Re: A hitch in view modes
On Thursday, February 12, 2004 @ 11:58:22 AM [-0700], Allie Martin wrote: > I'm referring here to only the main window. Go with me while using only > the main window. > - Select a folder. > - Using the message list column header context menu, chose another view > mode. > - Now try to switch back to the original view mode, using the folder > properties dialog and the drop down menu provided to choose the view > mode of your choice. Here, that no longer works. In fact, I keep > getting a particular view mode selected instead and I don't know why. > - Use any other method to change your view mode back to the original and > it works and sticks. FWIW, not confirmed here using Win XP SP1 and TB 2.04 RC/2. I was able to change view modes from the message list column header, then change back from the folder properties without a problem. -- Matt Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Long threads: adjusting subjects
Hi Greg, on Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:48:32 -0600GMT, you wrote: GS> Thursday, February 12, 2004, 2:03:26 PM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM>> It was just meant for TBBeta. TBBeta's list server does not change any PM>> subjects, or does it? GS> If you mean for the sender to go into View | select Follow up: to delete GS> the "References" MID'S AND to change their subject appropriately, then I GS> misunderstood you. Sorry! No, I didn't mean this. Leave the references as they are and the message appears in the appropriate thread. That's fine with me. I'd just prefer to have, e.g., "Persisting IMAP woes (was: Re: Betaxyz released)" instead of only another "Re: Betaxyz released". -- Cheers Peter It takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech. Mark Twain Winamp currently playing: Man - A Feather On The Scales Of Justice Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Large message arrived to your address.
Instead of "Large message arrived to your address" as the only subject line when you specify TB only gets headers for messages above a certain size, would it not be more useful to also tag on the actual Subject line, so one can see at a glance what the REAL subject is? As a further, and more general improvement might the developers consider the way Virtual Access used to use the Subject line in threaded none header only messages? This was to have the first unread, in unread only, and the first visible message in a show all situation as normal, but with all subsequent messages showing not a totally useless and space wasting Re: blah blah subject, but instead, the first line of the message text itself. -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 2.03 Beta/61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.03 RC/1 is now available
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, Stefan Tanurkov wrote... JA>> When you changed this, did you change what information is JA>> displayed in the account log? Mine no longer shows anything when JA>> I do a "check mail" on IMAP folders. > No "normal" logging functionality should affected unless you chose > to use ACCOUNT.LOG as the trace output file. For IMAP account, using > the Protocol.INI settings has the same effect as the /IMAPTRACE... > but on per-account basis. Okay, so you've disabled the report on the account log showing TB running through the folders on an IMAP server then? If not, why isn't it doing it any more? I have one account that only has 5 folders, and set to check every 2 mins... I still don't see any activity on it, it's confusing. I really don't want to enable protocol logging just to see if it IS checking mail. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) When Mary had a little lamb, the doctor was suprised, but when Old MacDonald had a FARM, the doctor nearly had a heart attack! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A hitch in view modes
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, 21:25, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: >> If I select the last in the list, TB! chooses the view mode I >> selected at step 2. Seems to be two different lists linked in two >> different ways, one to view, one to use internally. > Confirmed, this is something annoying... And reported: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002522 Stefan, I do think this is a show stopper. If you don't want to release a new RC before releasing the final, at least try to reproduce and bug hunt in the office. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v2.04 RC/2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Long threads: adjusting subjects
Hello Peter, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 2:03:26 PM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM> It was just meant for TBBeta. TBBeta's list server does not change any PM> subjects, or does it? If you mean for the sender to go into View | select Follow up: to delete the "References" MID'S AND to change their subject appropriately, then I misunderstood you. Sorry! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong WinAmp Playing: Using The Bat! v2.04 RC/2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Coonection Centre Download Hanging RC1
> Anyone else experiencing this with RC1? Are you running Bayesit? -- Andy Philpotts Using The Bat! v2.04 RC/2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Coonection Centre Download Hanging RC1
I've been using CE, but yesterday I installed 2.03 RC1 since it was reported that the stalled downloads problem had been fixed. Currently I have 4 accounts stalled at 100%. Two have been stuck for over an hour. Since I have periodic checking set and TB!'s running in background, I often don't realize the fetch is stuck. Abort all clears the connection centre, but I'll have to Ctrl+Alt+Delete to re-start TB!. I love my Bat but this is driving me crazy. Anyone else experiencing this with RC1? -- Many Thanks, Paddy WinXP pro Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A hitch in view modes
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 21:15:25 [UTC+0100] (Thursday, February 12, 2004 21:15 my local time) Marcus Ohlström wrote: [...] > If I select the last in the list, TB! chooses the view mode I selected > at step 2. Seems to be two different lists linked in two different > ways, one to view, one to use internally. Confirmed, this is something annoying... -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v2.04 RC/2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A hitch in view modes
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, 20:58, Allie Martin wrote: > I'm referring here to only the main window. Go with me while using > only the main window. > - Select a folder. > - Using the message list column header context menu, chose another > view mode. > - Now try to switch back to the original view mode, using the folder > properties dialog and the drop down menu provided to choose the view > mode of your choice. Here, that no longer works. In fact, I keep > getting a particular view mode selected instead and I don't know > why. Confirmed. I think I can spot a pattern though. If I at this point select a view mode that in the list is above the view mode I selected at step 2 above, everything works as expected. If I select a view mode that is the same as the one I selected at step 2 or below in the list, TB! chooses the view mode one below what I am trying to select. If I select the last in the list, TB! chooses the view mode I selected at step 2. Seems to be two different lists linked in two different ways, one to view, one to use internally. Confirmations? This is definitely a show stopper, new users fooling around with view modes would give up immediately. > - Use any other method to change your view mode back to the original and > it works and sticks. Confirmed too. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v2.04 RC/2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A hitch in view modes
Hello Marcus, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 1:29:44 PM, Marcus Ohlström wrote: >> Are the "View Modes" defined separately for the main window versus a >> "View Folder FolderName of AcctName?" MO> Yes, which is great if you ask me. Yes I agree with you. ... MO> All view modes for "View Folder a of b" are the same though. As I have MO> understood it, you can have one view mode per folder, one for the MO> "View Folder ..." windows and one for the MT virtual folder. I have some mail lists where threading by subject is better under the circumstances, but still not the best. See my reply per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I'll put this to practice and confirm this. Thanks! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong WinAmp Playing: Using The Bat! v2.03 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Long threads: adjusting subjects
Hi Greg, on Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:53:34 -0600GMT, you wrote: GS> Thursday, February 12, 2004, 1:08:58 PM, ken green wrote: >>> Please adjust your subjects or start new threads for new topics. kg>> Excellent suggestion! I too get frustrated with a whole bunch of kg>> replies to "Beta xx is available" GS> Although good in theory, it maybe impossible in practice. GS> How do you deal with threading where mail list servers change the GS> subject differently? It was just meant for TBBeta. TBBeta's list server does not change any subjects, or does it? -- Cheers Peter This message was created with The Bat!, version 2.04 RC/2 under OS Windows 98, 4, 10, build , on a Pentium II machine at 200MHz, 64 MB RAM Winamp currently playing: Chicken Shack - Diary of Your Life Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A hitch in view modes
Greg Strong wrote: AM> I opened a folder, right clicked any of the message list header AM> bars and selected 'setup columns'. This opened the column setup for AM> view mode being currently used. Don't you mean "?" See below before commenting on. No. I meant "Setup Columns". In the message list, right click any of the list column header bars and at the bottom of the list is the 'Setup Columns' entry. I think I may now know what you mean although I think there is more buggy behavior then you think at least in a POP account, or I may not fully understand the view mode. I open a view folder of my folder for TBBETA. When I right click I see view mode "Standard1." I'm referring here to only the main window. Go with me while using only the main window. - Select a folder. - Using the message list column header context menu, chose another view mode. - Now try to switch back to the original view mode, using the folder properties dialog and the drop down menu provided to choose the view mode of your choice. Here, that no longer works. In fact, I keep getting a particular view mode selected instead and I don't know why. - Use any other method to change your view mode back to the original and it works and sticks. Are the "View Modes" defined separately for the main window versus a "View Folder FolderName of AcctName?" Yes, they can be. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys - http://pgp.ac-martin.com Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Kana in subject.
Hello drifthat, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 11:28:35 AM, you wrote: d> I must say that, it is *not* kana or kanji, it's Chinese character. d> Perhaps all east asian characters are look same to you. The DBCS d> support of TB is weak. I wish they would enhance it in future d> version. The characters (Japanese Kanji and Chinese) are the same characters (for the most part, Japanese have invented another 2,000 characters or so), it's just the meaning of the character that is different. This can vary from a little difference in meaning, to something completely different. While I can read Hiragana and Katakana (slowly), I know very little Kanji. So if that's what you mean by they look the same to me, then yes, they do. I am unable to differentiate between a Japanese Kanji sentence and a Chinese sentence consisting of only Kanji characters. Anyone know someone who reads Chinese and could verify the screenshot actually says something meaningful? I've cc'd this to TBOT, we can continue there. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/53 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Long threads: adjusting subjects
Hello ken, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 1:08:58 PM, ken green wrote: >> Please adjust your subjects or start new threads for new topics. kg> Excellent suggestion! I too get frustrated with a whole bunch of kg> replies to "Beta xx is available" Although good in theory, it maybe impossible in practice. How do you deal with threading where mail list servers change the subject differently? I've been away from the list for some months until recently, but this issue was somewhat discussed in past. IIRC Bill McCarthy proposed the ability to change the subject on received messages to fix this problem with TB's current subject threading. However Stefan strongly opposed this capability due to potential implications of TB being classified as a spammer's tool (i.e. ability to manipulate headers). Now we all know how forging was used by spammers to implicate TB. When I had problems corresponding with another ML moderator because of my use of TB his reply was something to the effect "isn't TB a spammer tool." Under those circumstances in the past I can fully understand the position Stefan took with regard to this ability. I don't know if there is a good solution here on this issue of threading. From my practical standpoint it sure would be nice to have a better solution than the present subject threading presently used by TB. With the variability of mail list servers out their it sure would be nice to have a better "subject" threading than presently implemented in TB because it just does NOT practically speaking. Now if we really want to hear a little history on threading we should ask for MAU's knowledge of how threading was achieved by my old email client Virtual Access (i.e. VA). My $.02 worth. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong WinAmp Playing: Using The Bat! v2.03 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A hitch in view modes
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, 20:21, Greg Strong wrote: > Now my question: > Are the "View Modes" defined separately for the main window versus a > "View Folder FolderName of AcctName?" Yes, which is great if you ask me. I usually read my messages in a pretty clean view mode. If I want more information, like received time, I hit enter to open the "View Folder a of b" window where I have another view mode defined, revealing more information. All view modes for "View Folder a of b" are the same though. As I have understood it, you can have one view mode per folder, one for the "View Folder ..." windows and one for the MT virtual folder. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v2.04 RC/2 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Long threads: adjusting subjects
Hi ken, on Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:08:58 -0600GMT, you wrote: kg> Peter Meyns wrote: >> Please adjust your subjects or start new threads for new topics. kg> Excellent suggestion! I too get frustrated with a whole bunch of kg> replies to "Beta xx is available" Thanks for your support! *S* kg> -- kg> Ken Green kg> Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/59 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 If this is true, you should revise your X-Mailer setting. It still reads 1.62r ... Use the %THEBATVERSION macro, and you won't have to bother again. ;o) -- Cheers Peter This message was created with The Bat!, version 2.04 RC/2 under OS Windows 98, 4, 10, build , on a Pentium II machine at 200MHz, 64 MB RAM Winamp currently playing: Shakira - Ready For The Good Times Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.04 RC/2 is now available
Hello Thomas, Thursday, February 12, 2004, 12:33:45 PM, Thomas Woelk wrote: >> 2.04 was supposed to be released on Friday, but we've realised it'll >> be Friday, 13 :-)) TW> Why not a "black cat" release? ;-)) ROTFLMAO! I don't like Friday the 13th. I've had some really wierd stuff happen to me on this date over my life. Call me superstitious if you like. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong WinAmp Playing: Using The Bat! v2.03 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
