GRID out of Range

[Michael L. Wilson]

Greetings,

 BUG: When I delete message really fast out of The Bat, I get a
 dialogue "GRID out of range."  This bug has been present for the
 last "every" version.  I have never seen a version where this bug
 did not persist.  When it happens, the message list is dead.   I
 must exit and restart the bat.  this is not good.

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Re[2]: 1.42 Beta/6 is available

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Simon,

S> Not in TB! main menu. Still Kludges & Shift+Ctrl+K (soon to be R
S> perhaps ;))

I guess, you are using International pack :-)


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Re[2]: Text Attachments

[tracer]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:38:43 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, March 23, 2000, 9:38:43 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:


> Hello tracer,

> On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:05:28 +0700GMT (23/03/2000, 09:05 +0800GMT),
> tracer wrote:

t>> try reading it in your wordpad Offline (g)

> Of course it's on my home computer, and I'm in the office now. :-(
> Anyway, DOC files are associated with Word, not Wordpad, on my system.
> Can you open it with Word?

I donot install word in MY system.
Or Excel which doesnt know how to add numbers together
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Re: Text Attachments

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello tracer,

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:05:28 +0700GMT (23/03/2000, 09:05 +0800GMT),
tracer wrote:

t> try reading it in your wordpad Offline (g)

Of course it's on my home computer, and I'm in the office now. :-(
Anyway, DOC files are associated with Word, not Wordpad, on my system.
Can you open it with Word?

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Re: Serious Database Problem

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Keith Russell,

Responding  to your article on Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 09:56:23 GMT
-0700 (which was 23/03/2000 23:56 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

KR> After reading on the beta list that the serious problems had finally
KR> been  solved, I decided yesterday to finally upgrade my version 1.41
KR> TB  to  1.42 Beta 5. I have a LOT of messages. A while ago, based on
KR> the  suggestions  on  the  TB  mailing  list,  I created and Archive
KR> account and copied many of my messages there, but have unfortunately
KR> gotten behind, and my main account has far too many messages.

KR> In any case--I did back up my messages, but only the MAIL folder, to
KR> save space. I downloaded the beta and executed it; it hung while
KR> converting folder 44 of 114. I tried again, with the same result.

KR> This  morning,  I  freed  up  some  more  space on the hard disk and
KR> downloaded  the  beta again. When I ran it, I got the same result as
KR> before: hanging in folder 44.

As  my  experience in the past, before I move The Bat! from one Computer
to another, at first I change setting of file attachment from "separate"
to  "message bodies", then after exit, start and exit again I'm ready to
go to 1.42 beta.

Try it, perhaps some of your attachment making problem in conversion.

KR> Could this be a virtual memory problem?

It might be, in NT we can check this more details, dunno on Win9x.


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Re[3]: Text Attachments Test

[tracer]

Hello phil,
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:47:56 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, March 23, 2000, 2:47:56 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
phil wrote:


t>> Hello phil,
t>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:01:07 -0800 GMT your local time,
t>> which was Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 7:01:07 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
t>> phil wrote:



>>> Echelon.txt  Base64 12470 bytes

>>> Notice how you wouldn't know the Original Filename once you receive this...

t>> Why not?
t>> I see 2 tabs, click on the one numbered 2 and right click and do
t>> save-as...
> I wonder wat the RFC's Say about the original filename.  Not that I
> really Care, but I can see that eventually with a bunch of txt files,
> someone can have a bad day pickin out names for new files.

agreed. Attachments should be attachments with a name one can
recognise and they really should be all treated the same way.


t>> By the way, your sample text triggered the security on my
t>> server...
> don't feel bad, I just lost my linux partition on ACCIDENT!!! Argh!
> no warning, I was just plain stupid.


No problem, I see them doing that in the development groups all the
time..

I presume you have a linux on a mainly windows hard disk???
Try it the best way.. First Master is linux, set lilo to go to first
slave (ie win98)  by default and after that you can reinstall 98/nt
OR linux without messing the other one up.. as many times as you want!
Set in Linux modes for Window drives to auto and tou have access and
there is a utility to run under windows the other way around
If you shared them on the same drive its amazing how many times
systems get corrupted...





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Re: Text Attachments Test

[Jerry Cook]

Hello

Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 12:01:07 PM, you wrote:


p> Personally I don't use the DOC format anymore, but I can confirm that
p> the txt file is actually sent, but there is no icon to *save as* once
p> you receive it.  It is however in a second window and still can be
p> saved..   maybe an example is needed .. ;o)

p> Echelon.txt  Base64 12470 bytes

p> Notice how you wouldn't know the Original Filename once you receive this...

Thanks for everybody's response - just to confirm Phil, my symptoms
sound exactly the same as yours.


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Re: Text Attachments Test

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello phil,

Responding  to your article on Wednesday, March 22, 2000 at 04:01:07 GMT
-0800 (which was 22/03/2000 19:01 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

>>> I have a problem reading .txt attachments using TB 1.42/b5. When I
>>> receive an email with a .txt attachment TB appears to recognise that an
>>> attachment is present (The little attachment indicator is shown in the
>>> message list), but there is no file icon displayed to enable me to
>>> open/save the file. Other file types appear to attach OK.

>>> I  noticed  a  thread earlier relating to *sending* txt attachments.
>>> Sending  appears  to  be  OK  -  I can send an attachment from TB to
>>> another mail client, but TB cannot *receive* them.

t>> I have one DOC attachment not showing me anything... if someone wants
t>> to see it to see whats wrong...

p> Personally I don't use the DOC format anymore, but I can confirm that
p> the txt file is actually sent, but there is no icon to *save as* once
p> you receive it.  It is however in a second window and still can be
p> saved..   maybe an example is needed .. ;o)

p> Echelon.txt  Base64 12470 bytes

p> Notice  how  you wouldn't know the Original Filename once you receive
p> this...

Aha   that's  is  the  answer,  why  I received *.log file as plain text
(it is ASCII text actually).
Humm...but  after  I  ask  resending to him, I receive it correctly ( as
attachment)...need further investigation ...eh.


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Text Attachments Test

[phil]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

t> Hello Jerry Cook,
t> On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:49:03 + GMT your local time,
t> which was Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 5:49:03 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
t> Jerry Cook wrote:


>> Hello Listers

>> I have a problem reading .txt attachments using TB 1.42/b5. When I
>> receive an email with a .txt attachment TB appears to recognise that an
>> attachment is present (The little attachment indicator is shown in the
>> message list), but there is no file icon displayed to enable me to
>> open/save the file. Other file types appear to attach OK.

>> I noticed a thread earlier relating to *sending* txt attachments.
>> Sending appears to be OK - I can send an attachment from TB to another
>> mail client, but TB cannot *receive* them.

>> Anyone else notice this since upgrading their message base.

>> Best regards

>> Jerry Cook
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

t> I have one DOC attachment not showing me anything... if someone wants
t> to see it to see whats wrong...
Personally I don't use the DOC format anymore, but I can confirm that
the txt file is actually sent, but there is no icon to *save as* once
you receive it.  It is however in a second window and still can be
saved..   maybe an example is needed .. ;o)

Echelon.txt  Base64 12470 bytes

Notice how you wouldn't know the Original Filename once you receive this...



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ECHELON's "forbidden" terms




  Explosives, guns, assassination, conspiracy, primers, detonators, Kakadan,
  initiators, main charge, nuclear charges, ambush, sniping, motorcade, IRS,
  BATF, jtf-6, mjtf, hrt, srt, hostages, munitions, weapons, TNT, rdx, amfo,
  hmtd, picric acid, silver itrite, mercury fulminate, presidential,
  motorcade, salt peter, charcoal, sulfur, c4, composition b, petn, lead
  azide, lead styphante, ddnp, tetryl, nitrocellulose, nitrostarch, mines,
  grenades, rockets, fuses, delay mechanism, mortars, rpg7, propellants,
  incendiaries,
  incendiary device, thermite, security forces, intelligence, agencies, hrt,
  resistance, psyops, infiltration, assault team, defensive elements,
  evasion,
  detection, mission, communications, the football, platter charge, shaped
  charges, m118, claymore, body armor, charges, shrapnel, timers, timing
  devices, boobytraps, detcord, pmk 40, silencers, Uzi, HK-MP5, AK-47, FAL,
  Jatti, Skorpion MP, teflon bullets, cordite, napalm, law, Stingers, RPK,
  SOCIMI 821 SMG, STEN, BAR, MP40, HK-G3,FN-MAG, RPD,PzB39, Air Force One,
  M60, RPK74, SG530, SG540, Galil arm, Walther WA2000, HK33KE, Parker-Hale
  MOD. 82, AKR, Ingram MAC10, M3, L34A1, Walther MPL, AKS-74, HK-GR6,
  subsonic
  rounds, ballistic media, special forces, JFKSWC, SFOD-D, SRT, Rewson,
  SAFE,
  Waihopai, INFOSEC, ASPIC, Information Security, SAI, Information Warfare,
  IW, IS, Privacy, Information Terrorism, Kenya,
  Terrorism Defensive Information, Defense Information Warfare, Offensive
  Information, Offensive Information Warfare, NAIA, SAPM, ECHELON ASTS,
  National Information Infrastructure, InfoSec, SAO, Reno, Compsec, JICS,
  Computer Terrorism, Firewalls, Secure Internet Connections, RSP, ISS, JDF,
  Passwords, NAAP, DefCon V, RSO, Hackers, Encryption, ASWS, Espionage,
  USDOJ,
  NSA, CIA, S/Key, SSL, FBI, Secret Service, USSS, Defcon, Military, White
  House, Undercover, NCCS, Mayfly, PGP, SALDV, PEM, resta, RSA, Perl-RSA,
  MSNBC, bet, AOL, AOL TOS, CIS, CBOT, AIMSX, STARLAN, 3B2, BITNET,
  Tanzania,
  SAMU, COSMOS, DATTA, E911, FCIC, HTCIA, IACIS, UT/RUS, JANET, ram, JICC,
  ReMOB, LEETAC, UTU, VNET, BRLO, SADCC, NSLEP, SACLANTCEN, FALN, 877,
  NAVELEXSYSSECENGCEN, BZ, CANSLO, CBNRC, CIDA, JAVA, rsta, Active X,
  Compsec
  97, RENS, LLC, DERA, JIC, rip, rb, Wu, RDI, Mavricks, BIOL, Meta-hackers,
  ^?, SADT, Steve Case, Tools, RECCEX, Telex, OTAN, monarchist, NMIC, NIOG,
  IDB, MID/KL, NADIS, NMI, SEIDM, BNC, CNCIS, STEEPLEBUSH, RG, BSS, DDIS,
  mixmaster, BCCI, BRGE, SARL, Military Intelligence, JICA, Scully, recondo,
  Flame, Infowar, Bubba, Freeh, Archives, ISADC, CISSP, undevil, jack,
  Investigation, JOTS, ISACA, NCSA, AS

Filter how-to finally written.

[Leif Gregory]

Hello users,

This is a cross-post from TBUDL for those who are subscribed to TBBETA
only.

***

For those of you who weren't following the filter thread...

Chris VanHonk's message finally convinced me to write the how-to on
filters that I promised to do ages ago. It's long, but very detailed.
I wrote it in a cpl of hours, so there are bound to be some mistakes.
Please take a look at it and let me know of the ones you find or any
omissions, or places where I could develop it more.







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Re: Text Attachments

[tracer]

Hello Jerry Cook,
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:49:03 + GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 5:49:03 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Jerry Cook wrote:


> Hello Listers

> I have a problem reading .txt attachments using TB 1.42/b5. When I
> receive an email with a .txt attachment TB appears to recognise that an
> attachment is present (The little attachment indicator is shown in the
> message list), but there is no file icon displayed to enable me to
> open/save the file. Other file types appear to attach OK.

> I noticed a thread earlier relating to *sending* txt attachments.
> Sending appears to be OK - I can send an attachment from TB to another
> mail client, but TB cannot *receive* them.

> Anyone else notice this since upgrading their message base.

> Best regards

> Jerry Cook
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have one DOC attachment not showing me anything... if someone wants
to see it to see whats wrong...
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Re: Message-ID

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Syafril,


SH> Congratulation !
SH> Well, from now on, we can expect better "Thread Mode" :-)


Thank you for reminding me this - I was about to forget about it due
to loads of other things :-)  Now it's in my ToDo list :-)

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Re: Outgoing filters and no received & created date in B/5

[Simon]

tracer, dia duit!

On 22/03/2000 you may or may not have meant to post the following to Simon:

I meant to post to TBUDL, not TBETA.

> But I have that on ALL mail if the date is current...

Yeah, I got this now Tracer. Thanks. I should probably engage that largish,
grey organ lurking inside of my skull a bit more often. I think it's called a
brain :)

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Re: Text Attachments

[Roel]

Hi Jerry

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:49:03 +GMT
   (which was 22/03/2000, 11:49 +0100GMT for me),

you wrote:

JC> I noticed a thread earlier relating to *sending* txt attachments.
JC> Sending appears to be OK - I can send an attachment from TB to
JC> another mail client, but TB cannot *receive* them.

can't confirm here: text-attachment shown as always...
however, for sending the attachment: the message in the 'sent' folder
doesn't have the attachment anymore...

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Re: Outgoing filters and no received & created date in B/5

[Simon]

Stefan, dia duit!

On 22/03/2000 you may or may not have meant to post the following to Simon:

> Today's date is always stripped to ease visual separation "fresh"
> messages from old ones...

Oh! I mean Oops. No, I mean thanks ;)



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Message-ID

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Member,

I saw that Reference Field already use "fine" format, see this :

From: Syafril Hermansyah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.42 Beta/5)
Organization: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: P . Y . di pau-mikro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Congratulation !
Well, from now on, we can expect better "Thread Mode" :-)

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Text Attachments

[Jerry Cook]

Hello Listers

I have a problem reading .txt attachments using TB 1.42/b5. When I
receive an email with a .txt attachment TB appears to recognise that an
attachment is present (The little attachment indicator is shown in the
message list), but there is no file icon displayed to enable me to
open/save the file. Other file types appear to attach OK.

I noticed a thread earlier relating to *sending* txt attachments.
Sending appears to be OK - I can send an attachment from TB to another
mail client, but TB cannot *receive* them.

Anyone else notice this since upgrading their message base.

Best regards

Jerry Cook
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Outgoing filters and no received & created date in B/5

[tracer]

Hello Simon,
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:05:33  + GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 5:05:33 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Simon wrote:


> A Chairde,

>I've just noticed that in TB! B/5 that all outgoing mail filtered to
>folders has the Date stripped from view from the 'received & created'
>fields. It is in the kludge. Very small image attached as example.

But I have that on ALL mail if the date is current...


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Re: Outgoing filters and no received & created date in B/5

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Simon,


S>I've just noticed that in TB! B/5 that all outgoing mail filtered to
S>folders has the Date stripped from view from the 'received & created'
S>fields. It is in the kludge. Very small image attached as example.

Today's date is always stripped to ease visual separation "fresh"
messages from old ones...


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[Simon]

A Chairde,

   I've just noticed that in TB! B/5 that all outgoing mail filtered to
   folders has the Date stripped from view from the 'received & created'
   fields. It is in the kludge. Very small image attached as example.

Slán anois, 

  Simon


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 filtered.jpg

Re[2]: kludges seem to have disapeared...

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Hello phil,
On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:51:17 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 11:51:17 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
phil wrote:


t>> Wednesday, March 22, 2000

t>> Hello TBBETA,

t>>  1.41 latest v5
t>>  Any idea what may have happened to the kludges to see the headers??

> I assume it's part of the same problem reported with the RFC-822
> headers not showing until you click on another message.

> Try the switch, click on another message (ANY message other than the
> one your reading.)

> It still there.   A glitch perhaps.

correct, spotted it after I send the message and likely connected..




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