Re: Bugtrack difficulty
On 28 February 2002 at 09:08 Dierk wrote: Hello TBBETA Members! I may be a bit thick - I definitely am -, but how to I give feedback when asked for it to the bugtrack system? I tried by adding a note and sending a message to RITLabs, but don't think this can be right ... I've always assumed 'feedback' (the bright pink background to the bug) = 'add a note to the bottom of the existing notes' ... (In other words, a bug is not clear-cut and RITLabs want comments from people who have - or haven't - experienced it). Alastair This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Icons with gray background
On 28 February 2002 at 07:38 Lars wrote: Hi Giamma, On Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 22:14:41 [GMT +0100], you wrote: G perfect: ATI RAGE XL AGP 2X Then you should probably try to get newer drivers for your graphics card. That should correct the icon issue. Ah, I had this problem (same graphics card) and it was fixed by going back to _older_ drivers :) (This is a Compaq machine; the older drivers were from Compaq and the newer - misbehaving - ones from ATI). Alastair This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/44
Hello Christopher, On Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 2:04:58 AM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): I did once move from Win2K to WinME and the registry's were not 100% compatible which caused me one hell of a headache reconstructing my AB and my filters. CJT When exporting from Win2000 you have to select compatible format of CJT *.reg file. Correct. The difference between W2K and W9x/NT4 .reg files is 1.) The 'header' 'REGEDIT4' vs. 'Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00' 2.) W2K .reg files are unicode. If exporting the registry branch in W2K one can choose which format this will have, so there should not be a problem with exporting the settings stored in registry, which are, as you stated correctly, not account specific, unless it's among others the information what accounts are known to The Bat! and where they are located. Most of information stored in registry are font, column and window settings like position of 'Mail Ticker (tm)', visible tool bars, viewer settings, XLAT-tables and of course the register information. So one should be able to recover all accounts without the registry, maybe with a little bit of work for settings up all account 'new' wich will make The Bat! re-find the former directories and importing account settings automatically. One thing to stumble over was (and might still be) that if your username for POP3 / IMAP connecting had/has an '@' inside everything after '@' including '@' was/is cut off. Me for example had an account with username equals to e-mail-address. After such an 'emergency recovery' the username was set to first part of e-mail-address only. I don't know if this is fixed, never tried it since several months. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/44 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear! -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: mailboxes gone from my bat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi tracer, On 28 February 2002 at 07:45:50 +0700 (which was 00:45 where I live) tracer wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there an easier way to activate my mailboxes which are present in the Bat but which the Bat doesnt want to see?? Ctrl-Alt-Shift-L ... remember? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ BrainStorm - think outside the box http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · SB! v1.54 Beta/43/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8fgBKOeQkq5KdzaARAup6AKDTI/Ci15V9ZkjqJebCCjexpyTr/gCeKt0q GXPQ5t+GQMAtaIEw4tm82TI= =5aiT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Bugtrack difficulty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alastair On 28 February 2002 at 09:24:20 + (which was 09:24 where I live) Alastair Scott might have written AS I've always assumed 'feedback' (the bright pink background to the AS bug) = 'add a note to the bottom of the existing notes' ... AS (In other words, a bug is not clear-cut and RITLabs want comments from AS people who have - or haven't - experienced it). When you do that normally the administrator/developers (depends on setup) ==8= A BUGNOTE has been added to this bug. === http://www.xx//view_bug_page.php?f_id=073 === Reporter: xx Handler:xx === Project:xx Bug ID: 073 Category: Quality Control Reproducibility:always Severity: major Priority: immediate Status: assigned === Date Submitted: 14-01-02 19:02 MET Last Modified: 16-01-02 02:06 MET === Summary:x Description: xx === This is the text of the bug note ==8= - -- Thank you for your time, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.54 B43/iKey1000 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | If there are no gods, all our toils are without meaning. Euripedes | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG Signed, sealed, delivered. iD8DBQE8fgHw+Yrx5mUPRTQRAl29AJsEt4O5i395xqMBEONmM2UgrOTLxgCg7Apq nHDc9N4i34PQPTLRpks1F6c= =Zogn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/44
su So guys from RIT See my other posting containing a batch file... Is *this* batch file provided in TB! intallation :-) ? I have told about what can I do with all stuff, that I got aftrr TB! installation. Best regards, Sergey. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Bugtrack difficulty
Hello Alastair! On Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 10:24:20 AM you wrote: I've always assumed 'feedback' (the bright pink background to the bug) = 'add a note to the bottom of the existing notes' ... Ah, so it's not me alone. To clear that up a bit: I reported a bug some time ago (bug 519, cosmetic) and got an e-mail a few days ago asking me for feedback. I then sent a message to RITLabs, asking what they want to know specifically. As they seem to working quite hard I didn't get an answer. Today I decided to look for a Feedback Form, which isn't there*. So I put in a note saying that the bug is still there. And almost immediately got a message asking for feedback. Well, I sent another message to RITLabs telling them that it's still there. And then I wondered how the appropriate way to feedback is ... *Another thing, if you try to put in a wish over the bugtracking system, you have to choose Report Bug. It should be rewritten to Enter Wish and then have its own form. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/44 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I never criticize my friends; if they are true friends they shall be what they be. (Derek Leveret) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Intpack problem
Hello tbbeta, When installing the international pack strange things happen to my dictionaries. I choosed to add Swedish, English and German dictionaries and so far everything worked as it should. However, when I first tried to use one of the internal dictionaries it is greyed out and no spell checking is done. This applies to all dictionaries above the line (i.e. all internal dictionaries). When choosing another language I can't go back again, the former language is still greyed out. I don't know if this is a beta issue or not, but I have only tried the intpack on 1.54 beta 41 running on a W2K Pro SP2-machine. -- Best regards, marcus mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/44
On Thursday, February 28, 2002 David van Zuijlekom wrote: TB The major problem with not restoring the registry entries comes TB when you have an extensive set of filters. Yes, that's a major drawback for me to un-install TB! and start from the scratch. I don't feel like entering all those filters and settings again. Oh... come on, isn't Tools/Backup enough? ,- [Tools/Backup menu] | What to backup: | - Account Properties | - Folders with Messages | - Address Books [Choose...] | - Global Options | - Attachements Files '- regards, -- /\_/\ Don't worry. Start panicking. (~o o~) )'Y'( __ ( ) / Jacek Wojaczynski The Bat! 1.54 Beta/44 under Windows 95 \ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: OT Bugtrack difficulty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dierk On 28 February 2002 at 11:33:46 +0100 (which was 10:33 where I live) Dierk Haasis rearranged electrons to get ... DH *Another thing, if you try to put in a wish over the bugtracking system, DH you have to choose Report Bug. It should be rewritten to Enter Wish DH and then have its own form. It take that spelling from a text file depending on the language and is is consisted on all projects that are in the bugtracker. It is difficult to change it on only specific projects (not impossible) and not very generic. P.S. Do you know 'wish' for all of these languages danish, dutch.txt english, french, german, italian, korean, norwegian, polish, portuguese_brazil, portuguese_standard, russian, spanish, swedish, and turkish. As that is what the bugtracher will support. :) - -- BFN, ___ David | SecureBat! 1.54 B43/iKey1000 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Unison: 2 violins tuned a quarter tone apart playing the same thing | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG Signed, sealed, delivered. iD8DBQE8fkf0+Yrx5mUPRTQRAgiZAKCdB8mChfkFx5SO9nmLMJ7yO5UoTwCfYwle VyKpJgxH0N5pldzKgKhlNwk= =Wge9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/44
This message: 28/02/2002 18:04 GMT. Hello sergey, A reminder of what sergey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 28 February 2002 at 11:25:09 GMT + su Is *this* batch file provided in TB! intallation :-) ? No it was written by Januk Aggarwal. -- Best regards,Tony. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/44 S/N A27A5E65 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 P4 1.7Ghz -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: 1.54 Beta/44
This message: 28/02/2002 18:02 GMT. Hello Jacek, A reminder of what Jacek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 28 February 2002 at 12:52:34 GMT +0100 JW Oh... come on, isn't Tools/Backup enough? Don't know, never tried it, never had to. I just zip the whole TB directory up. What could be easier than that? It works a treat. It 'aint broke so I sure as hell 'aint going to fix it. -- Best regards,Tony. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/44 S/N A27A5E65 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 P4 1.7Ghz -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Writing and reading Japanese
Hello, Alastair. On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:40:27 + GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 1:40 PM -0700 GMT here, you wrote: From what you say you can buy a third-party application which hooks into the Windows APIs so allows _any_ Windows application to accept such character sets ... true? Well, more or less. It works better with some applications than with others. If so, what's the point of writing (for example) a 'Japanese Bat!'? Rather than the TB! authors (of whom there are not many, something which some people here forget) running themselves ragged trying to support multiple languages, why not direct people to such applications? Several reasons: 1. As indicated above, it's only a partial solution. 2. The competition supports CJK WITHOUT the necessity of third-party software. Microsoft supports both display and input; Becky supports display (I'm not sure about input). 3. It's very expensive. I spent over $100 US to buy NJStar Communicator. And it's cheap compared to the competition. A few years ago, I bought TwinBridge's Korean Partner for $80 (1/2 price, but I had to go to Korea to get it at that price). It supported only Korean (no Chinese or Japanese), and when I upgraded to XP, it broke. So there goes another $100. If I used Outlook or OE, I would have saved not just the expense of The Bat!, but this $180 as well. That's an expensive email client. 4. Some people really do need it. See Yuki's earlier post that started this thread. I only occasionally need CJK capabilities, but she needs them all the time. Without that support, RIT Labs will lose a customer--and many more. As far as I'm concerned, The Bat! and Becky! are very similar products. A couple of years ago, when I was trying to decide between the two, I almost chose Becky because of its CJK support alone. The only reason I didn't was that I like the online community a lot better here than there. For many others who need CJK, the difference between $30 and $130 (or free and $130) will make for an easy decision. (The whole issue is particularly odd when I think that this approach, when anyone with language and typographical skills could write a supporting package for any language which hooked seamlessly into the OS, was solved by Apple in MacOS a good 10 years ago :) You make it sound easy ;-). -- Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Half the lies they tell me aren't true. --Yogi Berra -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Writing and reading Japanese
Hello, Jernej. On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:40:52 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 2:40 PM -0700 GMT here, you wrote: Hello Alastair, 27. februar 2002, 22:39:36, you wrote: From what you say you can buy a third-party application which hooks AS into the Windows APIs so allows _any_ Windows application to accept AS such character sets ... true? This is not the problem. The problem is, that Windows 9x/ME don't have built-in Unicode/DBCS support, you must write it yourself if you wish to use it. The third-party apps will work with 9x/ME, but they're very expensive. -- Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...No good deed goes unpunished - Clare Booth Luce -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Writing and reading Japanese
Hello, Anton. On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:17:11 +0300 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 12:17 AM -0700 GMT here, you wrote: That will be not-so-right to say, but I think it's very hard to manage Japaneese I/O in a program when there are no native Japanese developers in the team. Maybe this is a problem. I don't think it's necessary to be native Japanese, or even to speak the language. Do you think the developers speak all the languages The Bat! currently support? It's a matter of understanding the technology (e.g., Unicode); the results can be tested by beta testers who do know the languages. -- Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Writing and reading Japanese
Hello, Boris. On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:39:19 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, February 27, 2002, 12:39 PM -0700 GMT here, you wrote: After all, I think that problems with international support are not immediate now. Mail client should be *stable*, *fast* and *reliable* first, and we are still having problems with all of this. I just found 67 messages with word euro in it. Who does *really* need it? Just don't use it, if you can't. We in Russia stopped using one letter we were having problem with - that's it. I agree, the most immediate needs are for stability, speed, and reliability. The problem is that the emphasis has not been on these; it's been on a lot of new features, many of which seem to have been added at the whim of the developers. It's my feeling that multilingual support is at least as important as many of these. If proper attention were paid to these three key issues, they could be resolved and time then spent on what users really need. I like a lot of the new features as much as anybody, but many, many posters here have expressed frustration with the way the decisions often seem to be made. -- Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...What goes up has probably been doused with petrol. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
[The-Bat! 1.54 Beta/44] Exit crash
* Hi Tb-beta, On exit crash: ** Date 02/26/2002 Time 02:09 THEBAT caused an invalid page fault in module KERNEL32.DLL at 017f:bff9db61. Registers: EAX=c00301a8 CS=017f EIP=bff9db61 EFLGS=00010212 EBX=00adfe2c SS=0187 ESP=009dff38 EBP=009e01d4 ECX= DS=0187 ESI=815cb1e4 FS=411f EDX=bff76855 ES=0187 EDI=009e02ac GS= Bytes at CS:EIP: 53 8b 15 e4 9c fc bf 56 89 4d e4 57 89 4d dc 89 Stack dump: ** Date 02/28/2002 Time 03:00 THEBAT caused an invalid page fault in module unknown at :. Registers: EAX= CS= EIP= EFLGS= EBX= SS= ESP= EBP= ECX= DS= ESI= FS= EDX= ES= EDI= GS= Bytes at CS:EIP: Stack dump: ** * Best regards ... -- ` _ , ' :: Linux Registered User [#168882] - (o)o) - :: The-Bat! 1.54 Beta/44 -ooO'(_)--Ooo :: Windows 98/4.10. A * Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for life. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
