Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] House numbers in Pretoria and Johannesburg ETA 2012

2011-01-27 Thread Nic Roets
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
 On 25 January 2011 16:23, Anton Damhuis antondamh...@cybersmart.co.za wrote:

 What phone at Game are you referring to?
 I have been looking at getting a new phone with GPS, and R1000.00 seems
 reasonable to pay.


 Likely the Vodafone VF845.

 Tech Specs:
 * Processor: Qualcomm 528MHz
 * OS: Android OS, v2.1
 * Screen: TFT touchscreen, 65K colors, 240 x 320 pixels, 2.8 inches,
 Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate UI
 * Application: SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM
 * Connection: GPRS Class 10 (4 +1 / 3 +2 slots), 32-48 kbps, EDGE
 Class 10, 236.8 kbps, HSDPA 3.6 Mbps, Wi-Fi 802.11 b / g, Bluetooth
 v2.0 with A2DPUSB v2.0 / Model: Full TouchScreen Candybar
 * Internal Memory: 512MB ROM / 256MB RAM
 * External Memory: microSD (Max up to 16GB)
 * Camera: 3:15 MP, 2048×1536 Banner, autofocus, video Support
 * Network: HSDPA 7.2Mbps (3.5G) / WCDMA 900/2100MHz / GSM Triband
 900/1800/1900MHz
 * Battery: Li-Ion 1200 mAh
 * Color Options: Black
 * Browser: HTML, JAVA MIDP 2.0
 * Dimension: 100 x 56 x 14mm
 * Weight: 110g
 * Talk Time: up to 270 mins
 * Standby Time: up to 270 hours

Good news ! This phone actually includes a GPS receiver !
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nic%20Roets/traces/912278

And it's running on MTN without rooting it. (I discovered that you can
press 'Menu' in the APN list and add the right one).

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Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] House numbers in Pretoria and Johannesburg ETA 2012

2011-01-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 January 2011 16:23, Anton Damhuis antondamh...@cybersmart.co.za wrote:

 What phone at Game are you referring to?
 I have been looking at getting a new phone with GPS, and R1000.00 seems
 reasonable to pay.


Likely the Vodafone VF845.

Tech Specs:
* Processor: Qualcomm 528MHz
* OS: Android OS, v2.1
* Screen: TFT touchscreen, 65K colors, 240 x 320 pixels, 2.8 inches,
Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate UI
* Application: SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM
* Connection: GPRS Class 10 (4 +1 / 3 +2 slots), 32-48 kbps, EDGE
Class 10, 236.8 kbps, HSDPA 3.6 Mbps, Wi-Fi 802.11 b / g, Bluetooth
v2.0 with A2DPUSB v2.0 / Model: Full TouchScreen Candybar
* Internal Memory: 512MB ROM / 256MB RAM
* External Memory: microSD (Max up to 16GB)
* Camera: 3:15 MP, 2048×1536 Banner, autofocus, video Support
* Network: HSDPA 7.2Mbps (3.5G) / WCDMA 900/2100MHz / GSM Triband
900/1800/1900MHz
* Battery: Li-Ion 1200 mAh
* Color Options: Black
* Browser: HTML, JAVA MIDP 2.0
* Dimension: 100 x 56 x 14mm
* Weight: 110g
* Talk Time: up to 270 mins
* Standby Time: up to 270 hours

Details ripped from here: http://www.androidza.co.za/

/ Grant

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Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] House numbers in Pretoria and Johannesburg ETA 2012

2011-01-25 Thread Nic Roets
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
 On 25 January 2011 16:23, Anton Damhuis antondamh...@cybersmart.co.za wrote:

 What phone at Game are you referring to?
 I have been looking at getting a new phone with GPS, and R1000.00 seems
 reasonable to pay.


 Likely the Vodafone VF845.

That's right. When Game did not have stock I bought it for a few
hundred rand extra from Cellucity. And I'm very pleased. It has a
solid feel to it. You would think that they would cut corners with
e.g. inaccurate sensors, but they didn't. The only problem I found is
that it will not make data connections over MTN (and CellC ?),
presumably because the APN has been hard coded. I also think people
used to capacitive touchscreen and/or full keyboard will be
disappointed, but that's not me.

 Tech Specs:
 * Processor: Qualcomm 528MHz
 * OS: Android OS, v2.1
 * Screen: TFT touchscreen, 65K colors, 240 x 320 pixels, 2.8 inches,
 Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate UI
 * Application: SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM
 * Connection: GPRS Class 10 (4 +1 / 3 +2 slots), 32-48 kbps, EDGE
 Class 10, 236.8 kbps, HSDPA 3.6 Mbps, Wi-Fi 802.11 b / g, Bluetooth
 v2.0 with A2DPUSB v2.0 / Model: Full TouchScreen Candybar
 * Internal Memory: 512MB ROM / 256MB RAM
 * External Memory: microSD (Max up to 16GB)
 * Camera: 3:15 MP, 2048×1536 Banner, autofocus, video Support
 * Network: HSDPA 7.2Mbps (3.5G) / WCDMA 900/2100MHz / GSM Triband
 900/1800/1900MHz
 * Battery: Li-Ion 1200 mAh
 * Color Options: Black
 * Browser: HTML, JAVA MIDP 2.0
 * Dimension: 100 x 56 x 14mm
 * Weight: 110g
 * Talk Time: up to 270 mins
 * Standby Time: up to 270 hours

 Details ripped from here: http://www.androidza.co.za/

 / Grant

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Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] House numbers in Pretoria and Johannesburg ETA 2012 - 2014

2011-01-24 Thread David Richfield
 I know that interpolation can be out by tens of meters, due to varying
 plot sizes. Even worse is that I intend to use even interpolation for
 suburbs where the increment is 4 (for example, Nominatim thinks that
 328 Edna,Pretoria exists, while it doesn't). But collecting these
 details will make the projectsmuch too large.

To add to this point: even if the interpolation is two houses out,
it's still good to have addresses.  If my GPS takes me to 23 Long
Street instead of 29 Long Street, that's not so bad.  If my GPS
doesn't know which side or which end of the street to go to, that's
less impressive.

-- 
David Richfield
e^(πi)+1=0

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Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] House numbers in Pretoria and Johannesburg ETA 2012 - 2014

2011-01-23 Thread Philip Kloppers

On 2011/01/23 07:10 PM, Nic Roets wrote:

Hello All,

I started large scale collection of house numbers. I'll start with
Eastern Pretoria and then expand South West until I reach Randburg. I
hope to add on average 150,000 houses per year with an accuracy /
completeness of over 50%. It is possible due to 2 pieces of
technology:

The first is a little mobile app that allows me to enter house numbers
while cycling. A typical 2 digit house number takes only 3 key
strokes.
http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1385/what-is-the-best-mobile-application-for-large-scale-house-number-collection

But it's still not fast enough to collect every house number when
cycling at 20km/h. So I will need to create interpolation ways. The
fastest way of doing this will be with the help of an editor plugin
that is yet to be written:
1. You select 2 house number nodes that are on the same side of the
same road and activate the tool.
2. The tool generates a way that runs parallel to the road and
connects the nodes.
3. The tool sets the addr:interpolation tag to odd or even so that it
matches the selected house numbers.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-25.77606lon=28.28914zoom=17layers=M

Any volunteers to write this plugin ?

--
Game now has an Android phone on special for R999. In all likelihood,
they are sold out, but if you are able get one, it offers a cheap
entry point into the coming wave of mobile OSM and open source
projects.

Regards,
Nic

   

Hi Nic,

Sounds great. I haven't coded anything for JOSM yet, but am more than 
willing to take a stab at it. Would the selected houses be the start and 
end nodes of the way to be generated, or would they be two consecutive 
nodes and the rest to be added? If it is the second one, we would need a 
third node to indicate the start (or end) of the way.


A possible pitfall that I foresee is dealing with unevenly spaced or 
sized lots. For example, a residential area is divided into blocks of 
equal size, but in one block there are 3 houses along a way, and in the 
next block only 2.


Anyway, I'll take a look so long and see what I can come up with.

Regards,
Philip

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