Re: [Tango-L] Advice from a 3 1/2 yr old.
--- On Wed, 4/27/11, Sharon Pedersen wrote: > > Early on in my tango dancing life, I usually felt out of > balance when > dancing. I had one fantastic dance with someone, in > which I felt fabulously > balanced and did all sorts of fast stuff. I'm not > sure exactly how he did > it, but I have always thought that it's because he could > sense when I was > about to be out of balance, and then subtly moved to a > place so that by the > time I put my foot down, I was in balance instead. > Extraordinarily > wonderful. Or he was helping to hold you up using his right hand. When it's done right, the woman isn't very aware of what he's doing. Trini ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Advice from a 3 1/2 yr old.
> Early on in my tango dancing life, I usually felt out of balance when > dancing. I had one fantastic dance with someone, in which I felt fabulously > balanced and did all sorts of fast stuff. I'm not sure exactly how he did > it, but I have always thought that it's because he could sense when I was > about to be out of balance, and then subtly moved to a place so that by the > time I put my foot down, I was in balance instead. Extraordinarily > wonderful. Part two of being a good leader—once you learn how to lead her, learn how to follow her. Charles ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Advice from a 3 1/2 yr old.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Alexis Cousein wrote: > And if you mistakenly dance something they can't handle, then it's > actually still your responsibility to be graceful about it and to > resolve it without them ever noticing that you meant to dance > something else. And if you want to become better, it's also better > to then think not that "they can't handle it" but to ask yourself > if there's a better way to lead it that would be harder to > misinterpret (yet still gentle: leading is still inviting, > not throwing around). Early on in my tango dancing life, I usually felt out of balance when dancing. I had one fantastic dance with someone, in which I felt fabulously balanced and did all sorts of fast stuff. I'm not sure exactly how he did it, but I have always thought that it's because he could sense when I was about to be out of balance, and then subtly moved to a place so that by the time I put my foot down, I was in balance instead. Extraordinarily wonderful. __Sharon ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Advice from a 3 1/2 yr old.
On 24/04/2011 08:05, Mario wrote: > 3. dont be nice while dancing...be nice before and after the dance but > women will not respect > a man who is 'nice' while dancing. I guess I must be universally reviled ;). Let's just say, in the unlikely event this isn't obvious troll-bait, that I couldn't disagree more. Women won't respect a man who isn't leading, but leading well isn't the opposite of "nice", it's the opposite of "weak". In fact, you have to lead exactly because you have an obligation to be nice. Dancing with a weak leader is anything but nice. Doesn't mean you can't challenge them. But challenging them is making them dance something they *can* handle but that's surprising to them, not making them dance something they *can't* handle. And if you mistakenly dance something they can't handle, then it's actually still your responsibility to be graceful about it and to resolve it without them ever noticing that you meant to dance something else. And if you want to become better, it's also better to then think not that "they can't handle it" but to ask yourself if there's a better way to lead it that would be harder to misinterpret (yet still gentle: leading is still inviting, not throwing around). > that's what you have got to get to believe that you have the > right to manage as you wish...good luck! With that attitude, you'll need all the luck you can get yourself. You have no right to manage except the right granted to you by the follower. Treat her with disrespect and you'll soon have no rights at all (at least with respect to that one follower). ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Advice from a 3 1/2 yr old.
Mario: I hope you're joking. How do you know you "wowed" your partner? Leading is NOT the same thing as controlling. A good leader doesn't LET a woman "add stuff." Dancing is a dialogue and the woman should fell free to "add stuff" whenever she wants and the man should give her a chance to finish. I'm not aware women want to be "challenged." My experience is women want to be respected for their skill level. A man doesn't have the "RIGHT to her vulnerability." Michael Moving to New York - Original Message - From: Mario Now that I've just had the best tanga of my life. And I pulled it off alone (no reference to masturbating) I really wowed a dancer who was presented to me by a professional.. So,now, I can point to all my previous mistakes and call them genius ! 1. spend your first year or two dancing alone, women only complicate things. 2. dance with women at milongas but ignore their boredom and bad manners you will soon do an end run around such mamadas. 3. dont be nice while dancing...be nice before and after the dance but women will not respect a man who is 'nice' while dancing. 4. give them something that they cannot quite handle.. at the end of the third dance when they finally get it..they will feel great about it all. 5. don't make it easy for them...they want a challenge..and if they are really good, dancing a good dance will not make any impressionso, throw them around a bit when they least expect it. 6. let them add stuff now and then...especially during the final chord... after all, they do have something to contribute.. 7. However, the ZING of the woman's dance is her complete vulnerability...and that's what you have got to get to believe that you have the right to manage as you wish...good luck! ... ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Advice from a 3 1/2 yr old.
Now that I've just had the best tanga of my life. And I pulled it off alone (no reference to masturbating) I really wowed a dancer who was presented to me by a professional..of course she had no clue as to my level of dance... and I danced the tanga of my life.. So,now, I can point to all my previous mistakes and call them genius ! (This treatise can also be titled.. 'How to treat aliens while dancing'.) OK..here we goadvice for newbies from a successful 3 1/2 yr old. 1. spend your first year or two dancing alone, women only complicate things. 2. dance with women at milongas but ignore their boredom and bad manners you will soon do an end run around such mamadas. 3. dont be nice while dancing...be nice before and after the dance but women will not respect a man who is 'nice' while dancing. 4. give them something that they cannot quite handle.. at the end of the third dance when they finally get it..they will feel great about it all. 5. don't make it easy for them...they want a challenge..and if they are really good, dancing a good dance will not make any impressionso, throw them around a bit when they least expect it. 6. let them add stuff now and then...especially during the final chord... after all, they do have something to contribute.. 7. However, the ZING of the woman's dance is her complete vulnerability...and that's what you have got to get to believe that you have the right to manage as you wish...good luck! ... http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=734224171 www.youtube.com/user/nacotete www.theopendoorway.org/audiovisual.html "Life expands or contracts in direct proportion to one's courage." -Anais Nin "The ultimate aim for every human being is to be immensely creative"-Norman Mailer ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
