Re: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Greg Strong]

Hello Stefan,

Sunday, January 18, 2004, 5:59:43 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> what do you think about creating a spool directory for each account
ST> where the incoming messages are stored before they get into the
ST> message base? Having such a directory, it would be possible to put
ST> files in RFC-(2)822 format in there, so TB! will automatically take
ST> them as received, process with filters, etc...

ST> Take this as casting a vote :-)

Yes.

Couple of questions:

1) Would there be a benefit to having a separate directory for each
   account?

2) Would there be a different directory structure for multiple users on
   the same PC?

As to #1 just thinking about the import process I would think the answer
to the above question would be yes. If there was a problem, you would
know what goes to where, and re-import them, then use the kill dupes to
eliminate messages already received without problem.

As to #2 I would think the same directory structure should be used
because it would be less hassle from an administrative view point unless
there is a benefit I can't think of presently. I did a search on
bat*.tmp and located only 3 files in "C:\Documents and
Settings\UserName\Local Settings\Temp".

Thinking out loud, and my $.02 worth.

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Re[2]: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Allie Martin]

Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote:

AM>> Are you running anti-virus software that does a POP check.

PF> No. I am running MyGate.

Bayesit?

I'm not having the temp problem you're having and I don't run MyGate or
any plugins. So I have to wonder if one of those third party
tools/plugins may be interfering.

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Re: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Zygmunt Wereszczynski]

On Sunday, January 18, 2004, at 17:10:49 [UTC+0100] (Sunday, January 18,
2004 17:10 my local time) Peter Fjelsten wrote:

AM>> Are you running anti-virus software that does a POP check.

> No. I am running MyGate.

Some users from Poland also observe many thousands of .tmp files with
TB/MyGate combination. Solution of this problem was to change NNTP server to
faster one.

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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 is now available

[Greg Strong]

Hello Stefan,

Sunday, January 18, 2004, 5:58:55 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> So, no more downgrades?

When on a large message whether in the main window or view folder
hitting the spacebar scrolls past the last line. IIRC this was mentioned
as a bug SOME time ago like last summer. IIRC it was fixed at some point
in time, but it is back.

Some may not view as a bug, but I do like to see the last line that I
read after hitting the spacebar. My $.02 worth.

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Re[2]: Access violation with "Setup view mode"

[Damien]

  


ZW> I must delete all view modes in VM editor and start building new ones from
ZW> scratch. With newly defined modes this AV error does not appear. It seems
ZW> very strange to me.

  The problem is that I use the "" view mode by default.
  I create a new one, switch all my account to this new one, but the
  problem stay and I could not delete the 



Originals Attachments: 

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Re: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:59:43 +0200 GMT (18/01/2004, 18:59 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> what do you think about creating a spool directory for each account
> where the incoming messages are stored before they get into the
> message base?

I think it's a good idea. :-)

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Re: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Peter Fjelsten]

Allie,

On 18-01-2004 15:45, you [AM] wrote in
:
AM> Are you running anti-virus software that does a POP check.

No. I am running MyGate.

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Re: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Peter Fjelsten]

Alexey,

On 18-01-2004 15:30, you [ANV] wrote in
:
ANV> How? The file is still file, whenever it is placed. I think The
ANV> Bat! could just create a 'private' folder in the temporary
ANV> directory for such purposes, but not make it's own global temp
ANV> folder. However the placing The Bat temp folder _incide_ the system
ANV> one sounds well.

Exactly!

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Sunday, January 18, 2004, 4:58:55 AM, you wrote:

> [-] Appearance of Original Text pane is improved a bit

Very nice, so thank you Stefan. Now... I anxiously await similar
improvements in SecureBat! ;o)

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Re: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Gary]

Hi Stefan,

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:59:43 +0200 UTC (1/18/2004, 5:59 AM -0600 UTC my
time), Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

S> Well, there is an old idea and think it's now time to ask whether it's
S> good or not (it's a question to ALL, that's why I broke the thread:
S> what do you think about creating a spool directory for each account
S> where the incoming messages are stored before they get into the
S> message base?
S> Having such a directory, it would be possible to put
S> files in RFC-(2)822 format in there, so TB! will automatically take
S> them as received, process with filters, etc...

There are two schools of thought here that I can see. First on the negative
side, spooling mail first in RFC2822, would probably require some type of
mbox *nux format, where each email pointer would be on the From: or some
such, I am assuming... 

This has a negative effect in that you are handling incoming mail twice...
once for the spool, once for the permanent message base in TB! format.
Processing mail, in general, more than necessary is not a good thing, more
things can go wrong, e.g. malformed headers being processed, etc... I have
seen many mbox formated spools, from large message bases, corrupted. If this
were to be done, some very heavy duty programming checks would have to be in
place to avoid this, as not all MTAs are compliant, to include possible
header rewrites/additons. You also then have to deal with increased,
expensive CPU cycles and mail processing time.

On the positive side, it would eliminate broken .tmp files, as the same
spool file would be written each time. It would probably offer better/faster
filtering capabilities and some backend mail safety features, although the
POP3 protocol would still keep mail on the server during a broken POP3
transaction..

S> Take this as casting a vote :-)

I vote for 

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Re: The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 is now available

[Greg Strong]

Hello Stefan,

Sunday, January 18, 2004, 5:58:55 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> [-] (#0002354) Cursor was disappearing after automatic save in editor (introduced 
in Beta/38)

Thanks for taking care of this so quickly.

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[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:58:55 +0200 GMT (18/01/2004, 18:58 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 is now available is now available from
> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

HTML messages encodied in Big5 are still displayed blank. In the
plain-text viewer, I can read the text fine.

I just copied this from the Source Viewer, if it is of any help:

> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1054426749-1069652176=:80707"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> X-GMX-Antivirus: -2 (not scanned, virus scanner disabled)
> X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam)
> 
> --0-1054426749-1069652176=:80707
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-616061676-1069652176=:80707"
> 
> --0-616061676-1069652176=:80707
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
> Dear Thomas

At the office, this is a real issue, as I receive a lot of mails from
Hong Kong and Taiwan, and I have set the HTML viewer as default for
certain reasons. So, those messages must always get the F9-treatment,
which is annoying.


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[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:58:55 +0200 GMT (18/01/2004, 18:58 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> The Bat! v2.03 Beta/40 is now available is now available from
> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

After I turn on my computer, I open TB and hit "Check Mail for All".
TB dials up, and the modem number at my university is usually busy, so
I get an error-pop. A few seconds later, TB will try again.

After a while, I get tired and don't want to try any more. I hit
"Abort" and start another - manual - dial-up process to my pay-for
ISP. I used to be able to abort by just  hitting , as the Abort
button was the default button on that pop-up error window.

In beta 40, however, the Retry button is the default button instead of
the Abort buttun . Why? TB retries automatically (unless you set the
max number of retries to zero).

Of course I can use the mouse to click on Abort, or I can find the
little A-key on my keybaord among so many others. I find it easier to
hit the  key, it's big and it's on the edge of that key field,
so it's so easy to find. ;-)

Could you change the default back, please?

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[Markus Wilhelm]

Hi Stefan Tanurkov,

today, S U N D A Y!! you wrote:


> [-] (#0002354) Cursor was disappearing after automatic save in editor (introduced in 
> Beta/38)
> [-] Appearance of Original Text pane is improved a bit 
Works fine meanwhile, I have tested it anf found my caret blinking as
it should have done always.

> So, no more downgrades? :-)
At least not for this reason, me too, I am glad about your customer
care. This _is_ the way!



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[Allie Martin]

Stefan Tanurkov, [ST] wrote:

ST> So, no more downgrades? :-)

I must say that I'm REALLY impressed with how issues are being
systematically fixed these last series of betas.

Keep it up!! Way to go..

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Re[2]: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Allie Martin]

Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote:

PF> See my BT note - I've had up to 65000 temp files there - which is so
PF> many that WIndows started putting them in the %userroot% folder.

Are you running anti-virus software that does a POP check.

They're known to interfere with the normal deletion of temp files.

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Re[2]: Temp files of The Bat, Mail counter and

[Alexey N. Vinogradov]

Hello, Dierk.

You wrote 18.01.2004 @ 20:18  in 
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DH> If I understand this correctly - and many here know, I am not very
DH> bright -, you would replace the system's default Temp directory for TB
DH> with its own ...

DH> Sounds good to me, could make message processing faster and more
DH> stable, right?

How? The file is still file, whenever it is placed. I think The Bat! could just
create a 'private' folder in the temporary directory for such purposes, but not
make it's own global temp folder. However the placing The Bat temp folder
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