Re: [Tango-L] [SA] RE: San Diego close embrace Festival 2010 and floorcraft

2010-01-07 Thread Have to Tango

In reply to Tony's mail about the San Diego festival: 
 
 
 Maybe I'm missing something, somewhere... but, I've visited and carefully 
 read each page. I can NOT find the term 'close embrace' used anywhere on the 
 site... 
 

The website for the upcoming San Diego New Year's festival does not claim that 
it is close embrace, nor is there any hint of it.  The ad for this past New 
Year's festival (http://tango.org/festivals/sandiego/2009sdtangofest) says (and 
I quote):
 

The 3rd Annual San Diego Tango Festival will be a Southern California treat 
for all tango dancers who love the social tango popular in the milongas of 
Buenos Aires: close, subtle  romantic.
 
Further down on the page, the site claims that San Diego has a great close 
embrace community. Thus, it is easy to see --through a bit of reading between 
the lines perhaps paired with a bit of wishful thinking ; ) -- how one might 
get the impression that the festival was intended only for traditional 
close-embrace milonguero dancers.  I certainly did get this impression upon 
first reading of the ad some months ago. And this is not because I am looking 
for such an exclusive festival.
 
Critically read, however, the ad nowhere actually promises a close embrace 
festival. Indeed, some of the teachers listed prefer a changing embrace and 
even excel at both open and closed styles. Brigitta Winkler, for example, is 
expert at dancing both traditional milonguero and dynamic, improvisational open 
figures, while one of the other teachers listed prefers a close-embrace nuevo 
milonguero style. I wonder whether a variety of styles and figures were taught 
at the festival's classes.
 
I agree with Tony that poor floor craft has become an almost universal 
phenomenon.  I have danced in many different cities and countries, and I have 
suffered my fair share of injuries, most (perhaps all) caused by a 
close-embrace dancer moving against the line of dance (or else just not paying 
attention). The danger increases markedly as soon as a dramatic work by 
Pugliesi is played. 
 
A few accidents in the past were unfortunately the result of my accepting a 
dance from an unfamiliar (close-embrace) leader, who was himself clueless about 
floorcraft.  As a follower, I now dance only with leaders I have already 
observed; and I have long ceased feeling that I must accept a dance because I 
have to be nice.  
 
I feel it is as much the follower's obligation to stamp out bad floorcraft as 
anyone's.  Followers must turn down (or abandon) a leader who can neither 
protect her/him from poor dancers nor avoid causing harm and inconvenience to 
others. And if, in spite of my best efforts, I find myself dancing with a poor 
or unjudicious navigator, until l I have the opportunity to politely dump 
him/her (with a thank-you after the first song), I keep my eyes open, execute 
no gancho nor any off-the-floor boleo, no matter how s/he tries to force one. 
 
Usually said leader immediately assumes I am unable to follow or am not 
experienced enough to execute the figure which, ironically, sometimes leads to 
his trying to teach it to me!!! But if enough followers do the same, s/he'll 
get it sooner or later or be put out of business.
 
A very fine dancer once told me that his first priority on the dancefloor was 
to protect his partner. Apart from the incredible trust and connection a 
follower can have with such a leader, just imagine what it would do for general 
floorcraft if all leaders made this a priority, regardless of their style!
  
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Re: [Tango-L] [SA] RE: San Diego close embrace Festival 2010 and floorcraft

2010-01-07 Thread Tom Stermitz
On Jan 6, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Have to Tango wrote:
 In reply to Tony's mail about the San Diego festival:

 Maybe I'm missing something, somewhere... but, I've visited and  
 carefully read each page. I can NOT find the term 'close embrace'  
 used anywhere on the site...

 The website for the upcoming San Diego New Year's festival does not  
 claim that it is close embrace, nor is there any hint of it.  The ad  
 for this past New Year's festival 
 (http://tango.org/festivals/sandiego/2009sdtangofest 
 ) says (and I quote):

 The 3rd Annual San Diego Tango Festival will be a Southern  
 California treat for all tango dancers who love the social tango  
 popular in the milongas of Buenos Aires: close, subtle  romantic.

(1) Isn't ALL tango close-embrace? Not counting stage tango, of  
course. Nuevo and Salon sometimes have a variable embrace, but they  
are also danced very close.

(2) Isn't ALL tango improvisational? Not counting stage tango, again.

(3) At this point 99% of us should agree that good dancing and good  
navigation are the issue, not style.

I've been the organizer of the Denver and San Diego festivals for 10  
years. Most people have a good time, and we get a lot of repeat  
dancers year after year. Dance quality is good but not perfect.  
Setting high aspirations is great, but expecting perfection is a sure  
set-up for failure.

Originally I advertised the festivals as Milonguero, which was quite  
controversial in 1999 because at the time, 90% of tango teachers were  
stage dancers teaching stage figures. The Tango-L arguments went back  
and forth as to whether Milonguero Style even existed, or was just a  
marketing term. I had visited Argentina several times and it was  
obvious that tango AS DANCED IN ARGENTINA, was completely different  
from the stage figures presented in the US. I wanted people to know  
they could find that Buenos Aires experience in the US.

These days, branding the Denver and San Diego festivals as presenting:  
social tango popular in the milongas of Buenos Aires: close subtle   
romantic should be obvious to everyone, and shouldn't be  
controversial. It says nothing about style, but says everything you  
need to know.


THE MILONGA as a TRANSCENDENT DANCE CONTAINER

How do you create the social dance conditions for people to achieve  
transcendent dance experiences? That is a much more interesting  
question than style or advertising verbiage.

I've been talking with a friend who has experience with ritual dance,  
who believes that concepts of ritual and trance are essential for  
understanding the tango dance experience. Most (many? some?) tango  
dancers have experienced the tango high, that zen experience where  
time melts away into intuitive music and movement. It is like you are  
dancing consciously and unconsciously with your partner and the whole  
crowd.

In terms from  ritual dance, the milonga is the ritual container, and  
the DJ is the master of the ceremony or leader of the drum circle.

How does an organizer set it up the right conditions? Can you really  
control things or just encourage them?

(1) Physical space: Separate the dance floor from the sitting area.  
Hotel ballrooms are surprisingly good, with carpeted area for tables  
clearly delineated from the wooden dance floor.

(2) Social space: Keep pedestrians separate from dancers; tables face  
the dance floor on multiple sides; convenient ebb and flow on and off  
the floor; tandas and cortinas to provide consistent social rules,  
(not rules really, agreed-upon structure?).

(3) Crowd energy: Transcendence is a personal experience, but crowd  
energy is a powerful driver. Achieving an intuitive psychological  
experience comes from having an intuitive interaction with the dancers  
around you. This requires a certain density of dancers on the dance  
floor. Empty floors allow room for people to avoid interacting with  
the other dancers and provides space for some leaders to rocket  
around. Super-crowded conditions require higher skills from the  
leader. Merely very-crowded is good because everybody has to dance  
about the same consistent speed and rhythm.

(4) DJ: The DJ has to know what it means to create the transcendent  
for the participants: Ebb and flow of energy from song-to-song and set- 
to-set; Arc of energy across the evening; psychological feeling of the  
songs chosen;

(5) Expectations: The crowd has to know transcendence is both a  
possibility and be seeking it. That means some high percentage of the  
participants need to be pretty good and they need to have experienced  
tango transcendence.

I think some of the expressions of tango road rage is a valid concern  
about disturbances to the tango dance-trance. These criticisms have  
frequently been directed at practitioners of Nuevo, but in truth, good  
nuevo dancers have the same goal as good milonguero or salon dancers.



Tom Stermitz
http://www.tango.org
Denver, CO 80207




Re: [Tango-L] [SA] RE: San Diego close embrace Festival 2010 and floorcraft

2010-01-07 Thread Sandhill Crane
Tom, I'm in agreement with pretty much everything you said.
Also let me take this opportunity to thank you for organizing
the Denver and San Diego festivals; I have many happy memories.

 I think some of the expressions of tango road rage is a
 valid concern about disturbances to the tango dance-trance.

I gather you are trying to create a context in which
tango trance experiences are possible, but the conditions
on the floor in SD made it very difficult.

I'm searching for words here; let me try this:
It's in your interest to figure out a way to restore some
semblance of sanity on the dance floor.



  


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