[Tango-L] Show tango is not REAL tango?!
From: eleme...@msn.com To: larry...@juno.com; tango-l@mit.edu Subject: RE: [Tango-L] Show tango is not REAL tango?! Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:47:33 -0700 Hy Larry This is the best explanation of what tango is and how it functions. I was born in Buenos Aires and started dancing tango in 1947. I live in Redmond WA USA now and it surprises me that some good dancers and teachers even some coming from Argentina are dancing and teaching show tango, running around the dancing floor and scaring the other dancers, doing show tango steps disturbing the regular flow in the milongas. I did watch the fantastic dancing of Osvaldo and Miguel Zotto. It was in a Tango Festival in Miami. In the regular dancing held after the Show, I watched them dancing between the regular dancers in a very elegant way and with no show tango steps and not disturbing the other couples dancing around them. I am glad that most of the dancers here in Seattle are good dancers and respect the other dancers. Elemer in Redmond.. > From: larry...@juno.com > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:30:45 + > To: tango-L@mit.edu > Subject: [Tango-L] Show tango is not REAL tango?! > > http://www.todotango.com/english/creadores/pavellaneda.asp > >> . > > Politically conscious tango fans often try to make a clear-cut binary > distinction between REAL tango and show tango, but the universe rarely > cooperates with such rigid views. Sharing with others mastery of > something difficult and wonderful is part of human nature. Outside > Argentina this often shows up as "tango crimes" such as racing around a > crowded floor or doing whirlwind molinetes. Inside Argentina these > "criminals" are usually quickly set straight. So very late at milongas > in Argentina, when the crowd thins out and the floor opens up, is when > you usually see more showy behavior. And not just by energetic > acrobatic younger dancers. Those of advanced years who danced so close > and simply in the thick of the evening get a bit of room from their > partners and get a bit fancy, showing those who've only had, say, a > mere decade of tango dance experience what someone can do who's been > dancing for several decades. > > Larry de Los Angeles >> > > _ Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] metin video
I don't think is tango. The music is not tango, the dancing is not tango. (Is tango only because he says so). Elemer in Redmond. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tango-l@mit.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:13:42 > -0500> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] metin video> > I suspect that Metin's video > looks so bad because he didn't have a > professional partner for the class > and had to use one of the students.> If you're teaching complicated or > difficult figures, that always makes > it difficult for a visiting teacher. > Btw, Pulpo will be here in February, > but without Luisa. I wonder how he'll > look if he demontrates similar > figures with one of the students.> > Another > btw - does anyone think the Tango rock'n'roll video of Pulpo > and Luisa > looks even remotely like Tango? It might be fun, but is it > Tango? And, if > so, why? What makes it Tango? I don't knoe the> answer - I'm just asking what > others think.> > Keith, HK> > > > > > > On Sun Jan 27 1:23 , "Trini y Sean > (PATangoS)" sent:> > >The move Metin is demonstrating does look like fun > when> >done correctly. Check out this one with Pulpo & Luisa, in> >which he > does th! e move at about 2:26. > >http://www.youtube.com/watch\?v=OplUFeukicY> >> > > ___> Tango-L mailing list> Tango-L@mit.edu> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] FW: Keep away!
I agree with you. In a Portland tango festival, at the end of a class we had to dance and somehow I ended dancing with other man. He was a fantastic dancer he could follow me much better than the followers I was used to dance with. And for some reason I did not enjoy this perfect dance. Elemer in Redmond > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tango-l@mit.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:05:50 > -0500> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Keep away!> > Oh dear, dear Igor. Now I feel > truly sorry for you. If the items in Victor's list > have nothing to do with > your dancing, I can only assume you're dancing Ballroom > Tango. They have > everything to do with Tango. But yeah, I guess you won't feel > those things > from a paint brush, broom, etc.> > I'll be dancing tonight and hope to feel > everything in Victor's list with every > single partner. And, yes, I'll even > be dancing under the watchful eye of my wife. > Fortunately, she also > understands what makes Tango so different from every other > dance. Yes, > Tango is a dance - but it's a dance with feeling. > > Keith, HK> > On Fri Dec > 28 12:02 , "Igor Polk" sent:> > >This has nothing to do with dancing.> >> > >And it is better to make a clear distinction.> >> >A dancer like to dance. > Everything else is irrelevant.> >> >Igor Polk.> >> >> >1. they embrace you > with tenderness> >2. you can feel their heart beating> >3. you can feel them > breathing> >4. they are warm> >5. if you do something inventive or > particularly musical you get a small> >smile or sometimes a sigh> >6. the > smell of them when you are both working hard and you both start to> >sweat> > >7. the way they hold you for a moment after a beautiful dance before they> > >release you and step away> > > > ___> Tango-L mailing list> > Tango-L@mit.edu> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l _ i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Call the police! The "Insult Bullies" are here!
No wonder that many of my tango friends don't read the tango-L. (They tell me it is boring). Elemer in Redmond. > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:01:53 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > Tango-L@mit.edu> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Call the police! The "Insult Bullies" > are here!> > Wow TFH, I am suprised that you thought my response was> > directed at you. From your various postings, I have> believed that you have > in fact experienced the sort of> synergy I describe. The parragraph that you > find so> personally insulting is in fact intended to refute the> assertion > that "This dance is a monologue, like it or not,> adorned by some additions > from the follower." That's why I> quoted that part of someone else's (not > your) post. Unless> you agree with the dance as monologue assertion, I don't> > see any way to connect my comments to you or your posts.> > Likewise, my > comments about tools and their limits were not> directed toward you. The > wording of your original post> could have been interpreted as objectifying > women, but you> quickly clarified that you were describing visualization> > execises. To me at least, that was sufficient explanation.> But the thread > wandered into a wierd battle of the sexes> direction. While you have made it > clear that it was not> your intention to objectify women, it is also clear > from> some of the responses that some men do so, or at least that> many women > feel objectified. Again, unless you consider> women to be merely tools, I > don't see any way to connect my> comments to you or your posts.> > TFH, and > anyone else who feels insulted by my ideas,> please, reread the post before > flying into a rage. Maybe> it's not about you at all.> > Sean> > PATangoS - > Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society> Our Mission: To make Argentine Tango > Pittsburgh’s most popular social dance!> http://patangos.home.comcast.net/> > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > ___> Tango-L mailing list> > Tango-L@mit.edu> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l _ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Leaving for BsAs tomorrow
Is this a joke? Are we recent converts to tango, realizing that the foreigners are better dancers than us? Elemer, Redmond > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tango-l@mit.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:43:59 > -0600> Subject: [Tango-L] Leaving for BsAs tomorrow> > I am especially > interested in the level of dancing. I would think that a > better > understanding of the dance and focus on improvement throughout the > world, > that the level has gotten higher. I am also thinking that the > Argentines > who are recent converts to tango are realizing the high level of > dancing of > the foreigners and are "stepping up", so to speak. This may be > great news > for us visitors.> > I will have a group with me again, and it is always great > to see this > beautiful city through the eyes of the newcomers.> > Lois > Donnay> Minnepaolis, MN > > > > ___> Tango-L mailing list> > Tango-L@mit.edu> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
