Re: The Bat and IMAP : questions

[Olivier Mascia]

Dear Manfred,

On Thu, 3 May 2001 09:51:53 +0100, you wrote :

ME> I would postpone your tests as IMAP support is still very rudimentary.
ME> If one looks at Becky (sorry folks) their IMAP support looks a lot
ME> like what you're looking for.

I checked and tested Becky (sorry folks) during all this afternoon,
version 2.05 to be precise. Their IMAP support is *excellent* and
deserves 3 stars, maybe 4. If only The Bat! had Becky's IMAP4Rev1
support, I could declare my quest ended. Please RITLabs hear my pray !

I'm so missing IMAP in my day-to-day migration around 3 work-places that
I will most probably buy a license (about 40 USD I think) for Becky just
to have something perfectly decent to work with while The Bat evolves. 
(No I will not come back to Outlook Express, even paid for). I had also
paid a license for The Bat, so that's fine, I'll keep an alert eye to
this list and jump in for some more testing later. For POP3 connected
people, The Bat! stays, in my very personal opinion, far above all
others including that Becky. But for IMAP, it has to learn (and will do
I'm sure :-) !

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Re: 1.52 Beta/14

[Leo Zelevinsky]

Hi, Stefan,

Thank you Thank you Thank you!

On Thursday, May 03, 2001 you wrote:
ST> Hello All,

ST> [+] Move to the previously/next viewed message command
ST> (Alt+Left/Right)

That is *awesome*. It was one of the most important things on my wish
list for TB and you did it without me even having to ask :).

ST> [*] "Go to the next/previous unread message" command is now working
ST> across folders

Another wonderful addition! I haven't tested it yet, but it sounds
perfect!

Thank you very much!

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1.52 Beta/14

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello All,

  1.52 Beta/14 is available for download from
  http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb152b14.rar

  I was in mood for fixing bugs AND adding some features :-)

[+] Move to the previously/next viewed message command
(Alt+Left/Right)
[+] %REM="comment" macro for commenting templates
[+] %UPPER,%LOWER,%CAPTITAL,%CAPITALFIRST/%UCFIRST macros
[*] "Go to the next/previous unread message" command is now working
across folders
[-] Bug with conversion of national characters when the
"address_group_handle " construction used
[-] Using illegal file name characters in the name of a folder caused
problems
[-] Bug with messing up font style setting in editor preferences
[-] "Save attachment" and other dialogues were changing the current
directory causing problems with removable/network drives
[-] Template options of an address entry were not exported
[-] Automatic spell checker was switching on after setting up spell
checker settings/dictionaries

  

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Corrupted Messabe Base?

[Nick Andriash]

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Although I am using SecureBat! I'm wondering if the resolve to my problem
cannot be found here. For whatever reason, one of my Folders contains a
corrupted (?) message base. The error message I receive when I try to read
one of the read messages is:

"An error has occurred while reading the message base
C:\SecureBat!\Mail\Personal\EOOCBEA9.883\Messages.EBB
Do you want to repair this message base now."

If I hit the "Yes" button, there is a pause, but afterward I still cannot
read any message contained within that one Folder. I will get the same
error message on every single message. I can see the messages in the
Message List, but they are not showing in the preview pane. I have no idea
why this happened, and why only to this one Folder. There are about 400
read messages in it, with only 3 unread, but any new unread message that
arrives I can read without incident.

Can I use the mbepair.exe file? If so, how do you go about using it? I
have downloaded MBrepair.Zip and extracted the executable, but am leery to
go any further.

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Re[2]: Connection Centre layout - repost

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Thursday, May 03, 2001, 10:21:39 AM, Kevin wrote:

>>Not quite right, it has to do and to add: The British spelling
>>variant  stems from the French (does anyone remember William the
>>Conqueror and  1066?).

> Well, I wasn't around then so I don't remember him or the year 
> personally .


Centre is also the more French alternative to the American spelling of
Center.

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Re: Connection Centre layout - repost

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Dwight!

On Thursday, May 03, 2001 at 3:54:32 PM you wrote:

> Here is what I found at http://yourdictionary.com attributed to the
> Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary.

For the last post from me on this topic, please go to TBOT.



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Re: Connection Centre layout - repost

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Andrew,

On 03 May 2001 at  16:20:23 +0400 (which was 13:20 where I  live)
Andrew K. Lovetski wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone on TBBETA and made
these points:

MDP>> No, the correct "British" (I prefer "English" here) *is* Connection
MDP>> Centre. Connexion is not even in the dictionary here.

AKL> What a bad dictionary you have ;)

D'oh! I meant the spell checker dictionary for British English!
(Although the CSAPI from Office 97 does accept it as valid). I should
have been clearer.

AKL> A. S. Hornby's Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current
AKL> English (1988) says:

AKL> Connexion - occasional GB spelling for connection.

AKL> Lohn O. E. Clark's Word Perfect (A dictionary of current English
AKL> usage) - Harrap's Reference (1989) says:

AKL> -ection is the preferred spelling to -exion in such words as
AKL> confection, connection [snip] thus avoiding such combinations as
AKL> "in connexion with the election".

AKL> So, Marck, you are again completely right about the English usage
AKL> except for not having a good big dictionary. ;)

Not in my bedroom, anyway! ;-) Anyway, the main point is that,
although it may be valid English spelling it is very rarely used.

I think we can DH this thread now. The message (about the spelling
suggestion) has been delivered and debated. We can move on now.

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Re: Connection Centre layout - repost

[Kevin]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dierk Haasis 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Not quite right, it has to do and to add: The British spelling variant 
>stems from the French (does anyone remember William the Conqueror and 
>1066?).

Well, I wasn't around then so I don't remember him or the year 
personally .

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TMP files in TEMP directory by "Save as" function

[Marek Mikus]

Hello,
 In two days, I saved 3 messages as UNIX mailbox to C:\ directory by
 right click on message and "Save as" function. When I opened TEMP
 directory now, 3 bat.tmp are in it. I displayed them in viewer and
 they are those messages, which I saved.

 If I select MSG or TXT format in "Save as" dialog, file is not created
 and if I export this message by menu "Tools | Export to | Unix
 mailbox", TMP file is not created too - only, when I save it and select
 UNIX mailbox.

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Re: Auto-Format Bug?

[Andrew K. Lovetski]

Hello, Peter Palmreuther!

PP> csdscd sc cd dsc ds c dcdsscd dccd c dc dc cdc scdcdcdscd cd dsc scsdc
PP> dsds casdajdaskd as fdadc asd afd ads fd asdasfd asffs PLEASE_KEEP_ME!
PP> DELETE_ME_NOW DELETE_ME_LATER fassf s asas sasf

UP>> If you start pressing  at the beginning of
UP>> "DELETE_ME_NOW", you will see that you will be deleting
UP>> "PLEASE_KEEP_ME!" instead of "DELETE_ME_LATER", which I think
UP>> should be the correct behavior. Without Auto-Format you will
UP>> delete the text as expected.

PP> Sorry ... not confirmed over here ... *strange* ... "PLEASE_KEEP_ME!" is kept,
PP> "DELETE_ME_NOW" is deleted as expected ...

The bug is in the following: after deleting DELETE_ME_NOW the cursor
jumps to the beginning of the word PLEASE_KEEP_ME! instead of staying
at the beginning of the word DELETE_ME_LATER. So, if you want to
delete two words DELETE_ME_NOW and DELETE_ME_LATER, you'll actually
delete the words DELETE_ME_NOW and PLEASE_KEEP_ME!.

Surely a bug. Confirmed a hundred of times, I believe ;) by so many
people...

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Re: Connection Centre layout - repost

[Andrew K. Lovetski]

Hello, Marck D. Pearlstone!

DAC>> As to esthetics, I like the British spelling of Centre, but
DAC>> think you should go British on the whole name: Connexion Centre

MDP> No, the correct "British" (I prefer "English" here) *is* Connection
MDP> Centre. Connexion is not even in the dictionary here.

What a bad dictionary you have ;)

A. S. Hornby's Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English
(1988) says:

Connexion - occasional GB spelling for connection.

Lohn O. E. Clark's Word Perfect (A dictionary of current English
usage) - Harrap's Reference (1989) says:

-ection is the preferred spelling to -exion in such words as
confection, connection [snip] thus avoiding such combinations as "in
connexion with the election".


So, Marck, you are again completely right about the English usage
except for not having a good big dictionary. ;)

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Re[3]: Connection Centre layout - repost

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Thursday, May 03, 2001, 8:54:32 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote:

guess I should proofread better before posting
> The only time that I recall trying

unsuccessfully

>  to carry out a conversation in
> English with another native English speaker was with a sailor from
> Jamaica who I was visiting with in Barcelona years ago.  We found
> that his broken Italian and my broken Spanish worked better than our
> respective takes on the English language.



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Re[2]: Connection Centre layout - repost

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Thursday, May 03, 2001, 5:20:50 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

DAC>> As to esthetics, I like the British spelling of Centre, but
DAC>> think you should go British on the whole name: Connexion Centre

> No, the correct "British" (I prefer "English" here)

It's all "English" to me so "British" was intended to focus in on
usage in the UK or what one might hear on the BBC, as opposed to what
one might encounter in Sidney, Cape Town, Toronto or Chicago.  I
realize that on just the BBC, one might encounter Scots, Welch, etc.
and it also sounds lots differentin Ireland.  In that context London
and Liverpool sound lots different.

I remember a couple of occasions when I was little where I had to
translate for my grandfather - Manx- actually I had to repeat for
someone who was having trouble understanding my grandfather, although
I don't think he was hard to understand but some people aren't willing
or perhaps able to listen to anyone who sounds very different from
them.

The only time that I recall trying to carry out a conversation in
English with another native English speaker was with a sailor from
Jamaica who I was visiting with in Barcelona years ago.  We found that
his broken Italian and my broken Spanish worked better than our
respective takes on the English language.

> *is* Connection
> Centre. Connexion is not even in the dictionary here.

Here is what I found at http://yourdictionary.com attributed to the
Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary.

Main Entry: con.nex.ion
Pronunciation: k&-'nek-sh&n
chiefly British variant of CONNECTION

also try http://www.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/wn?connexion

and check it here http://www.onelook.com

I particularly like http://library.utoronto.ca/www/utel/ret/cawdrey_c.html
which is from ROBERT CAWDREY'S A TABLE ALPHABETICAL (1604) -includes definition 
(English) (30KB, indexed 14.04.2001)
Thanks to Raymond Siemens and I. Lancashire 
http://library.utoronto.ca/www/utel/ret/cawdrey0.html

but you can't find it here http://dictionary.cambridge.org/notfound.asp?word=connexion

At any rate, Connexion Centre just seems more elegant to me.  I note
that connexion and centre are both flagged by the spell checker here,
but I guess it's an "American" English specific speller because colour
is also a misspelling and so is organisation. If the unique "English"
English spellings are disappearing from the "English" English
dictionaries, I think that is too bad.

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Re[2]: 1.52 Beta/13 (IMAP)

[Ron Mura]

On Thursday, May 03, 2001, Graham Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Stefan
>
>> May be:
>>
>> [-] IMAP crash
> Yippeee... I'm back as a current TB! user. Seems to be fine here ow
> Stefan. Glad you stomped on that bug.

Fixed for me also.  Thanks, Stefan!

Ron

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Re: Connection Centre layout - repost

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Olivier!

On Thursday, May 03, 2001 at 2:25:07 PM you wrote:

> Here, in French speaking regions of the globe, we spell it "connexion"
> which  is  the only correct french spelling and has nothing to do with
> your  discussion,  I  agree

Not quite right, it has to do and to add: The British spelling variant
stems from the French (does anyone remember William the Conqueror and
1066?).


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Try to resize the window.

[MaXxX]

At Thursday, May 03, 2001, 9:35:42 AM, Screwyluie mashed together that:

S> I have no space between "Log:" and the text area...

Make the window taller. That is, pull its lower border downwards.

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Well, Stef, you have this sucker described AND confirmed this time! :)

[MaXxX]

At Thursday, May 03, 2001, 12:22:00 PM, Allie jotted down a mail:

ACM> 

ACM> Confirmed!!! Interesting that in my everyday usage I haven't come across
ACM> any problems.

Amen! :D

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