Re: [Tango-L] subjects that never etc.

[Crrtango]

Robin wrote:

Especially interested in two holds that I observe these days in the
milongas in BA.
First the draping of the woman's left arm down across the shoulder of
the man with elbow pointed at the ceiling and the other with the
woman's left arm placed very low, almost around the man's waist.

I see the draping left arm with the elbow up often in NYC these days. Some of 
the women I have danced with do it...mostly the younger dancers.  It looks a 
little awkward and mannered to me. Don't see the low arm though. I just see 
them as another stylistic glitch.   They come and go. 
As to women looking to the right with the man, I prefer it and teach it. 
(Danel and Maria taught it that way, said it was classic tango de salon style 
whereas looking over the man's shoulder evolved more from the milonguero camp.) 
But I never correct a woman who doesn't do it, because most don't. 
It doesn't seem to be that much of an issue to me.   If I were choreographing 
something I might prefer the head that way, but at the social milonga it's no 
big deal.

See you next week, Robin ;-)

Cheers,
Charles

I have reasons for my preferences of course but they are mostly personal 
stylistic choices. I happen to think they look more elegant. We all have 
different 



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Re: [Tango-L] subjects that never etc.

[Tom Stermitz]

On Apr 2, 2008, at 1:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robin wrote:
 Especially interested in two holds that I observe these days  
 in the
 milongas in BA.
 First the draping of the woman's left arm down across the shoulder of
 the man with elbow pointed at the ceiling and the other with the
 woman's left arm placed very low, almost around the man's waist.

Personally, I think the elbow up and arm coming back down looks really  
weird. It also raises the shoulder which can have back injury  
consequences. My understanding is that these women are copying an  
individual style or one-off they saw someone in Buenos Aires do.

It's a common enough story: A new, pretty young thing becomes belle  
of the ball for the year, she has a personal quirk or distinctive  
mark, which gets copied and starts a new style.

I heard the same thing with the nose pressed into the leader's cheek.  
They saw someone do it, then copied it.

Women with their butt sticking up and arched lower back is another new  
style. On that one, all I can say is, these 20-somethings are simply  
not yet injured.


 As to women looking to the right with the man, I prefer it and teach  
 it.
 (Danel and Maria taught it that way, said it was classic tango de  
 salon style
 whereas looking over the man's shoulder evolved more from the  
 milonguero camp.)
 But I never correct a woman who doesn't do it, because most don't.
 It doesn't seem to be that much of an issue to me.   If I were  
 choreographing
 something I might prefer the head that way, but at the social  
 milonga it's no
 big deal.

 Cheers,
 Charles

In Buenos Aires I've seen the woman facing the same way as the man or  
different directions over each other's shoulders. Probably 75 or 85%  
look over each other's shoulders.

I don't have a stylistic opinion about either pose. But I am fairly  
short, so for me, the look the same direction is just not  
functional. It cuts of half of my vision. It also feels more  
asymmetric, which makes my back hurt.


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