Scheduled re-filter hole

2005-01-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi TB Beta list members,

I just went to add a scheduled refilter only to find that it doesn't
include common folders or common filter sets. Oops. Anyone done a BT
for this?

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Re: Scheduled re-filter hole

2005-01-04 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Tuesday, January 4, 2005, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 I just went to add a scheduled refilter only to find that it doesn't
 include common folders or common filter sets. Oops. Anyone done a BT
 for this?

please look to Sheduller category in BT, I have added many issues for
Re-filter and Backup actions, some of them were already fixed.

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Re: IMAP: Filtering

2005-01-04 Thread 9Val
Hello Allie,  

AM On both occasions it took 4 passes with the manual filtering for all
AM messages to be filtered. You filter and 3 are behind. You filter
AM again, one is behind. You filter again, the one remains. Filter again
AM and finally, it is moved.

If  it'll happen again, can you check log to see there is problem - in
filters  work with IMAP messages or with message moving (as I remember
there are some problems, when messages were copied, not moved)

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Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Julien RANC
Hello testers,

  I was wondering how I can change the password I use to access my
  mails with On The Fly Encryption turned on using a password (no
  eToken).

  Anyone knows how to do that ?

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Re: Scheduled re-filter hole

2005-01-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Marek,

@4-Jan-2005, 16:21 +0100 (04-Jan 15:21 UK time) Marek Mikus [MM] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I just went to add a scheduled refilter only to find that it
 doesn't include common folders or common filter sets. Oops. Anyone
 done a BT for this?

MM please look to Sheduller category in BT, I have added many issues
MM for Re-filter and Backup actions, some of them were already fixed.

You have indeed, but not that one ;-).

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4200

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Re: IMAP: Filtering

2005-01-04 Thread Allie
Hi 9Val,
 On 04/01/2005 10:23 AM, you wrote:

 If  it'll happen again, can you check log to see there is problem - in
 filters  work with IMAP messages or with message moving (as I remember
 there are some problems, when messages were copied, not moved)

I'll bee sure to check the logs next time around.

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Re: Scheduled re-filter hole

2005-01-04 Thread Martin Schoch
* Marck D Pearlstone schrieb am 2005-01-04 16:14:
Hi TB Beta list members,
I just went to add a scheduled refilter only to find that it doesn't
include common folders or common filter sets. Oops. Anyone done a BT
for this?

As far as I can see in the source of the message it was PGP/MIME signed.
But Thunderbird/Einigmail and Gemini can't recognize the signature...
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Can't send mail to info@thebat.net

2005-01-04 Thread Kian Andersen
Hello TBBETA,

  I get a Recipient discarded when trying to send a message to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] anybody know why I get this?

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Re: Can't send mail to info@thebat.net

2005-01-04 Thread 9Val
Hello Kian,  

KA   I get a Recipient discarded when trying to send a message to
KA   [EMAIL PROTECTED] anybody know why I get this?

Try again, that address was temporary blocked

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Re: Scheduled re-filter hole

2005-01-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Martin,

@04-Jan-2005, 17:05 +0100 (04-Jan 16:05 UK time) Martin Schoch [MS] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I just went to add a scheduled refilter only to find that it doesn't
 include common folders or common filter sets. Oops. Anyone done a BT
 for this?

MS As far as I can see in the source of the message it was PGP/MIME signed.
MS But Thunderbird/Einigmail and Gemini can't recognize the signature...

Nothing wrong with my PGP/MIME signature at all. Do you have my key
on your keyring and both of those (strange pieces of alien technology
that are clearly OT for this mailing list) configured to handle
PGP/MIME correctly?

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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-04 Thread Boris Anders
Hello Thomas,

Thomas Fernandez wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 However, I can reproduce the problem now: When the common filter
 catches, the account-level filters are not triggered any more.

Yes, I can confirm this behavior, but can't say whether this is a bug or
wanted. But I think this is wanted, because if a filter matches a
message, filtering stops (if not [X] Continue processing with other
filters is set).


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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Boris Anders  everyone else,

on 04-Jan-2005 at 18:09 you (Boris Anders) wrote:

 Yes, I can confirm this behavior, but can't say whether this is a bug or
 wanted. But I think this is wanted, because if a filter matches a
 message, filtering stops (if not [X] Continue processing with other
 filters is set).

That sounds most logical (iow wanted) to me.

With continue processing enabled, I can confirm that both the common
filter and the account filter are triggered and working.

I have a common ignore filter that for example marks threads with imap
in the subject as read, continue processing is set, and then the account
filter moves the messages to the correct folder.

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Tuesday, January 4, 2005, at 16:29:41 [UTC+0100] (Tuesday, January 4,
2005 16:29 my local time) Julien RANC wrote:

   I was wondering how I can change the password I use to access my
   mails with On The Fly Encryption turned on using a password (no
   eToken).

This choice is irrevocable (once you select password then it is forever).

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Zygmunt,

  A reminder of what Zygmunt Wereszczynski on TBBETA typed on:
  04 January 2005 at 19:44:33 GMT +0100

ZW This choice is irrevocable (once you select password then it is forever).

 Create a backup.
 Delete RIT registry entries.
 Run The Bat.
 Choose OTFE with new password.
 Restore from backup.

 Voila.

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Tuesday, January 4, 2005, at 19:07:03 [UTC+] (Tuesday, January 4,
2005 20:07 my local time) Tony Boom wrote:

ZW This choice is irrevocable (once you select password then it is forever).

  Create a backup.
  Delete RIT registry entries.
snip

Yes, I know this. However, I think there isn't normal procedure for
password changing because of assumed encrypting algorithm.

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Re[2]: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Julien RANC
Hello Zygmunt,

Recently, I saw:

ZW On Tuesday, January 4, 2005, at 19:07:03 [UTC+] (Tuesday, January 4,
ZW 2005 20:07 my local time) Tony Boom wrote:

ZW This choice is irrevocable (once you select password then it is forever).

  Create a backup.
  Delete RIT registry entries.
ZW snip

ZW Yes, I know this. However, I think there isn't normal procedure for
ZW password changing because of assumed encrypting algorithm.

Thanks for your answers. I already thought of this solution, but it is
a bit complicated for something that should be a basic feature.


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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2005-01-04 at 20:59:52 Julien RANC wrote:

 Thanks for your answers. I already thought of this solution, but it is
 a bit complicated for something that should be a basic feature.

Indeed it is.  When you change a password in a situation like this,
the question is also: is the entire message base re-encrypted with (a
hash of) this new password?


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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Julien,

  A reminder of what Julien RANC on TBBETA typed on:
  04 January 2005 at 21:00:14 GMT +0100

JR Thanks for your answers. I already thought of this solution, but it is
JR a bit complicated for something that should be a basic feature.

 It is but it was the only way I could think of for you to try.


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'Trainthread' error message - triggered by BayesIt?

2005-01-04 Thread Peter Hampf
Good evening tbbeta,

  suddenly, while reading a message, I got a window with this error message:

  Unknown general exception in 'trainthread' thread.
   Line(important!)=000C

  The term trainthread makes me assume that it had been triggered by BayesIt 
and not
  by TB itself. Alexey, can you verify this? If so, can you please add the 
programs
  name to those error messages?
  
  My BayesIt version is 0.7.9.

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread hggdh

Hello Tony,

Tuesday, January 4, 2005, 13:07:03, you wrote:

TB  Create a backup.
TB  Delete RIT registry entries.
TB  Run The Bat.
TB  Choose OTFE with new password.
TB  Restore from backup.

TB  Voila.

Huh, I am not sure I understand -- maybe I messed something on the
OTFE. I understood the *base* was encrypted, and OTFE would write
encrypted mails to the base, and un-encrypt when reading.

If I am correct, then what you propose could not work.

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Dimitry,

On Tuesday, January 4, 2005 at 9:09:38 PM Dimitry [DA] wrote:

 Thanks for your answers. I already thought of this solution, but it is
 a bit complicated for something that should be a basic feature.

DA Indeed it is.  When you change a password in a situation like this,
DA the question is also: is the entire message base re-encrypted with (a
DA hash of) this new password?

This wouldn't be a problem if the password were only there to encrypt
a (randomly generated when OTFE was activated) key used to encrypt the
message base. Of course this key should be rather long than short to
avoid simple brute force attacks, but this way only this key has to
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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello hggdh,

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:12:57 -0600 GMT (05/01/2005, 05:12 +0700 GMT),
hggdh wrote:

h Huh, I am not sure I understand -- maybe I messed something on the
h OTFE. I understood the *base* was encrypted, and OTFE would write
h encrypted mails to the base, and un-encrypt when reading.

h If I am correct, then what you propose could not work.

I agree with you here, it looks like the encryption doesn't make much
sense if anybody who just deletes the reg key and creates a new
password can then read all mails.

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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Boris,

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:09:46 +0100 GMT (05/01/2005, 00:09 +0700 GMT),
Boris Anders wrote:

 However, I can reproduce the problem now: When the common filter
 catches, the account-level filters are not triggered any more.

BA Yes, I can confirm this behavior, but can't say whether this is a bug or
BA wanted. But I think this is wanted, because if a filter matches a
BA message, filtering stops (if not [X] Continue processing with other
BA filters is set).

I just tested it and it works as you described on my home computer.

However, this is not what I want. When the first common filter
catches, I don't want the other 100 or so common filters tested.
simply because it takes minutes and on occasion, makes TB choke on it
(tried it).

However, I need the account level filters only to  makr the messages
with something so I know which account they were first sent to, before
being moved to the folders that they share, so I know which  account
to reply from. I chose to try colour groups.

Most filters are common filters, as messages come in through all
accounts. The accounts are department accounts (seafreight, airfreight
import, airfreight export, etc all having their own email address, but
I need to check all department accounts). This is the revolutionary
new set-up in the office, we used to work with only one general
account that needed to be read by all managers. I still read all email
across all accounts until the department managers have the
communication under control (transition period).

The folders are country folders, so all mails coming from Germany will
be sorted into the Germany folder etc. I do not want to duplicate my
folder structre for each account but use the existing folder structure
of the old general account, which will also still continue to
receive mails.

I need to be able to reply from the account that the mail was
originally sent to, though. Maybe I am think along the wrong track.
Does anybody have an idea how I could do what I want?

Setting all common filters to Continue Processing... is not
practical, over 100 filters with tens of OR conditions each makes TB
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Problem starting The Bat!

2005-01-04 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello tbbeta,

  I have recently started having a problem starting The Bat! When
  started I get screenshot1 and upon cancellation I get screenshot2.

  I started plying with files, by renaming some accounts and found
  that if one of my accounts MTS is renamed to MTS2 everything works
  fine, except I have no access to the MTS account.
  
  I then tried renaming my account.cfn file and this seemed to allow
  me back into my account, but when I reboot I have the same problem
  again. Sometimes I have to rename the account.cfn file in the MTS
  account and in the Mail directory as well.

  Anyone have any ideas what is going on?


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Re: Problem starting The Bat!

2005-01-04 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:46:37 -0600, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

I have recently started having a problem starting The Bat! When
started I get screenshot1 and upon cancellation I get screenshot2.

Well, judging from screenshot1, this SPX thingy may have something
to do with it.

Anyway, you're using v3.0.2.8, which is not the latest beta. So my
advice is: upgrade to beta .10 and see if the problem reoccurs.
If it does not, it has been fixed, if it does, then there is a
reason for discussion.

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Re[2]: Problem starting The Bat!

2005-01-04 Thread James Olsen
Hello Arjan,

AdG Well, judging from screenshot1, this SPX thingy may have something
AdG to do with it.

As a side topic... I may be mistaken, but given the icon and where
this 'splash' is placed I believe the SPX program is what he used to
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