Re: [Tango-L] The Basic Elements of Tango
Just got this today in the email from a local (Argentinian by origin) teacher: A class to learn, review and polish the fundamental elements in Tango: ochos, paradas, boleos, barridas, ganchos, amagues, giros, sacadas, etc. We will work on those elements in their most basic form, as well as balance, posture and coordination with your partner in order to attain accurate technique and comfortable execution. I guess it's the case of having the demand dictate what gets tossed into the fundamentals basket. Sergey May you be forever touched by His Noodly Appendage... ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster ) --- On Wed, 7/7/10, RonTango ronta...@rocketmail.com wrote: The assertion is that “ganchos, volcadas, colgadas, and sacadas” are basic elements of tango. Assuming this refers to social tango (“a few miles on the crowded dance floors”), there is a problem of misrepresentation of tango here. By these standards the milongueros in Buenos Aires have not yet reached the intermediate level, despite some having danced 40-50 years. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] The Basic Elements of Tango
Just got this today in the email from a local (Argentinian by origin) teacher: A class to learn, review and polish the fundamental elements in Tango: ochos, paradas, boleos, barridas, ganchos, amagues, giros, sacadas, etc. To me, this is all still teacher talk to make tango complicated so people think they have to endure level 1 though 89, etc. Tango is basically a walking dance, no? There are so many ways to walk to different kinds of music. THAT is surely the fundamental element of tango. The rest of it is basically stuff to ensure one can make money teaching people who haven't a clue what it really is? Sorry. It seems to me no one in Argentina ever took a class to learn tango. You danced on the weekend with your family and neighbourhood friends and you picked it up. You developed your own way. Returning to roots seems to me the best way of getting it. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] The Basic Elements of Tango
I think the real problem is some dancers feel their vocabulary is incomplete if the latest fad isn't included. Some people emphasize figures while others emphasize connection. When the connection is so good your heart is palpitating, why would somebody want to break the connection for a colgada? Some dancers concentrate on themselves while others concentrate on their partner. Michael I danced Argentine Tango --with the Argentines - Original Message - From: Keith Elshaw ke...@totango.net Subject: [Tango-L] The Basic Elements of Tango Just got this today in the email from a local (Argentine by origin) teacher: A class to learn, review and polish the fundamental elements in Tango: ochos, paradas, boleos, barridas, ganchos, amagues, giros, sacadas, etc. To me, this is all still teacher talk to make tango complicated so people think they have to endure level 1 though 89, etc. Tango is basically a walking dance, no? There are so many ways to walk to different kinds of music. THAT is surely the fundamental element of tango. The rest of it is basically stuff to ensure one can make money teaching people who haven't a clue what it really is? ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Basic
I pressed send by mistake! Walking, ochos, gyros. With the music. So many people learn all the fancy stuff on top of that they they never learn the real basics. If the above three were all you knew and could do well, you could dance all night with anybody in the world (except people who had been taught how to dance tango). ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Basic
Yes. It is important to add the idea that you need to be good, DAMNED GOOD, with walking, ochos, giros/sacadas (Turns, not greek sandwiches!), music. In fact, if you are really good at those things, cool moves and workshops are really easy. If you aren't really good with those things, then you are wasting a $30 master workshop and the teachers have to slow down the class and dumb down the material. To be a little rude, if you think this doesn't apply to you, it probably does. I also want to give a shout out to LOCAL TEACHERS. You get good at the basics through lots and lots of repetition, week after week, in group classes, practices and private lesson with someone better than you. On Jul 7, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Keith Elshaw wrote: I pressed send by mistake! Walking, ochos, gyros. With the music. So many people learn all the fancy stuff on top of that they they never learn the real basics. If the above three were all you knew and could do well, you could dance all night with anybody in the world (except people who had been taught how to dance tango). Tom Stermitz http://www.tango.org Denver, CO 80207 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Basic
Dear friends, What you learn as basic depends on what tango style you are learning. If you are learning Social dancing, then you learn how to walk in the milonguero style. You walk in many different ways. In front of the woman, inside, outside, intercalating double timing, etc. Naturally you learn to dance in close embrace. Then you learn how to change front. Progressive back ochos, ocho milonguero. Right and left turns. If you learn Classical Tango, you learn all the above but you add some elements. You also learn open embrace, you learn how to change your embrace open/close back and forth as needed. You learn back ochos with a different technique and front ochos. Then you learn figures that use a combination of front and back ochos: The half moon, the sandwich, etc. Then you learn basic moves such as boleos, amagues, barridas, ganchos, etc. If you learn Nuevo Tango you learn all the above plus you learn to dance in a very open embrace. You learn to lead with a different technique as well. In summary: your basic tango may vary somewhat depending on what style you are learning at the moment. Best regards, Sergio _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
