Re: Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?

2004-11-16 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Monday, November 15, 2004, 23:47, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote:

 In my opinion, lines of text creating message body should end with
 CRLF pairs. The Bat! probably takes into account each two last
 characters of each line and assumes that they are CRLF. However, in
 last line it is not true, because in this specific message it ends
 with 'ME'. Such strict behaviour is not needed here, because The Bat!
 should test the last character pair either before displaying or
 converting. So, this is a bug :-(

Thanks for answering, both to you Zygmunt and to Mark Partous. I've
filed a bug report at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4059

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double-byte editing is broken since 3.0.2.x?

2004-11-16 Thread Samson
i've reported bug but it doesn't seem to get any attention. hope some
ritlab guys in this forum can see it.

since 3.0.2.x (the first one i tried and confirmed this problem is
3.0.2.2), chinese editing is broken in windows editor mode:

- now backspace can only delete a half of a chinese character
(3.0.1.33 deletes the entire char, which is good)

- now the line wrapping for chinese is wrong. 3.0.2.x wraps chinese as
if it were english (wrap at spaces), however this doesn't work for
chinese. 3.0.1.33 does the chinese wrap very well (wrap by
characters).

it seems that there is some significant changes in windows editor
since 3.0.2.x which caused this significant change. is any ritlab guy
aware of this?

i tried 3.0.2.7 just now and it is still broken.

fyi here is the bug i reported (id 3991):

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3991

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Re: Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?

2004-11-16 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Marcus,

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:09:39 +0100GMT (15-11-2004, 23:09 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

MO This actually was how the message did look like from the beginning, it
MO was me removing the trailing CR/LF before importing it. Now, before I
MO open up a bug report, is this a bug, or are there some RFC(s) specifying
MO a message *should* end with CR/LF?

I guess it might stand to reason that all messages end with CR/LF,
because during the smtp protocol everything sent to the server after
the DATA command has been issued is considered as the message until a
dot on a separate line is encountered.
In order to get that dot on a separate line, the last line of the
message should end with CR/LF

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Re: Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?

2004-11-16 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, 10:38, Roelof Otten wrote:

 I guess it might stand to reason that all messages end with CR/LF,
 because during the smtp protocol everything sent to the server after
 the DATA command has been issued is considered as the message until a
 dot on a separate line is encountered. In order to get that dot on a
 separate line, the last line of the message should end with CR/LF

Sounds reasonable. If the only way to end up with a truncated message is
to do as I did, import a erroneous message, then maybe we should not
bother with this anymore. I would appreciate if you added this to the BT
item I referred to earlier.

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Re: Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?

2004-11-16 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Marcus,

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:47:16 +0100GMT (16-11-2004, 10:47 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

MO I would appreciate if you added this to the BT item I referred to
MO earlier.

Done.

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Re: MicroEd as standalone?

2004-11-16 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Thursday, November 11, 2004, 09:31, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

 Are there any possibility MicroEd will ever be released as a
 standalone editor? I often find myself opening up a new message just
 to use MicroEd to format or compile text. I would love having MicroEd
 as my default editor, but as long as there is no standalone version...

Still no words from Ritlabs..

I filed a wish, please add your notes:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4060

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Re:Cookies in The Bat! Pro with OTF

2004-11-16 Thread znark
G'day Stuart,
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, at 13:27:41 [GMT +] (00:27 here) you wrote:
Z   Is this meant to happen?
 It's not happening here. My cookie file is in
 D:\Program Files\TheBat!\MailPwd and as you can see below all is
 well.

 Is it linked to SmartBat?
 
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Re: Cookies in The Bat! Pro with OTF

2004-11-16 Thread Stuart Hemming
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Z  Is it linked to SmartBat?
Yes, although I never edit it in smartbat. However, I can see your
problem in that I have 2 other files that are only accessed (very
occasionally) from smartbat and they both contain garbage.!

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Re:Cookies in The Bat! Pro with OTF

2004-11-16 Thread znark
G'day Stuart,
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, at 11:12:29 [GMT +] (22:12 here) you wrote:
Z  Is it linked to SmartBat?
 Yes, although I never edit it in smartbat. However, I can see your
 problem in that I have 2 other files that are only accessed (very
 occasionally) from smartbat and they both contain garbage.!

So is this a bug? Is The Bat! trying to encrypt all the text files
attached to smartbat as well?
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Re:Cookies in The Bat! Pro with OTF

2004-11-16 Thread znark
G'day znark,
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, at 20:52:55 [GMT +1100] (20:52 here) you wrote:
 G'day TBBETA,

   Notice my tag line which is obtained from a text file in the
   root of the mail base directory. The file is linked to SmartBat
   so I can add extra cookies.

   Is this meant to happen?

   I also noticed that other text files linked to SmartBat are
   corrupted(\encrypted) the same except for the default
   smartbat.txt file which I notice has been converted to
   smartbat.eni (I think)
 should be .ext

I changed the file extension of the encrypted text files to .ext
closed the pad (text file) in smartbat and reopened it with the new
file extension. The files are readable.

However my cookie file (cookie.ext - encrypted text file) cannot be
read from by the template it still produced garbage (After I changed
the reply\new message template to reflect the file extension change)

So it appears that the cookie file has to be plain text and not
encrypted text even though the encrypted text file can be read by
smartbat.

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Re[2]: Cookies in The Bat! Pro with OTF

2004-11-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Tuesday, November 16, 2004, znark wrote:

 So is this a bug? Is The Bat! trying to encrypt all the text files
 attached to smartbat as well?

all files with SmartBat files included are encrypted and this is not a
bug.

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two ISO tables

2004-11-16 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,

  Does anybody have (could create) the two XLT tables for The Bat!

ISO-8859-13
ISO-8859-16 

  If yes, could you please post them to 
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/read.php?FID=4TID=149 !?

  Thank you very much in advance!

  


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Re: Test message

2004-11-16 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Stuart!

On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 1:53:22 PM you wrote:

AM Just a test. Ignore if you can. :)
 Tried. Couldn't. 8-)

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BayesIt! strikes back

2004-11-16 Thread hggdh
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This morning I found the computer I run TB! showing a pop-up with the
following text: counter error in nspamdict, with a OK button.

Ah well. I knew Alexey is still working out the bugs. So I decided to
look up the bayesit.log.

Last entry is on Nov 14th: 14.11.2004 19:59:12 Current recalculation
session is interrupted..

Now, I do remember that I closed TB! two days ago at about 21:00. I am
also very sure I restarted it yesterday at about 19:00.

But, going on. There's a 'BayesIt1' folder, same level as my original
'BayesIt', with some files, and dated Nov 16th. All files under it,
including the temp working folders are timestamped at about 03:45 Nov
16.

Except... '.\BayesIt1\Base\Transact\autotrain.bys' is timestamped
07:18 this morning.

So.

1. The BayesIt! log has not been updated since Nov 14th;2. There's a
new 'BayesIt1' folder, out of the blue; 3. BayesIt! got  (it seems)
utterly lost.

This is BayesIt! 0.74. I do not remember any new official version from
Alexey -- is there one?


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Re: BayesIt! strikes back

2004-11-16 Thread hggdh
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A bit more of info -- I looked up the BayesIt! configuration. I was
magiacally changed to NO logging, and the directory was indeed set to
BayesIt1.

I do not mind auto-configuring software, but I really do expect it to
at least notify me that it decided to change my settings.

I am not very happy, right now.
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Re[2]: BayesIt! strikes back

2004-11-16 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, hggdh.

You wrote 16.11.2004 @ 22:32  in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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h A bit more of info -- I looked up the BayesIt! configuration. I was
h magiacally changed to NO logging, and the directory was indeed set to
h BayesIt1.

h I do not mind auto-configuring software, but I really do expect it to
h at least notify me that it decided to change my settings.

hm... Believe me, there is no such code in the BayesIt! It makes it's
configuration during the first run by determining the working folder of The
Bat! (the value of [HKCU\Software\Rit\Thebat!\Working Directory] plus
bayesit). It never tries to make the folders like bayesit1 or likely. The
ways it MAY be changed is a) manually do the configuration. b) manually edit
tbplugin.ini in The Bat! working folder (however, this file contains plugin's
settings being BASE64-encoded, and so, it is quite difficult to edit it really
manually); c) restoring from backup copy where bayesit's settings were in
bayesit1 and logging was switched off.

If nothing from enumerated happens, it is really magic :)


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Re: two ISO tables

2004-11-16 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 14:46:50 [UTC+0200] (Tuesday, November 16,
2004 13:46 my local time) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

   Does anybody have (could create) the two XLT tables for The Bat!

 ISO-8859-13
 ISO-8859-16 

Are the data given at
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/ISO%208859-16
and http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/ISO%208859-13 enough for you?

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Re: two ISO tables

2004-11-16 Thread Edvinas Matiuaitis
Hello Maxim,

On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 14:46, you wrote:

MM   Does anybody have (could create) the two XLT tables for The Bat!

MM ISO-8859-13
MM ISO-8859-16 

Are you going to include these ISO charsets into installation package?

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Re: double-byte editing is broken since 3.0.2.x?

2004-11-16 Thread drifthat
Hello Samson,

Tuesday, November 16, 2004, 4:51:55 PM, you wrote:

S i've reported bug but it doesn't seem to get any attention. hope some
S ritlab guys in this forum can see it.

S since 3.0.2.x (the first one i tried and confirmed this problem is
S 3.0.2.2), chinese editing is broken in windows editor mode:

snip

S i tried 3.0.2.7 just now and it is still broken.

S fyi here is the bug i reported (id 3991):

S https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3991

S any attention is appreciated.


This bug, a definite bug of DBCS support, is quit a annoying for far east 
users. Did developers have any plan to improve this issue? also unicode 
support, a long wish?


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Re: BayesIt! strikes back

2004-11-16 Thread hggdh

Hello Alexey,

Tuesday, November 16, 2004, 09:01:32, you wrote:

ANV hm... Believe me, there is no such code in the BayesIt! It makes
ANV it's configuration during the first run by determining the
ANV working folder of The Bat! (the value of
ANV [HKCU\Software\Rit\Thebat!\Working Directory] plus bayesit). It
ANV never tries to make the folders like bayesit1 or likely. The
ANV ways it MAY be changed is a) manually do the configuration. b)
ANV manually edit tbplugin.ini in The Bat! working folder (however,
ANV this file contains plugin's settings being BASE64-encoded, and
ANV so, it is quite difficult to edit it really manually); c)
ANV restoring from backup copy where bayesit's settings were in
ANV bayesit1 and logging was switched off.

ANV If nothing from enumerated happens, it is really magic :)

Welcome to the Brave New World, that has such magic in it :-)
(Shakespeare, please forgive me)

a) manually do the configuration: no I did not do it. Since this
system is only accessible by myself, I can also guarantee nobody did
it.

b) manually edit tbplugin.ini: also negative (even thou it is not that
difficult to work with base64-encoded files).

c) restoring from backup: no. No backups have been taken, so no
backups could have been restored.

Still... it changed to .\BayesIt1, and it reset logging. The last
update on TB! was when I installed TB! 3.0.2.6 on Nov 8th. Whatever
happened, happened between Nov 14th and Nov 16th (when I found it).

I do not doubt you at all. I am just stating what happened.

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Just another test

2004-11-16 Thread Stanislav V. Mikov
Hi there!

test..


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Re: Just another test

2004-11-16 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Stanislav,

Hi there,

icles

 


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Re: test gmail retr

2004-11-16 Thread Allie Martin
Paul Van Noord wrote:
When will The Bat! be able to use a SSL server??
TB! is able to do POP or IMAP over SSL. It has been capable for a while.
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IMAP Clients: The Bat! v3.0.2.5  |  ThunderBird v0.9
IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro  |  OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2)



Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first -
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/