[Tango-L] festivals.tango.info/2008 - 82 festivals
Hi all, until now there are 82 festivals at http://festivals.tango.info/2008 See the next upcoming at http://festivals.tango.info/ register a festival http://data.tango.info/index.php?register=festival you may also like to put the announcement online immediatly via wiki.tango.info, which is separate from festivals.tango.info http://wiki.tango.info/calendar/?action=addevent best regards Tobias -- Tobias Conradi http://eng.tango.info http://festivals.tango.info http://wiki.tango.info http://gmap.tango.info http://info.tango.info __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. Dem pfiffigeren Posteingang. http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend
Igor Milongando...most instructors (usa) cannot dance the Milonga..this guy can. http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=t8wXbuJ0SYM alternative Milonga music ...but it works. http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk3nFezA-3k can never show this enough..and leading in high heels yet..not easy! http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=QhknYQ41j9Y ..carrying it a bit further.. http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=14GzFOPmM4Qfeature=related ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] lyrics translation
Hi, all-- I understand enough spanish to get the gist of these lyrics (beautiful!). Would someone please assist with a good translation? Thanks! Ira Ithaca, NY Dos corazones Waltz Music: Francisco Canaro Lyric: Ivo Pelay Cual dos gotas de claro rocío que en la noche se besan calladas, Cual dos ondas que van impulsadas a fundirse en la orilla del río. Como el fuego que envuelve el estío, como nube que abraza otra nube, así son tu cariño y el mío que se funden en un solo ideal. Con tu corazón en mi corazón el lucero azul brillará mejor. Con tu corazón en mi corazón todo en el jardín hablará de amor. Notas cristalinas llenarán tu oído y una luz divina nos envolverá. Fijaré mis ojos, en tus negros ojos, uniré mis labios, a tus labios rojos. Y mi inspiración volará al seguir, con tu corazón, en mi corazón. Cual sonoras campanas que funden sus repiques en una armonía. Como rayos de sol que confunden su fulgor con la gloria del día. Como un son que se liga a otros sones, como sombra que besa otra sombra, así son nuestros dos corazones que se funden en un solo ideal. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend
most instructors (usa) cannot dance the Milonga Interesting. I did not know that! I learn so much from tango-l. ..this guy can. Agreed. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] lyrics translation
Hi Ira, This is my favourite vals, and the fact that hardly any Australian DJ's that I've encountered play it (I've been dancing for around 6 years, yet I've only heard it 3 times) makes it even more special. The last time I heard it was in early July, last year. My partner put on a surprise 30th birthday milonga for me, and got the band thet he had hired for the night to learn and play it for the occasion (he is still earning brownie points for that). Anyway, back to your request, you can find a translation on Jake Spatz' website, at: http://tangodc.com/lyrics/doscorazones.htm 2008/6/6 Ira Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, all-- I understand enough spanish to get the gist of these lyrics (beautiful!). Would someone please assist with a good translation? Thanks! Ira Ithaca, NY Dos corazones Waltz Music: Francisco Canaro Lyric: Ivo Pelay Cual dos gotas de claro rocío que en la noche se besan calladas, Cual dos ondas que van impulsadas a fundirse en la orilla del río. Como el fuego que envuelve el estío, como nube que abraza otra nube, así son tu cariño y el mío que se funden en un solo ideal. Con tu corazón en mi corazón el lucero azul brillará mejor. Con tu corazón en mi corazón todo en el jardín hablará de amor. Notas cristalinas llenarán tu oído y una luz divina nos envolverá. Fijaré mis ojos, en tus negros ojos, uniré mis labios, a tus labios rojos. Y mi inspiración volará al seguir, con tu corazón, en mi corazón. Cual sonoras campanas que funden sus repiques en una armonía. Como rayos de sol que confunden su fulgor con la gloria del día. Como un son que se liga a otros sones, como sombra que besa otra sombra, así son nuestros dos corazones que se funden en un solo ideal. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l -- Yours in dance dementia, Niki tangotrails.blogspot.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend
- Original Message From: Joe Grohens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tango-l@mit.edu Cc: Joe Grohens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 11:47:07 AM Subject: [Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend most instructors (usa) cannot dance the Milonga Interesting. I did not know that! I learn so much from tango-l. WHAT? I mean, you can't be serious! Are you not mocking the original inspiration for the weekend post? I mean, I like and encourage Mario's asking questions and such and apparently wanting to learn, but he displayed absolutely no substantial knowledge so far on any subject of tango to make him any sort of authority to pass judgment like most instructors (usa) cannot dance the Milonga..this guy can. It is not so much that Mario's judgment is right or wrong but that someone fairly new to the subject should not volunteer his or her opinions before paying the proper dues. There are those on this list who, with even less knowledge, can not discard the misjudgments and, in this respect, Mario is doing them a disfavor. This whole Mario thing sounds like one big joke. Mario, please do continue to participate but resist the urge to pass general sort of judgements unless they are clearly just personal preferences to which you are certainly entitled. ...dubravko P.S. I have communicated with Igor in private about that milonga clip and our views on it coincide. Since it was a private communication, it will remain so. === seek, appreciate, and create beauty this life is not a rehearsal === ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most instructors (usa) cannot dance the Milonga Check out how some milongueros dance milonga. View the videos by Pocho and El Flaco Dany: http://www.centraltango.com/TangoInfo/VideoTangoMilonguero.htm One thing that is immediately apparent in these videos is that the dancing is unhurried. Yes, the milongas are slow Canaro, but they are also dancing a traspie rhythm. The unhurried look is due in large part to smaller steps, but also to collecting and waiting for partner collection before taking the next step. This unhurried dancing to milonga is a characteristic that differentiates the milongueros from average dancers, not just outside Argentina, but even within Argentina. For example, one can see a variety of speeds of dancing to this fast milonga on a low density floor at the Lo de Celia milonga in Buenos Aires: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfilkXAOxofeature=related I cannot verify that the faster dancers are porten~os. Ron ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend
Ron has a point, however, dancing on tango beat with couple syncopations does not mean milonga dancing necessarily. I would prefer to choose calm dancing compared to unsuccessfull chasing of the music. Does it make sense? We teach milonga technique after we teach tango technique, this won't for work leaders unfortunately. Advancing in musicality requires several skills such as .Manipulation and recombination of the rhythm .transition between staccato and legato concepts .developing awareness on thematic vs sequence focused patterns (cruzada, ocho cortado etc.) Here some different milonga dancing styles by great dancers If you have no idea or confused about what I'm talking about, feel free to write me directly. Burak Chicago www.tangoeclectique.com Www.chicagotangoweek.com :: Sent from my T-Mobile Sidekick Slide® :: ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend
From: Burak Ozkosem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tango Society of Central Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tango-L tango-l@mit.edu Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 2:09 pm Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend Advancing in musicality requires several skills such as .Manipulation and recombination of the rhythm .transition between staccato and legato concepts .developing awareness on thematic vs sequence focused patterns (cruzada, ocho cortado etc.) Here some different milonga dancing styles by great dancers - - How about just listening to the music and connecting your movements to it? Geesh. All this intellectualizing about the music. I've never seen it get anyone to 'advance their musicality'. It gets people to dance with their heads instead of their bodies. I doubt the milongueros think about this complexity when they dance. They just feel the music and move to it. Leave this for tango academia, not the dance floor. Mel ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend
Hi Mario and all, Mario wrote, Igor Milongando...most instructors (usa) cannot dance the Milonga..this guy can. http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=t8wXbuJ0SYM OK, I've met Igor, and we sometimes correspond. He's a good dancer, and I like him. But Mario, this video you've posted is not a great milonga. Its more like a sped-up tango with no pauses. Everything is too big (look at the size of some of the steps!). Everything is the same speed. There are no traspie steps. It does not have the look and feel of a milonga except that they step on every beat, which I don't like anyway, but some people have the idea that milonga must be danced that way. Yes, its a performance, as are all these I've posted below, which we must take into consideration when we watch all this stuff. Usually performances are danced differently than they would be otherwise. And while there are fewer good dancers and teachers of milonga (good milonga, in my opinion, is the hardest of the three genres), the USA does have some teachers that are very good at it. While I can pick stuff out of any performance that I don't care for, these four videos are of US teachers dancing milonga that showcase the look and feel of milonga done well. I'm sure there are more, but I picked these out in 5 minutes (I'd never seen these videos before today). I would also like to say that I'm not a great dancer of milongamaybe one of these days! http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=SxEH_eYzC3M http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=zAKBvfg0yq4 http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=souF9ZZPAjA http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=zdjocXq05es See? No head-exploding ammunition! Regards, Michael Figart II Houston Tx ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga - inspiration for the weekend
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Burak Ozkosem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron has a point, however, dancing on tango beat with couple syncopations does not mean milonga dancing necessarily. I would prefer to choose calm dancing compared to unsuccessfull chasing of the music. Does it make sense? Burak, It's not exactly clear what you're saying. Since I presented videos of Pocho and Dany Garcia dancing what appeared to be milonga, tt sounds like you're saying that Pocho and Dany Garcia are dancing 'on tango beat with couple synchopations' instead of milonga. If that is correct, could you please clarify how Pocho and Dany can dance milonga better. I will be seeing them next month so I can convey your suggestions to them if you like. Cheers, Ron ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
