Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hello Leif, Friday, June 18, 2004, 12:33:04 AM, you wrote: LG> Hello users, LG> Ok, I've added functionality to create the PDFS2.MSL file which is LG> included in the Rogues.ZIP file. I am lost what is this? -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello Michael, MG> Please add a function (button?) to buld a new "in memory list" of MG> existing .MSL files without restarting TheBat! OK, only problem - I don't know where to place it :) -- 9Val Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Memeo not showing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I have one folder where I have the memo showing permanently and this is done with a custom folder view. I think it is only since the most recent version of TB! but, when I open the folder, the Memo field is blank until I actually click on the message header pane and then they all suddenly pop up. No big deal I know but it's a mini bug (well, I'm probably the only one with the problem but it's still a bug for me) so I thought I should let it be known! - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 & SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 | and the best browser: Opera 7.51 build 3798 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCA93B5BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: "" iQA/AwUBQNLADBqZtcDKk7W+EQJyWgCfWy3XytPihCEIUwMZqiMrXbzl0XIAnjJV IPkttVcK8Gszl+GzHAB5UtZ6 =n5kG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hi danger, on Fri, 18 Jun 2004 06:01:02 -0400GMT, you wrote: LG>> Ok, I've added functionality to create the PDFS2.MSL file which is LG>> included in the Rogues.ZIP file. d> d> I am lost what is this? When unpacked to the TB! images folder it uses the smiley technique to show a picture of the user. Have a look at http://www.Pcwize.com/thebat. You have to create an account and sign in to add a picture of yourself. -- Cheers Peter :Peter_Meyns: The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1, on Win98, 4, 10, build , PII at 200MHz, 64 MB RAM Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello 9Val, Friday, June 18, 2004, 6:09:07 AM, you wrote: MG>> Please add a function (button?) to buld a new "in memory list" of MG>> existing .MSL files without restarting TheBat! 9> OK, only problem - I don't know where to place it :) hm, my best guess would be under specials- right under junk maybe? reload smileys- :D -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-1 (17.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hello Leif, Friday, June 18, 2004, 12:33:04 AM, you wrote: LG> Everything should work peachy. LG> This will be easier than cutting and pasting everything each time. what if we have a custom PDSF.msl ?? still gotta edit.. I know some members got RID of some smileys, they may not want them BACK and I left some IN I don't want gone :P -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-1 (17.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello! I like the idea of rogue smiles (but didn't submit my rogue yet)!! :-) I would suggest the limitation on size for the smily image file of 7KB or 10KB, and the size should be 120x144. There is no rationale for the JPEG image of 64x86 pixels to be 39058 bytes. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Dear Paul, @18-Jun-2004, 12:01 -0400 (18-Jun 17:01 UK time) Paul Cartwright [PC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Dave: DG>> Beats the tar out of me... We've reached the end of my DG>> extraordinarily limited graphics expertise! lol PC> I'll let Leif worry about it, he loves a challenge :) I've got it figured. I did the following all using IrfanView. First I trimmed it to the right shape and blew it back up to the required dimensions. That didn't make it look any better nor did it shrink the size, but it was a starting point. Next, I saved it as a GIF to get the colours indexed. That only reduced it to about 13kb. Then I reloaded it and saved it as a new JPG and that reduced it to 3kb. -- Cheers -- ://.arck: D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpRzAq6d3mJv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gregory> Download it again, and you should be good to go. I just did it. Yup. Cool. Having to restart TB! everytime is a pain though, isn't it? - -- :Stuart_Hemming: Using The Bat! v2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.5.5 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Does the name Pavlov ring a bell? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com"; iQA/AwUBQNMTJ9ttnLhkydF1EQLqowCfZUgqy1dAnIEFBN2Ruha5eixQmKMAoJ64 ZSWw1A8Ayl8g3fkpeOXCtOuI =PVpL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ http://www.estatecomputers.com/ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63. Members of Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard). Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gregory> I'm going to test it in a few minutes. I don't know if the one that's on you site ATM is as the result of your new query or of manual intervention, but either way we're back to single entries. - -- :Stuart_Hemming: Using The Bat! v2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.5.5 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com The most destructive force in the universe is gossip. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com"; iQA/AwUBQNMTdNttnLhkydF1EQLZiQCfTfJnXUz7xGAh1vRVsRc09R4C4mEAoP70 N5QsOlrBOg8Zglq624znBKh2 =PXvf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Westgate House, Westgate, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, NG34 7RJ http://www.estatecomputers.com/ Registered in England No 1604453. VAT No. 416 2922 63. Members of Microsoft Certified Partner Programme, Borland User Group, and PISCES (Property Information System Common Exchange Standard). Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hi Stuart, on Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:07:00 +0100GMT, you wrote: Gregory>> Download it again, and you should be good to go. I just did it. SH> Yup. Cool. Having to restart TB! everytime is a pain though, isn't it? It is a bit... But 9Val already said it would be easy to place an option somewhere to reload the images folder. It might be possible via command line, but I don't know how. Maybe I should place this question on TBTech... -- Cheers Peter :Peter_Meyns: The Bat! v2.12 Beta/1, on Win98, 4, 10, build , PII at 200MHz, 64 MB RAM Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello Marck, Friday, June 18, 2004, 12:08:47 PM, you wrote: MDP> 've got it figured. I did the following all using IrfanView. MDP> First I trimmed it to the right shape and blew it back up to the MDP> required dimensions. That didn't make it look any better nor did it MDP> shrink the size, but it was a starting point. MDP> Next, I saved it as a GIF to get the colours indexed. That only MDP> reduced it to about 13kb. MDP> Then I reloaded it and saved it as a new JPG and that reduced it to MDP> 3kb. I did that to the new picture and reduced it from 15K to 1.8K ! -- Best regards, Paul :Paul_Cartwright: Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello Leif, Friday, June 18, 2004, 12:04:38 PM, you wrote: LG> Hello Paul, LG> Friday, June 18, 2004, 10:01:07 AM, you wrote: Paul>> I'll let Leif worry about it, he loves a challenge :) LG> Worry about what? Your image size? I don't even have time to edit my LG> own! Marck said: I've got it figured. I did the following all using IrfanView. First I trimmed it to the right shape and blew it back up to the required dimensions. That didn't make it look any better nor did it shrink the size, but it was a starting point. Next, I saved it as a GIF to get the colours indexed. That only reduced it to about 13kb. Then I reloaded it and saved it as a new JPG and that reduced it to 3kb. -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Apr2004 (4.1.412) (avast! version number) 0425-1 (17.06.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.412 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rogues etc..
Hello Leif! On Friday, June 18, 2004 at 4:02:38 PM you wrote: > Here, see for yourself. I'm replying twice to your message. Once with > my Rogues Smiley sig, and once without. There's virtually no hit > whatsoever. And you cheated by changing your sig midway. Although I know that you specifically wanted to show that it is only three (3!) characters that have to be added if one wants others to see the photo ... -- :Dierk_Haasis: The Bat 2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.(George Bernard Shaw) Corollary: Those who can't teach - consult. (Derek Leveret) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rogues etc..
Hello Graham! On Friday, June 18, 2004 at 4:24:39 PM you wrote: > - It can only include "rogues" And? > - It only works in 1 of the viewing modes of TB! - one I don't > actually use (Why TB! has so many "selectable" viewing and editing > modes is (IMHO) a far more relevant issue to the beta team) Me too. I am not using the RTFV and I don't want to. But I also don't want to necessarily see the images (or the smileys, come to think of it). Others may want to see me - one case I know for sure -, so they got their way. > - It isn't based on any form of standard supported anywhere and it is > only understandable by this (and future?) versions of The Bat, hence > its applicability to the majority of current and future users is tiny. And? > - It's taking time and bandwidth in a beta support forum discussing > all these not required features. (I'd be happy if it was in either TECH > or OT) Valid point, said so myself. OTOH, if you don't want to read the smileys/rogues messages, just skip or filter them. AFAIK, the list has not a limit policy, meaning that for every rogues' message another (perhaps more important) one cannot be transmitted. Like: Only 300 messages per week ... -- :Dierk_Haasis: The Bat 2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Be contend with what you get, and what you get will be contend with you. (Derek Leveret) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Wish: Shortcut/menu option to change viewers
Hello TBBETA Members! I am not sure this does not already exist: I'd like to have much easier access to alternative viewers in TB. When I'm testing something, like the smileys/rogues recently, I'd like to just hit a keyboard shortcut or go to a menu item (context menu?) to change on the fly to the RTFV or back again to the PTV. And this from a folder view (in this case the MT folder). Now I have to hit the combo to maximise TB from the Tray, look for the Preferences and change there - which isn't that easy with the MT running over the title menu bars, as it is with my set-up. -- :Dierk_Haasis: The Bat 2.11.04 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Ein Berater ist jemand, der 49 Liebespositionen kennt, aber kein einziges Mädchen. (Kasimir M. Magyar) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rogues etc..
Hello Dierk, Friday, June 18, 2004, 10:48:43 AM, you wrote: Dierk> And you cheated by changing your sig midway. Although I know Dierk> that you specifically wanted to show that it is only three (3!) Dierk> characters that have to be added if one wants others to see the Dierk> photo ... Em, that was the point. That the only difference between a message showing a Rogues Smiley and one that does not, is 3 bytes. Those three bytes attributes to the : _ : that are different in my Rogues sig and my non-Rogues sig. I don't see where it was cheating if that was the exact point I was trying to convey. Technically, I didn't have to force people to use the : _ : in their Rogues Smiley handle. I could have let them just use their normal sig "name", and then there would be *absolutely* no difference whatsoever in message size. However, we've discovered it to be poor practice to not make the Rogues Smiley handle unique (i.e. the whole (c) Copyright being replaced by a coffee cup.) -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Society is like a stew. If you don't keep it stirred up,\myou get a lot of scum on top. - Edward Abbey Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Dear Januk, @18-Jun-2004, 11:10 -0700 (18-Jun 19:10 UK time) Januk Aggarwal [JA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: >> I've got it figured. I did the following all using IrfanView. JA> This is perhaps a stupid question, but I use IrfanView all the time JA> for reducing digital camera photos. Were you guys throwing out the JA> EXIF data and JPG comments? They can take up quite a bit of space. JA> You can select what you keep when you're saving the resized image. That's probably what my to/fro juggling achieved by accident :-). -- Cheers -- ://.arck: D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.12 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpWmsnTKG0gH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hello Leif, On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 05:43:35 -0600 GMT (18/06/2004, 18:43 +0700 GMT), Leif Gregory wrote: LG> Sorry. You're right I thought it obvious, but I should have put in a LG> disclaimer that you'd lose any customization to your PDSF.MSL file if LG> you delete and rename PDSF2.MSL file. Yes, but: Who would really delete it? I just renamed it, and I think most if not all users on this list will have done the same. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The real question for 1988 is whether we're going to go forward to tomorrow or past to the--to the back! --V.P. Dan Quayle. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hello Leif, On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 05:48:59 -0600 GMT (18/06/2004, 18:48 +0700 GMT), Leif Gregory wrote: PM>> When unpacked to the TB! images folder it uses the smiley PM>> technique to show a picture of the user. Have a look at PM>> http://www.Pcwize.com/thebat. You have to create an account and PM>> sign in to add a picture of yourself. LG> So much for a "limited" public beta I also downloaded it without even having to create an account. LG> Oh well, the cat's out of the bag, and it's doing pretty well. No LG> major bugs. I tested it and saw only pictures instead of the names. So, it would suggest that people write their names and the icon-trigger. That might cause an overhead of more than 3 bytes, depending on the length of the name, though. ;-) Not that I care. I don't use the RTV for European languages anyway . -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "It's best for employers that I not work with people." Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hello Paul, On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 06:57:33 -0400 GMT (18/06/2004, 17:57 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC> what if we have a custom PDSF.msl ?? still gotta edit.. I know some PC> members got RID of some smileys, they may not want them BACK PC> and I left some IN I don't want gone :P I just copied the files from the zip file into the image directory. It added the new smileys and didn't delete any of the old ones in the process. Or added nasty ones that have been deleted previously. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. There is a CD out entitled "The Worst of Jefferson Airplane." If you buy this, take it home, play it, and enjoy it, should you take it back and demand a refund? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ROGUES.ZIP --- READ THIS
Hello Thomas, Friday, June 18, 2004, 1:20:22 PM, you wrote: Thomas> Thomas> I also downloaded it without even having to create an account. Thomas> Yep, that's why I put the Download link on the sign-in screen, so people could. I only ask people to put in a Rogue image so other Rogues Smileys users can see them too! :-) Thomas> I tested it and saw only pictures instead of the names. So, it Thomas> would suggest that people write their names and the Thomas> icon-trigger. Some people do that too. I figure if you really wanna know my name look in the FROM field! Thomas> That might cause an overhead of more than 3 bytes, depending Thomas> on the length of the name, though. ;-) Yeppers. -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: The size of a computer error is inversely proportional to the elapsed time. Using The Bat! 2.12 Beta/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: combined smileys (suggestion)
Hello Januk, Friday, June 18, 2004, 2:10:45 PM, you wrote: >> I've got it figured. I did the following all using IrfanView. JA> This is perhaps a stupid question, but I use IrfanView all the time JA> for reducing digital camera photos. Were you guys throwing out the JA> EXIF data and JPG comments? They can take up quite a bit of space. JA> You can select what you keep when you're saving the resized image. I just did that to Mary_Bull's and her JPG went from 39K to 1.3K awesome!! -- Best regards, Paul Using The Bat! v2.11.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 (avast! version number) (avast! DB version number) (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Rogues Smileys limited beta
Hello Leif, I've downloaded the roques.zip and put all the files into the images directory. But i am not seeing any pictures. Clearly, i have done something wrong but despite all the messages around this item i don't see where. Can you or anyone else help me out. Kind regards, Gerrit (Will put my picture into the library next week). >> For instance, looking at my sig below you'll see ":Leif_Gregory:" which if you've downloaded the Rogues Smileys images and .MSL file would show up on your machine as my Rogues Image from the gallery. << Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
