[Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Just got this from Milan Records. The download at Amazon.com is $1.99 for all 50 songs - a very good deal. The special started last night (Thursday). The album does not contain much dance music, but it's a good place for those who need to build a tango collection. Carlos The Voice Gardel is the Elvis of Tango. His rich voice popularized tango all over the world until his death in 1935. Every tanguero should have him in their music collection. Astor Piazzolla is another profound influence in tango, as well and is another must have. Although Piazzolla is not considered to be dance music and is not played at the milongas in Buenos Aires, his pieces have been quite popular with the nuevo crowd. After today, prices goes back to $5.99. This is a special partnership with Amazon.com. If we show them our support, it will encourage Amazon to support more tango. Then, email Stefan and ask for dance classics. :-) I do not have any financial interests in this event. Trini de Pittsburgh --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Stefan stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com wrote: From: Stefan stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com Subject: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight To: patan...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 8:22 PM Hi there, This is just a reminder that starting tonight, and for a limited amount of time only, Amazon.com MP3 and Milan Records are offering 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99. You can download the entire bundle for $1.99 here: http://www.amazon.com/50-Essential-Tangos/dp/B002KWHAOU/ The bundle includes a comprehensive collection of Argentine Tango beginning with the mythical years of Carlos Gardel and evolving to the rebirth of “Nuevo Tango” with Astor Piazzolla. It continues on to classic post World War II compositions revisited by the Tango virtuosos of the last quarter of the 20th Century such as Richard Galliano and Nestor Marconi. It also includes Roberto Goyeneche, the unmistakable voice behind Piazzolla’s Vuelvo Al Sur, Susana Rinaldi and many others. Enjoy the Tango! Stefan Stefan Karrer Milan Entertainment, Inc. 6725 Sunset Blvd Ste 320 Los Angeles, CA 90028 Phone: (818) 849-3349 Fax: (818) 849-3341 stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com www.milanrecords.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Thanks for the info, Trini! As I am not familliar with MP3 downlaods at Amazon.com: are those MP3s DRM-free or not? In other words: could I copy those MP3 on my iPod, later move them somewhere else, and so on, without any hassle of internet activiation / re-verification. If DRM-free this sounds ;-) like a good offer. Christian Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Von: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com An: Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu Betreff: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight Just got this from Milan Records. The download at Amazon.com is $1.99 for all 50 songs - a very good deal. The special started last night (Thursday). The album does not contain much dance music, but it's a good place for those who need to build a tango collection. Carlos The Voice Gardel is the Elvis of Tango. His rich voice popularized tango all over the world until his death in 1935. Every tanguero should have him in their music collection. Astor Piazzolla is another profound influence in tango, as well and is another must have. Although Piazzolla is not considered to be dance music and is not played at the milongas in Buenos Aires, his pieces have been quite popular with the nuevo crowd. After today, prices goes back to $5.99. This is a special partnership with Amazon.com. If we show them our support, it will encourage Amazon to support more tango. Then, email Stefan and ask for dance classics. :-) I do not have any financial interests in this event. Trini de Pittsburgh --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Stefan stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com wrote: From: Stefan stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com Subject: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight To: patan...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 8:22 PM Hi there, This is just a reminder that starting tonight, and for a limited amount of time only, Amazon.com MP3 and Milan Records are offering 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99. You can download the entire bundle for $1.99 here: http://www.amazon.com/50-Essential-Tangos/dp/B002KWHAOU/ The bundle includes a comprehensive collection of Argentine Tango beginning with the mythical years of Carlos Gardel and evolving to the rebirth of “Nuevo Tango” with Astor Piazzolla. It continues on to classic post World War II compositions revisited by the Tango virtuosos of the last quarter of the 20th Century such as Richard Galliano and Nestor Marconi. It also includes Roberto Goyeneche, the unmistakable voice behind Piazzolla’s Vuelvo Al Sur, Susana Rinaldi and many others. Enjoy the Tango! Stefan Stefan Karrer Milan Entertainment, Inc. 6725 Sunset Blvd Ste 320 Los Angeles, CA 90028 Phone: (818) 849-3349 Fax: (818) 849-3341 stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com www.milanrecords.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l -- *** christian.luet...@gmx.net *** How inappropriate to call this planet earth ... ... as clearly it is ocean! *** Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Thanks, Trini, for your information. I just gave it a try down here in The Netherlands ... but no chance! ;-( This is how it goes: Amazon.com-Shop says: You have selected to purchase: 50 Essential Tangos by Various Artists (Amazon MP3 Purchases are limited to U.S. customers.) Not a fair go for those outside the U.S. ... ;-( Amazon.com-Shop also says: You must install the Amazon MP3 Downloader to purchase albums. * It automatically adds your music downloads to iTunes or Windows Media Player * It takes just a few clicks and less than 30 seconds to install By that point I would have quit the whole purchase anyway: Why should I install their downloader just to buy and listen to a MP3 file / a bunch of files?! Why should I have to use iTunes or WindozeMediaPlayer - there's more software out there (and *free* software, *free* in a sense of interlectually free!) This smells like DRM-cripled MP3-files ... *no*thanks*! Amazon.com-Shop has even more to tell: If you would rather not install the Amazon MP3 Downloader, you can purchase individual songs without it. Ah ha: if I go for the expensive version I do not have to use their downloader! Hmm ... ;-(( Now I just hit the 'cancel purchase' link! Good idea of promotion for Amazon.com and the concept of download-purchasing music - this would have been my first time. But due to the above facts: nope. Chance missed, Amazon.com! Happy weekend, e'body! Christian Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Von: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com An: Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu Betreff: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight Just got this from Milan Records. The download at Amazon.com is $1.99 for all 50 songs - a very good deal. The special started last night (Thursday). The album does not contain much dance music, but it's a good place for those who need to build a tango collection. Carlos The Voice Gardel is the Elvis of Tango. His rich voice popularized tango all over the world until his death in 1935. Every tanguero should have him in their music collection. Astor Piazzolla is another profound influence in tango, as well and is another must have. Although Piazzolla is not considered to be dance music and is not played at the milongas in Buenos Aires, his pieces have been quite popular with the nuevo crowd. After today, prices goes back to $5.99. This is a special partnership with Amazon.com. If we show them our support, it will encourage Amazon to support more tango. Then, email Stefan and ask for dance classics. :-) I do not have any financial interests in this event. Trini de Pittsburgh --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Stefan stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com wrote: From: Stefan stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com Subject: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight To: patan...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 8:22 PM Hi there, This is just a reminder that starting tonight, and for a limited amount of time only, Amazon.com MP3 and Milan Records are offering 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99. You can download the entire bundle for $1.99 here: http://www.amazon.com/50-Essential-Tangos/dp/B002KWHAOU/ The bundle includes a comprehensive collection of Argentine Tango beginning with the mythical years of Carlos Gardel and evolving to the rebirth of “Nuevo Tango” with Astor Piazzolla. It continues on to classic post World War II compositions revisited by the Tango virtuosos of the last quarter of the 20th Century such as Richard Galliano and Nestor Marconi. It also includes Roberto Goyeneche, the unmistakable voice behind Piazzolla’s Vuelvo Al Sur, Susana Rinaldi and many others. Enjoy the Tango! Stefan Stefan Karrer Milan Entertainment, Inc. 6725 Sunset Blvd Ste 320 Los Angeles, CA 90028 Phone: (818) 849-3349 Fax: (818) 849-3341 stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com www.milanrecords.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l -- *** christian.luet...@gmx.net *** How inappropriate to call this planet earth ... ... as clearly it is ocean! *** GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Book review
There are a couple of new books out about the tango experience. I have read and written a review of one of them in The Tango Times, Tango, An Argentine Love Story (Seal Press) by Camille Cusumano. It is an excellent read and one all will relate to on some level. If you are interested in reading the review and receiving The Tango Times (going strong after 19 yrs), you can email Danel and Maria at: i...@danelymaria.com or you can reply to me directly and I will send you a copy. Cheers, Charles ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] 50 essential tangos
Dear friends, You may download the Amazon MP3 Cd 50 essential tangos for $1,99. See Milan Records note at http://www.pr.com/press-release/170684 Sergio _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Trini, Astor Piazzolla is widely danced to, as well as in Milongas in Buenos Aires. Most milongas in BsAS now are much more open in choices to music and not as traditional as they used to be. Thanks,Bettina On 8/21/09, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com wrote: Just got this from Milan Records. The download at Amazon.com is $1.99 for all 50 songs - a very good deal. The special started last night (Thursday). The album does not contain much dance music, but it's a good place for those who need to build a tango collection. Carlos The Voice Gardel is the Elvis of Tango. His rich voice popularized tango all over the world until his death in 1935. Every tanguero should have him in their music collection. Astor Piazzolla is another profound influence in tango, as well and is another must have. Although Piazzolla is not considered to be dance music and is not played at the milongas in Buenos Aires, his pieces have been quite popular with the nuevo crowd. After today, prices goes back to $5.99. This is a special partnership with Amazon.com. If we show them our support, it will encourage Amazon to support more tango. Then, email Stefan and ask for dance classics. :-) I do not have any financial interests in this event. Trini de Pittsburgh --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Stefan stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com wrote: From: Stefan stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com Subject: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight To: patan...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 8:22 PM Hi there, This is just a reminder that starting tonight, and for a limited amount of time only, Amazon.com MP3 and Milan Records are offering 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99. You can download the entire bundle for $1.99 here: http://www.amazon.com/50-Essential-Tangos/dp/B002KWHAOU/ The bundle includes a comprehensive collection of Argentine Tango beginning with the mythical years of Carlos Gardel and evolving to the rebirth of “Nuevo Tango” with Astor Piazzolla. It continues on to classic post World War II compositions revisited by the Tango virtuosos of the last quarter of the 20th Century such as Richard Galliano and Nestor Marconi. It also includes Roberto Goyeneche, the unmistakable voice behind Piazzolla’s Vuelvo Al Sur, Susana Rinaldi and many others. Enjoy the Tango! Stefan Stefan Karrer Milan Entertainment, Inc. 6725 Sunset Blvd Ste 320 Los Angeles, CA 90028 Phone: (818) 849-3349 Fax: (818) 849-3341 stefan.kar...@milanrecords.com www.milanrecords.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Bettina, Piazolla is never danced in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires. Never. Nor is Gardel or that Greek folksong so popular elsewhere, Tango for Ephora. But yes, the DJs of alternative milongas and practicas here play modern music and non-tango music on occasion. But only the young and/or foreign go there. The milongueros would croak to hear Libertango played for them to dance to! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com Trini, Astor Piazzolla is widely danced to, as well as in Milongas in Buenos Aires. Most milongas in BsAS now are much more open in choices to music and not as traditional as they used to be. Thanks,Bettina ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
There are so many milongas now in BA and there is no such thing as just Nuevo - there are many cross overs now ad I know some DJ's that play a variety of all kinds of music - things are very differet now than a few years ago, I have lived here 2 years and hear what is being played, sorry. BA is not just old milongueros any longer since awhile, many of those cannot even come anymore to the milongas as they are too old and sadly, no longer able to dance. Just this last week two new milongas have opened. There is a large new generation now in Tango that dances traditional as Alternative and Dj's are providing that. Things are changing - even in Buenos Aires. And what I love here things are not that black and white, it is much more organic. There is also no such thing as the young or the old milongueros go into many Milongas here and it is all mixed. On 8/21/09, macfro...@aol.com macfro...@aol.com wrote: Bettina, Piazolla is never danced in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires. Never. Nor is Gardel or that Greek folksong so popular elsewhere, Tango for Ephora. But yes, the DJs of alternative milongas and practicas here play modern music and non-tango music on occasion. But only the young and/or foreign go there. The milongueros would croak to hear Libertango played for them to dance to! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com Trini, Astor Piazzolla is widely danced to, as well as in Milongas in Buenos Aires. Most milongas in BsAS now are much more open in choices to music and not as traditional as they used to be. Thanks,Bettina ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Bettina, Do we live in the same city? I've lived for 6 years here in Buenos Aires and dance and teach tango with my partner, Ruben Aybar. We go to dance all the time at the traditional milongas, which NEVER play alternative music. It is most definitely not all mixed! Do you go to Region Leonesa, Lo de Celia, La Ideal, El Beso, Maipu, Gricel, El Arranque, Sunderland, etc? (Ok, Maipu does have the alternative milonga, La Marshal, on Weds.) And it is true that the old milongueros sometimes do go to the young milongas in order to dance with young women, but not to dance well. Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com There are so many milongas now in BA and there is no such thing as just Nuevo - there are many cross overs now ad I know some DJ's that play a variety of all kinds of music - things are very differet now than a few years ago, I have lived here 2 years and hear what is being played, sorry. BA is not just old milongueros any longer since awhile, many of those cannot even come anymore to the milongas as they are too old and sadly, no longer able to dance. Just this last week two new milongas have opened. There is a large new generation now in Tango that dances traditional as Alternative and Dj's are providing that. Things are changing - even in Buenos Aires. And what I love here things are not that black and white, it is much more organic. There is also no such thing as the young or the old milongueros go into many Milongas here and it is all mixed. On 8/21/09, macfro...@aol.com macfro...@aol.com wrote: Bettina, Piazolla is never danced in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires. Never. Nor is Gardel or that Greek folksong so popular elsewhere, Tango for Ephora. But yes, the DJs of alternative milongas and practicas here play modern music and non-tango music on occasion. But only the young and/or foreign go there. The milongueros would croak to hear Libertango played for them to dance to! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com Trini, Astor Piazzolla is widely danced to, as well as in Milongas in Buenos Aires. Most milongas in BsAS now are much more open in choices to music and not as traditional as they used to be. Thanks,Bettina ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Piazzolla in Buenos Aires Milongas
OK, be specific. In what milongas is Piazzolla played for dancing tango and who are the DJs playing it? I have NEVER heard Piazzolla played at a milonga in Buenos Aires. Maybe I'm going to the wrong milongas!! (Ha!!) Besides, you can't dance tango to Piazzolla. (Piazzolla said so himself). Nothing wrong with the music, it's just not for dancing. Ron - Original Message From: bettina maria bettinamar...@gmail.com To: macfro...@aol.com Cc: tango-l@mit.edu Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:25:22 AM Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight There are so many milongas now in BA and there is no such thing as just Nuevo - there are many cross overs now ad I know some DJ's that play a variety of all kinds of music - things are very differet now than a few years ago, I have lived here 2 years and hear what is being played, sorry. BA is not just old milongueros any longer since awhile, many of those cannot even come anymore to the milongas as they are too old and sadly, no longer able to dance. Just this last week two new milongas have opened. There is a large new generation now in Tango that dances traditional as Alternative and Dj's are providing that. Things are changing - even in Buenos Aires. And what I love here things are not that black and white, it is much more organic. There is also no such thing as the young or the old milongueros go into many Milongas here and it is all mixed. On 8/21/09, macfro...@aol.com wrote: Bettina, Piazolla is never danced in the traditional milongas of Buenos Aires. Never. Nor is Gardel or that Greek folksong so popular elsewhere, Tango for Ephora. But yes, the DJs of alternative milongas and practicas here play modern music and non-tango music on occasion. But only the young and/or foreign go there. The milongueros would croak to hear Libertango played for them to dance to! Cherie http://tangocherie.blogspot.com Trini, Astor Piazzolla is widely danced to, as well as in Milongas in Buenos Aires. Most milongas in BsAS now are much more open in choices to music and not as traditional as they used to be. Thanks,Bettina ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] 50 Essential Tangos, etc.
Many of the tangos offered in the set aren't really that great, at least as dancing music. Mostly they are a subjective selection of big hits, mostly vocal and not representative of what was and/or is played for dancing. If you have a decent collection of tangos, I wouldn't bother getting these (although they are cheap) but if you don't, then add these to your collections, but don't expect great dance songs. As to Bettina's assertion that the music is more eclectic these days, that is most likely true, but I still think it depends on where you go and which night. Many milongas have started that cater to the alternative crowd but there are still traditional ones. I have never heard alternative music at Sunderland or Sin Rumbo (or Gricel, but that can also depend on which night you go.) Some nights have different organizers who play for a different crowd so it is always good to check who is running it that particular night. I know people who have gone to Bs. As. and never been to those milongas so their impression of what is being played is different. One of the great things about Sunderland for those who looking for the classic tango is that it is not near downtown so many people don't want to travel out that far to dance unless they are hard-core traditionalists. So you don't see many nuevo people there. People dress up and the music is classic tango, as is the dancing. It is well worth the trip, if only to watch the elegant dancers that go there. There are still options for dancing either way, and hopefully people will always have that choice. The old milongueros (and for the most part they are all older... there is really no such thing as a young milonguero) are dying off but there are still younger dancers who follow and teach the classic style. Cheers ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight
Well, I bought it and for me, I DON'T see it as essential for traditional dancers. The early stuff with Gardel is scratchy. The Piazolla is from a live album. A lot of the other stuff has more of a piano bar/jazz feeling to me. There is NOTHING in the collection that I have ever heard at a traditional milonga here in Florida. (Whenever I have heard a Piazolla tanda at a traditional milonga here in Florida, it was a studio cut - NOT a live cut.) Nuevo fans might find a few cuts they like. El Stevito de Gainesville ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] History related to news these days
Hello Friends; Last night, I got to hug Tine Herreman because she is here in Montreal working this weekend. :-) I hope I will see her for private time aside from last night when she visited my milonga late. Tonight and tomorrow I can go to where she will do her thing in different milongas. I was just thinking that I would like her to see this page (Tine!). You, too. http://www.totango.net/recordsandMontreal.html ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Piazzolla is not played at Traditional Milongas
- Original Message From: Steve Littler s...@stevelittler.com Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight Well, I bought it and for me, I DON'T see it as essential for traditional dancers. The early stuff with Gardel is scratchy. The Piazolla is from a live album. A lot of the other stuff has more of a piano bar/jazz feeling to me. There is NOTHING in the collection that I have ever heard at a traditional milonga here in Florida. (Whenever I have heard a Piazolla tanda at a traditional milonga here in Florida, it was a studio cut - NOT a live cut.) Nuevo fans might find a few cuts they like. El Stevito de Gainesville Piazzolla is not played at traditional milongas - only tango music from the tango dance orchestras of the 30s, 40s, and 50s, with an occasional tanda of a modern orchestra (after 1960) playing in that style. This is what is played in the overwhelming majority of milongas in Buenos Aires. It is the music, in part, that defines a milonga as 'traditional', although using that label for a milonga is as redundant as using 'Argentine tango' to describe the tango danced in Buenos Aires milongas. The deviations from the cultural tradition are what need the modifiers - 'alternative milongas' and 'nuevo (tango)'. Ron .. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Piazzolla is not played at Traditional Milongas
Heh...yeah, I know what you are saying. But here in Florida (Tallahassee, Tampa, Sarasota, Gainesville - except for Tango y Te') they usually slip in some ALT or Nuevo - maybe 5%. El Stevito de Gainesville RonTango wrote: - Original Message From: Steve Littler s...@stevelittler.com Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight Well, I bought it and for me, I DON'T see it as essential for traditional dancers. The early stuff with Gardel is scratchy. The Piazolla is from a live album. A lot of the other stuff has more of a piano bar/jazz feeling to me. There is NOTHING in the collection that I have ever heard at a traditional milonga here in Florida. (Whenever I have heard a Piazolla tanda at a traditional milonga here in Florida, it was a studio cut - NOT a live cut.) Nuevo fans might find a few cuts they like. El Stevito de Gainesville Piazzolla is not played at traditional milongas - only tango music from the tango dance orchestras of the 30s, 40s, and 50s, with an occasional tanda of a modern orchestra (after 1960) playing in that style. This is what is played in the overwhelming majority of milongas in Buenos Aires. It is the music, in part, that defines a milonga as 'traditional', although using that label for a milonga is as redundant as using 'Argentine tango' to describe the tango danced in Buenos Aires milongas. The deviations from the cultural tradition are what need the modifiers - 'alternative milongas' and 'nuevo (tango)'. Ron .. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Piazzolla is not played at Traditional Milongas
I bought the album, and I agree, not necessarily the 50 songs that I would find essential, but interesting and more than a few new ones for me. I also haven't heard, so far, anything I would really dance to, but there are some very nice listening songs. I don't know if anyone has experienced this - but I have changed a lot in how I think about tango music. When I began, anything and everything was fair game, I danced to anything tango and a lot that wasn't. Then, every song was measured against a danceability standard. Now, I find that I have two kinds of music, dancing and listening.has this been the case for other folks? -Original Message- From: RonTango ronta...@rocketmail.com To: Steve Littler s...@stevelittler.com; Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com Cc: Tango-L tango-l@mit.edu Sent: Fri, Aug 21, 2009 4:51 pm Subject: [Tango-L] Piazzolla is not played at Traditional Milongas - Original Message From: Steve Littler s...@stevelittler.com Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla 50 Essential Tangos for $1.99 starting tonight Well, I bought it and for me, I DON'T see it as essential for traditional dancers. The early stuff with Gardel is scratchy. The Piazolla is from a live album. A lot of the other stuff has more of a piano bar/jazz feeling to me. There is NOTHING in the collection that I have ever heard at a traditional milonga here in Florida. (Whenever I have heard a Piazolla tanda at a traditional milonga here in Florida, it was a studio cut - NOT a live cut.) Nuevo fans might find a few cuts they like. El Stevito de Gainesville Piazzolla is not played at traditional milongas - only tango music from the tango dance orchestras of the 30s, 40s, and 50s, with an occasional tanda of a modern orchestra (after 1960) playing in that style. This is what is played in the overwhelming majority of milongas in Buenos Aires. It is the music, in part, that defines a milonga as 'traditional', although using that label for a milonga is as redundant as using 'Argentine tango' to describe the tango danced in Buenos Aires milongas. The deviations from the cultural tradition are what need the modifiers - 'alternative milongas' and 'nuevo (tango)'. Ron .. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Piaazzola at the milongas
Ron asks to Bettina : OK, be specific. In what milongas is Piazzolla played for dancing tango and who are the DJs playing it? I have NEVER heard Piazzolla played at a milonga in Buenos Aires. Maybe I'm going to the wrong milongas!! Ron sit down to wait for the answer as it may take a while.:)) If you wait standing you will get tired. Sergio _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Screaming Tango singers
Hey Keith, you could be talking about dancers here. Excuse the edits... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:31:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Elshaw ke...@totango.net . or because they just haven't enough confidence/experience/ knowledge to get what a compelling DANCE is all about. A great DANCER knows the difference between power and AGGRESSION. But, one has to have finely-tuned ears and a calm, confident disposition to find the right level. The DANCER wanted to be/became the star, as opposed to the DANCE and the orquesta as it in in the music we all love to dance to. Really, someone who FORCES is under-confident and should just calm down. Don't try so hard... ...In their defence, I believe that when tango went into a kind of nose-dive in the 50's, when arrangements changed to feature the singer right off the top of the song instead of half-way through;. Not so sure about this paragraph though. Was there not always a singing genre of Tango?. (Tango Cancion - e.g., Gardel; Libertad Lamarque; Rinaldi etc., ) as well as the dance genre, where the vocalist mostly sings the bridge, as you say, as part of the orchestra. (Was it Canaro who introduced the vocalist to dance music? I remember reading that somewhere). Too many DJ's and dancers can not differentiate between Tango for dancing and Tango for listening (Tango cancion or Piazzolla's concert music). The distinction is even more important today with so much experimental Tango /latin / jazz / pop fusion. DJ's must be very selective with modern music, but in my experience many will play any latin or rock beat, as long as it has a bandoneon in the mix and they can tag it Nuevo. :) John ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Piazzolla is not played at Traditional Milongas
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Barbra buffmilongu...@aol.com wrote: Now, I find that I have two kinds of music, dancing and listening.has this been the case for other folks? Yes, and a typical tango show reflects this distinction. Sometimes the orchestra plays by itself, sometimes a singer comes on stage and sings a tango, and only maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of the time are there dancers on the stage. Huck ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
