon=-117.76746&zoom=16&layers=M

What do you think? Can I add this to the local tagging guidelines?

Thank you
Damjan

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