Re: [Tango-L] (no subject)

2014-02-26 Thread Barbra
Hullo! http://www.diora.com.ua/_fact?osoqihog848787



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[Tango-L] lead/follow as dialectic

2011-01-18 Thread Barbra
Dialectic is based on a dialogue between two or more people who may 
hold differing views, yet wish to seek the truth of the matter through 
the exchange of their viewpoints while applying reason. (sub technique 
for reason?)


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Re: [Tango-L] Male / Female - Defining the different roles.

2010-10-28 Thread Barbra

sean - good answer :)

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From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thu, Oct 28, 2010 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Male / Female -  Defining the  different roles.


Mario sopel...@yahoo.com wrote:

One of the differences in roles that most impresses me is how the man 
is
responsible for the dance itself. That is; he sets the cadence the 
movements the
vital feel of the dance.

Sean Here:

This is the man's archetypal fantasy of tango. It is so important, that 
if you
take it away from him, then what you have left might not even be tango. 
The
problem then is, it has been repeated so many times that women are 
starting to
believe it too.



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[Tango-L] Lookign for a song

2010-10-28 Thread Barbra
Come Together Tango  Beatles Project - can't find it in iTunes or 
Amazon - where else do I look?

thank
barbra

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[Tango-L] cortina help

2010-10-17 Thread Barbra
I have figured out how to make cortinas on Itunes - but now I want to 
take several from one song.  I can't seem to do that on itunes - does 
anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

thanks
barbra

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Re: [Tango-L] Rate of movement on crowded floors

2010-02-09 Thread Barbra

 okay, I'll bite - which 5 figures.???

 


 

 

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From: Michael tangoman...@cavtel.net
To: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com; Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu
Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Rate of movement on crowded floors


I'm not going anywhere because my car is locked in from compounded snow and 
ice and 16+ inches of snow is on the way. The federal government in 
Washington has been closed for two days @ $100 Million cost to the 
taxpayers, who I thank for two days off.

Based on the milongas I attended in BA, the main difference is the 
Argentines dance in close embrace but there is a lot of open embrace in the 
States, which takes up much more room, leaving less dance space. Also, 
Argentines only know five figures, and they are content. They don't use 
figures that stop the line of dance.

.
 
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[Tango-L] ITunes tango music

2010-01-14 Thread Barbra
I have just received an ITunes gift card and I am very excited. I amlooking for 
any suggestions folks may have about what I should beadding to my collection - 
I already have about 900 songs - traditional,nuevo, alternative, etc. so I am 
looking for what I might haveoverlooked, or lesser known artists, orchestras, 
etc.

All suggestions welcomed

thanks
barbra
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Re: [Tango-L] Tango on New Years

2009-11-19 Thread Barbra
I can tell you that, from my experience, any tango offering is going to 
be better attended than you think - and not just by tango dancers.  I 
have recently been to two chamber music concerts featuring tango music 
- totally packed much to the surprise of the hosts.  I have done 
similar tango rooms or other tango programs at fund-raisers, and 
folks love it - even if they just come to watch.  If you do a tango 
room, I would salt it with several local folks who know how to do the 
dance and people will love the opportunity to watch and listen to the 
music regardless of whether they dance or not - although in the past, I 
have asked my dancers to volunteer to wear a red ribbon - and I tell 
the watchers that the folks who are wearing a ribbon have already 
volunteered to try it with them if they ask.  I like the ribbon idea, 
because if the volunteer really wants to take a tanda or two off they 
can just take the ribbon off and put it back on.

barbra


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Re: [Tango-L] To the ladies on Tango-L - What makes for a good dance?

2009-10-18 Thread Barbra

I have said it before in this forum - but for me, as a follower, the 
essence of tango is a warm embrace (I use the baby-holding analogy all 
the time), confident walk and musicality - that's it.  Everything else 
- the fancy stuff - is fun only when well and safely done, and it's 
tango only if the basic three elements are there.  Otherwise, it's 
something, but it's not tango - to me.

When new folks show up at milongas for the first time, I like to ask 
them who they think is the best on the floor.  Invariably they pick 
the folks doing the ganchos, high boleos, lots of kicking, etc.  When I 
ask them again after they've actually been dancing for a while, 
especially followers, they have usually changed their minds and enjoy 
the connection and quiet, intimate expression that I think of as tango.

barbra

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dance?











Myk, your questions deserve some response. Here's my humble opinion.

Embrace.
1. When a leader's embrace is gentle but firm, this provides a sense of 
security
to the follower. When a follower feels secure, that person can follow 
you
better. Gentle and firm sound like a paradoxical situation but I think 
of being
a baby held in someone's arms and feeling secure because the hold is 
gentle but
firm.
2. I also like an embrace that is flexible, allowing the follower to 
move within
the framed space, even in a close embrace. Let me suggest that you 
think how you
like to be held for three minutes or so, and you get the idea that you 
must be
allowed to breath in and out freely when you are in that hold. I always 
imagine
the bandoneon's expansion and compression which is undoubtedly an 
exaggerated
way of looking at how the embracing arm can allow the framed space (and 
the
follower in it) to breath.

Fun moves.
They are fun, but the leader must gauge the follower's ability to 
execute the
moves without injury to both dancers and those around them. I enjoy 
them myself
but only if I am confident that the leader has the correct timing and 
stability
to support me. Skill is required from both dancers.

Music, music, music.
This factor determines whether you walk simply or swirl busily. Let the 
music be
your guide, and respect those around you while lose yourself in the 
music. I can
talk forever about musicality, but I won't do so here.

What's regarded a good dance?
I dare say it depends on one's mood, so it can vary from one moment to 
another.
At 1am at a milonga I am happy to relax into soft movements. But if a 
vals is
played, I am prepared to dance more expressively. If a leader is 
sensitive and
picks up on the follower's ability and mood, the leader can allow the 
follower
more freedom to determine how she implements his lead. It's about give 
and take
- a converstaion between two people.

I hope this helps.

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Re: [Tango-L] Piazzolla is not played at Traditional Milongas

2009-08-21 Thread Barbra
I bought the album, and I agree, not necessarily the 50 songs that I 
would find essential, but interesting and more than a few new ones for 
me.  I also haven't heard, so far, anything I would really dance to, 
but there are some very nice listening songs.

I don't know if anyone has experienced this - but I have changed a lot 
in how I think about tango music.  When I began, anything and 
everything was fair game, I danced to anything tango and a lot that 
wasn't.  Then, every song was measured against a danceability 
standard.  Now, I find that I have two kinds of music, dancing and 
listening.has this been the case for other folks?


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 From: Steve Littler s...@stevelittler.com
 Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Fw: Astor Piazzolla  50 Essential Tangos for 
$1.99
starting tonight

 Well, I bought it and for me, I DON'T see it as essential for
 traditional dancers. The early stuff with Gardel is scratchy. The
 Piazolla is from a live album. A lot of the other stuff has more of a
 piano bar/jazz feeling to me. There is NOTHING in the collection that 
I
 have ever heard at a traditional milonga here in Florida. (Whenever I
 have heard a Piazolla tanda at a traditional milonga here in Florida, 
it
 was a studio cut - NOT a live cut.) Nuevo fans might find a few cuts 
they
like.
 El Stevito de Gainesville

Piazzolla is not played at traditional milongas - only tango music from 
the
tango dance orchestras of the 30s, 40s, and 50s, with an occasional 
tanda of a
modern orchestra (after 1960) playing in that style. This is what is 
played in
the overwhelming majority of milongas in Buenos Aires. It is the music, 
in part,
that defines a milonga as 'traditional', although using that label for 
a milonga
is as redundant as using 'Argentine tango' to describe the tango danced 
in
Buenos Aires milongas. The deviations from the cultural tradition are 
what need
the modifiers - 'alternative milongas' and 'nuevo (tango)'.

Ron
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[Tango-L] tango in the Virgin Islands

2009-08-14 Thread Barbra
I will be visiting St. John's - and maybe St. Thomas.  Any suggestions?
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[Tango-L] Malambo

2009-05-28 Thread Barbra
I have just come across this Argentine folk dance and I love it - I am 
especially struck by the movements that also appear in tango.  Any 
suggestions to find out more about the dance?
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Re: [Tango-L] Malambo II

2009-05-28 Thread Barbra
thanks for everyone's responses - I was reluctant to just google, 
because it can be hard to weed through all the information you can get 
backI am going to continue to learn about it as I can, I think it's 
great and gives me yet another reason to visit Argentina...


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Those that would like more information about malambo, and read about 
the
difference between the northern and southern forms of the dance can see 
a web
page sent to me by a friend. (Susan).

http://www.travelsur.net/argentinamusic/malambo.html
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