Re: [Tango-L] Misc:Missing Magic

2009-10-12 Thread Shahrukh Merchant
About a week ago, Robin Tara wrote:

 You know, I danced in the milongas of Buenos Aires, New York, Montreal, San
 Francisco, Boston and London beginning 1993.
 ...
 There was a magic then that has been missing for me in today's milongas.
 ...
 Things began to change drastically in the milongas of Buenos Aires around
 the time of the crash. (2001/2002)

I was actually expecting more responses to this email, well more than 
zero anyway. But I did want to respond myself since I identified a lot 
with what Robin says.

 So in about 2 years time, the balance of tourists to locals in
 the dance halls reversed completely.

This has no doubt change the dynamics significantly--the observers, by 
their presence and especially their vast numbers, have changed what it 
is that they have come to observe. Whether this is a good thing or a bad 
thing is besides the point (well, a different discussion, anyway), but 
it certainly has changed things.

 The milongas feel so different to me these days. 
...
 a group of men who
 really have been in the milongs for years, but rarely get up to dance. The
 there are the group from some European capital, a bunch of older folks from
 the midwest, a table of local guys who don't dance very well, a group of
 local women who don't dance very well. Lurking around the edges, men who
 can't catch anybody's eye and have decided to prey on the unsuspecting and
 longing to dance, middle aged women from the US. It just lacks some sort of
 mystery.

And depending on which milonga you go to, some of what you describe may 
not apply, or may apply with different demographics, but you're right 
that there was some sort of *something* that is now missing.

 Is it all because I see it more clearly now? Was it always this way and I
 was too enraptured to notice? No, I'm sure it was more full of the promise
 of adventure back then.

Ah, this is the question isn't it? Did the world really change around 
me, or did my perception of the world change? I drafted a similar 
article for Tango-L some months ago, let it sit on my desktop for 
several days while I tinkered with it, trying to convey satisfactorily 
what I wanted to say, but was never entirely satisfied with it, and so 
deleted it. But my conclusion was essentially the same: No, the change 
is real.

 Oh, I'm just rambling

I'm glad you posted this article even though you seemed to have had a 
similar problem managing to express the feeling to your satisfaction.

I'm guessing that, at this point, the majority of list members were not 
dancing in Buenos Aires at regular milongas (i.e., not counting just 
visiting for festivals) on a semi-regular basis pre-2001. But there is 
probably a significant minority who were. What's your feeling about this 
change? Do you dance less often in Buenos Aires for reasons you 
attribute to this change?

Shahrukh
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Re: [Tango-L] Misc:Missing Magic

2009-10-12 Thread macfroggy

 
Did the world really change around 
me, or did my perception of the world change?


 That's the crux of the question, isn't it?
Please tell me what in this world has not changed since 1993?

Whether it's the same as it was then or not isn't relevant, especially to 
people who came to tango much later. 

What is important still is that Buenos Aires offers a depth, an understanding, 
an immersion in tango that doesn't exist anywhere else. Like Nancy said, where 
a taxi driver will sing you his favorite tango at 2 a.m.

Take me, for example: last week on an excursion with tango tour clients to La 
Boca, where I've been a million times, the truth of living in a conventillo 
finally hit me--I could really see clearly what it meant to sing about the hard 
and crowded life there, a popular tango theme. There is always something to 
discover new here about tango.

Sure, it's not as it was in 1997 on my first trip here, when foreign dancers 
were a novelty. Maybe middle-aged foreign women are a dime-a-dozen today, and 
we are less special than we once were and are treated more like we are back 
home. After dancing tango for a decade or more, we are also different. This 
nostalgia for what used to be, that life, people, things, milongas aren't what 
they once were, is very tango!

But Buenos Aires will always be the Mecca of Tango.
And every serious dancer will make the pilgrimage one day.
It's worth it.

http://tangocherie.blogspot.com 



 



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[Tango-L] Misc:Missing Magic

2009-10-04 Thread robin tara
You know, I danced in the milongas of Buenos Aires, New York, Montreal, San
Francisco, Boston and London beginning 1993.
I missed Berlin, the other hotbed of tango at the time - big mistake, I'm
afraid.

There was a magic then that has been missing for me in today's milongas.

Things began to change drastically in the milongas of Buenos Aires around
the time of the crash. (2001/2002)

All of a sudden the regulars began staying away from the salons. They just
couldn't justify spending 5 pesos on something as frivolous as the milonga.
They needed to eat. The milongas began to suffer from lower attendance and
raised prices. The Cro Magnon disaster closed dance venues all over the
inner city. On the other hand, it became much cheaper for tourists to visit
Buenos Aires. So in about 2 years time, the balance of tourists to locals in
the dance halls reversed completely.

The milongas feel so different to me these days. Sitting in a Buenos Aires
milonga on a Friday night, I see the group from Japan at one of the primo
back tables - they don't dance tango yet, but they're ordering dinner! From
there to the right sit a table of local (mostly) women, a group of men who
really have been in the milongs for years, but rarely get up to dance. The
there are the group from some European capital, a bunch of older folks from
the midwest, a table of local guys who don't dance very well, a group of
local women who don't dance very well. Lurking around the edges, men who
can't catch anybody's eye and have decided to prey on the unsuspecting and
longing to dance, middle aged women from the US. It just lacks some sort of
mystery.

Is it all because I see it more clearly now? Was it always this way and I
was too enraptured to notice? No, I'm sure it was more full of the promise
of adventure back then.

Oh, I'm just rambling

Interested in what others think







-- 
Robin Tara

http://www.taratangoshoes.com
http://www.tangotique.com
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