Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
As long as we are all posting, I thought I'd share something I have done a little while ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9jjykTpO7c please note the hand movement, the leg bounce, especially the booty shake. What the heck, how about see how we smile and have fun. Cheers Moti ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
Let's encourage his alter ego, the Trini fellow. Please, post the "sublimation" demo for the rest of us. I'm burning to learn! Jean-Pierre S. --- - Original Message - From: "Iron Logic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tango-L" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc. >>> > But how to defend your point? >>> > Huck, be brave, just post your video :)..bring it , > don't be shy:)). > > > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc. > To: "Tango-L" > Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 12:17 AM > > Sean Here, > > Your criticism is spot on Huck. But how to defend your point? How would > someone > who has never experienced sublimation understand what is missing when they > "groove"? IMHO, you have a better chance of explaining color to a > blind man. > > Sean > > PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society Our Mission: To make > Argentine > Tango Pittsburgh’s most popular social dance! > http://patangos.home.comcast.net/ > > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Huck Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deer lowered, he waves his left arm around more than a drunk partygoer > doing > the chicken dance at a wedding reception. > > Huck > > > > > ___ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > ___ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
Monsieur Trini Sean, Why don't you teach me and the rest of those you know so well, the "sublimation" Wh! You must be something! I can't wait to learn from you. In the meantime, I hope you were able to comprehend the last lesson I expose to you in my last e-mail. Your question and point were so full of indignant ignorance. By the way, where could I actually see you "sublimation" demonstrated on a video clip? Please, send me a link. I lve to learn!!! Jean-Pierre S. --- - Original Message - From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tango-L" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc. > Sean Here, > > Your criticism is spot on Huck. But how to defend your point? How would > someone who has never experienced sublimation understand what is missing > when they "groove"? IMHO, you have a better chance of explaining color to > a blind man. > > Sean > > PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society Our Mission: To make > Argentine Tango Pittsburgh’s most popular social dance! > http://patangos.home.comcast.net/ > > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Huck Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deer lowered, he waves his left arm around more than a drunk partygoer > doing the chicken dance at a wedding reception. > > Huck > > > > > ___ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
>> But how to defend your point? >> Huck, be brave, just post your video :)..bring it , don't be shy:)). --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Trini y Sean (PATangoS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc. To: "Tango-L" Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 12:17 AM Sean Here, Your criticism is spot on Huck. But how to defend your point? How would someone who has never experienced sublimation understand what is missing when they "groove"? IMHO, you have a better chance of explaining color to a blind man. Sean PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society Our Mission: To make Argentine Tango Pittsburgh’s most popular social dance! http://patangos.home.comcast.net/ --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Huck Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Deer lowered, he waves his left arm around more than a drunk partygoer doing the chicken dance at a wedding reception. Huck ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
Sean Here, Your criticism is spot on Huck. But how to defend your point? How would someone who has never experienced sublimation understand what is missing when they "groove"? IMHO, you have a better chance of explaining color to a blind man. Sean PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society Our Mission: To make Argentine Tango Pittsburgh’s most popular social dance! http://patangos.home.comcast.net/ --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Huck Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Deer lowered, he waves his left arm around more than a drunk partygoer doing the chicken dance at a wedding reception. Huck ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
Huck Kennedy, Let's go point by point. You seem to sharp for me. Please, bear with me. 1/ Are you a poor dancer? Just checking. > > Indeed. Mr. Sighe unwittingly mentioned it himself above when he > said "rhythm in their bodies," the elephant in the room being, "not in > their arms." Find me an Argentine instructor who advocates that sort > of arm movement and I'll gladly reconsider my opinion. 2/ A stiff body will not comprehend what having rhythm in the body means or implies. I would submit to you that a movement in the arm is perfectly fine AS LONG AS : a/ it does not negatively impact the partner. In fact, if both partners are in sync, they will BOTH participate in that rhythmic adornment, thus, DANCING together. b/ It's not done all the time, but just from time to time to increase the grooving (but then again, "increase the grooving" would be foreign to a stiff body). > >> Why don't you post a clip of Huck dancing (anything) for the rest of us. >> Would you? > > This is as good a time as any to discuss posting videos to > Tango-L, since over the past few months it seems to have become the > latest rage. 3/ Huck Kennedy, don't think that every one on this list suffer from the same disease you suffer from (whatever it might be). I personnaly do ENJOY all the videos posted by other dancers. It is great to see people having fun with their thing. You can always use the "delete" button to avaoid watching. That's what an adult would do, in my opinion. Stop the whinning about people expressing their freedom of expression. > > First of all, let's dispense with the ridiculous before moving > onto the sublime. For those who say, "Oh yeah, oh yeah, well let's > see your video if you're so smart!!," I would ask, what are you going > to do for your next parlor trick, ask film critic Roger Ebert to post > an example of his latest movie, since he has so much to say about > other people's movies? > > Secondly, it would never even occur to me or the many people I > know who are good dancers to post videos of themselves on the > internet, as though we were somehow special--but hey, to each his own. > If we did, however, we would not expect ourselves to be immune to > critique, or get all upset and indignant when it came. If we found > the critique useful, we'd apply it and be thankful for having received > it; if not, we'd just ignore it. > > So--what are we on Tango-L supposed to do with all these videos > people keep posting? What is the point of posting them, if we can't > use them as a teaching exercise and discuss what we like and what we > don't like about them? Is this like in kindergarten where everybody > gets a trophy? > > What are we Tango-L readers to make of all these videos, when we > see dancing at least as good if not better everytime we go to a > festival, or in many cases, every time we go to our own local > milongas, week in and week out? 3/ Huck Kennedy, once again, we live in a FREE society. You got that? If you want to attck someone (notice how different is an "attck" from a "criticism"), be strong enough to sustain your attack, when put on the spot. In other words, some scoundrels who have populated fora on the Net for too long, just love to attack other people behind their ridiculous nicknames, but cannot offer any clip of themselves dancing anything, to the rest of us. Then, all of a sudden, you encounter them at a milonga, you watch them "dance" and you just shake your head! Stop the whinning and just post a clip to us Cordially, Jean-Pierre Sighe - ___ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Jean-Pierre Sighe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Huck sounds like one of these stiff dudes I see here and there, with no > rhythm in their bodies... therefore terribly boring to watch. DOH!!! That finally explains the mystery of why all these women keep calling me "Stiffy." :-) > Dancing means... DANCING. Indeed. Mr. Sighe unwittingly mentioned it himself above when he said "rhythm in their bodies," the elephant in the room being, "not in their arms." Find me an Argentine instructor who advocates that sort of arm movement and I'll gladly reconsider my opinion. > Why don't you post a clip of Huck dancing (anything) for the rest of us. > Would you? This is as good a time as any to discuss posting videos to Tango-L, since over the past few months it seems to have become the latest rage. First of all, let's dispense with the ridiculous before moving onto the sublime. For those who say, "Oh yeah, oh yeah, well let's see your video if you're so smart!!," I would ask, what are you going to do for your next parlor trick, ask film critic Roger Ebert to post an example of his latest movie, since he has so much to say about other people's movies? Secondly, it would never even occur to me or the many people I know who are good dancers to post videos of themselves on the internet, as though we were somehow special--but hey, to each his own. If we did, however, we would not expect ourselves to be immune to critique, or get all upset and indignant when it came. If we found the critique useful, we'd apply it and be thankful for having received it; if not, we'd just ignore it. So--what are we on Tango-L supposed to do with all these videos people keep posting? What is the point of posting them, if we can't use them as a teaching exercise and discuss what we like and what we don't like about them? Is this like in kindergarten where everybody gets a trophy? What are we Tango-L readers to make of all these videos, when we see dancing at least as good if not better everytime we go to a festival, or in many cases, every time we go to our own local milongas, week in and week out? Huck ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
Yes, I would like to see a video of Huck not 'waving his arms around' and then we could all decide if it qualifies as 'dancing'. I liked these videos because they definately were dancing. I found it refreshing that some people actually dance to tango music. ...that is; instead of posing, instructing, doing acrobatics, thinking/planning a lot, suffering or getting the hoop ready for the follow to jump thru, etc, etc. ..'Tango Amerikano' is such a repository for perfectionist one-up-manship and Nerd engineering...duh. When do they dance? Well, for sure they will sit out the Milonga songs. ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
Huck sounds like one of these stiff dudes I see here and there, with no rhythm in their bodies... therefore terribly boring to watch. Dancing means... DANCING. Why don't you post a clip of Chuck dancing (anything) for the rest of us. Would you? Jean-Pierre Sighe - - Original Message - From: "Huck Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc. > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Ernest Williams > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 2008/9/9 Jean-Pierre Sighe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKfu2wOG154 >> >> Love the clip of Jean-Pierre and Bianca having fun at the docks just like >> old Argentina. > > I thought the volcada lesson posted last week was very good, but > I have to give a thumbs down on the URL above. Deer lowered, he waves > his left arm around more than a drunk partygoer doing the chicken > dance at a wedding reception. > > Huck > ___ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
Thank you Ernest, Great clips of you and Maricela too. We will contribute more :-) We do have our OUTDOOR MILONGAS at the Lake Merrit Park on the 1st and 3rd Saturday of the month (unless otherwise posted on our web site). Check out some pictures here: http://flickr.com/photos/elenadopiro/sets/72157605125863105/show/ http://www.tangomagdalena.com/Pictures_Galleries/Gallery5/index.html Tangamente, Jean-Pierre S. - Original Message - From: "Ernest Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc. > Love the clip of Jean-Pierre and Bianca having fun at the docks just like > old Argentina. There should be something regular done out there, like a > milonga or something. > > I have a few videos out there of various styles of tango including > candombera, canyenguero and funky milongas too. Check them out. > > http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ernest+maricela&search_type=&aq=f > > Ernest from Chicago > www.tangolifeinc.com > ___ > Tango-L mailing list > Tango-L@mit.edu > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l > ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
Re: [Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Ernest Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008/9/9 Jean-Pierre Sighe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKfu2wOG154 > > Love the clip of Jean-Pierre and Bianca having fun at the docks just like old > Argentina. I thought the volcada lesson posted last week was very good, but I have to give a thumbs down on the URL above. Deer lowered, he waves his left arm around more than a drunk partygoer doing the chicken dance at a wedding reception. Huck ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
[Tango-L] Milonga-Candombera, Canyenguero etc.
Love the clip of Jean-Pierre and Bianca having fun at the docks just like old Argentina. There should be something regular done out there, like a milonga or something. I have a few videos out there of various styles of tango including candombera, canyenguero and funky milongas too. Check them out. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ernest+maricela&search_type=&aq=f Ernest from Chicago www.tangolifeinc.com ___ Tango-L mailing list Tango-L@mit.edu http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/tango-l
