Filter

[Den V. Yafyasov]

Hello.

How can i remove quick filter on folder (setted by Alt+Click on Message Field)?
ESC doesn't work.

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Seems anti-virus plugin won't work under 3.0.9.5

[Bobi Jam]

Hello tbbeta, 

I tried AVP plugin and clamav plugin, both report following msg when
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Re: [SPAM *****] Feature Request: MAPI

[NetVicious]

domingo, 13 mar 2005 at 20:55, it seems you wrote:

> For the simple MAPI function of Thebat there should be the option
> that TheBat is "simple MAPI" application only *as long as* TheBat is
> running.

> That means - when TheBat starts - it replaces MAPI32.DLL with the
> file of TheBat - and when TheBat terminates it restores the backed
> up MAPI32.DLL.

Use the bt to make the wish and you will get votes there.

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%language macro doesn't work in 3.0.9.5

[Roelof Otten]

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  I can manually select the language for the spell checker (in
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  pick the correct language for the spell checker and that doesn't
  work...

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Re: Lost my "receive mail" button

[Boris Anders]

Hello Stuart,

Stuart Cuddy wrote (in ):

>>> That helps, but: it is inconsistent. Here the Send icon is the first to
>>> drop off, see attachment. More logical would be, as in other programs,
>>> to start dropping icons from right to left.

>> Fully confirmed.

> Are you using the icon sets that come with the beta.

Yes.

> If not this may be the problem. Also if you have tried to resize the
> icons you may see things like this.

Don't understand you here.

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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[Boris Anders]

Hello MAU,

Mau wrote (in ):

>> Maybe value is stored from last time?

> This is what 9Val said:

>> Actually   filter  statistics  is correct for that session only, since
>> saving  is  too  expensive  operation  to  be  done  every time it was
>> tested/triggered.

If I understand it correctly, it's not true for me - filter statistics
are saved after a reboot of TheBat! Confirmations?


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Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution

[Tony Boom]

Hello Martin,

  A reminder of what Martin Schoch on TBBETA typed on:
  13 March 2005 at 17:04:47 GMT +0100

MS> I couldn't install TheBat on the XP machine so I can't say how the
MS> icons are displayed within TheBat.

 Why not just view the glyphs file on it's own, no need for a full install
 to see them, you just need the .png file.


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Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution

[Tony Boom]

Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on:
  13 March 2005 at 16:33:05 GMT +0100

M> But, if those using XP _and_ an LCD monitor see all
M> the icons just fine,

 Which I do on two machines, both XP with LCD monitors.


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Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution

[MAU]

Hello Martin,

> Why the difference between version 3.0.8.2 and 3.0.9.5?
> 
> In 3.0.8.2 the icons are well displayed - without any "stairs" and
> as far I as I know the internal icon definition is also a PNG file.

I assume you mean 3.0.2.8 (3.0.2.10 in my case) and I never thought
about that because I use my own glyphs.bmp and in 3.0.2.10 (and
3.0.2.8) it does override all icons, including toolbar icons which are
not overridden in 3.0.9.5.

But you are darn right here. I have just switched to 3.0.2.10 without
using my glyphs.bmp (so, using the new-icons.png) and the toolbar icons
are displayed much better, even the three 'bad' ones. H! It seems
that, after all, TB has something to do with this issue. The only thing
I can think off at the moment is Themes, which were not used in 3.0.2.x
betas. Could this be the actual problem? Maybe, or maybe Themes mixed
with the fact of using Win2K/XP and an LCD monitor or not. I don't know.

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Re: 3.0.9.5: Can't trust statistics (Was: 3.0.9.4: Filter Statistics)

[MAU]

Hello Boris,

> Maybe value is stored from last time?

This is what 9Val said:

> Actually   filter  statistics  is correct for that session only, since
> saving  is  too  expensive  operation  to  be  done  every time it was
> tested/triggered.



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Re: Follow on Search

[Greg Strong]

Hello MAU,

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:30:46 +0100 GMT(3/13/2005, 6:30 AM -0600 GMT), 
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MAU wrote:

> ... but the message list had not been scrolled properly (i.e. brought
> into view in the message list), which seems to be what you are
> reporting.

Correct.  The problem occurs EVERY time here, so "couple of times" or
intermittent problem is NOT applicable in my case.

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Re[2]: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello MAU,
Sunday, March 13, 2005, 9:32:28 AM, you wrote:

M> 

Excellent  synopsis.  Looks  as  if the problem is there for everyone,
just not as visible depending on circumstances.

M> That is all I can think of. I will now turn my "background processor" off
M> for a while  

Yes, turn it off and let it cool down before it flames out. ;)

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Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution

[MAU]

Hello Martin,

>> I'm using the icons that came with the rar file and they're perfect. See
>> attached.
> 
> Strange - yes I see, they are perfect - perfectly displayed here
> with IrfanView.

My "background processor" has been thinking about this problem since you
brought it up yesterday and I think I now understand what is happening.

1.- When I replied to your first message yesterday I (unintentionally)
lied to you. First I understood that you were referring to _all_ icons
and second I just took a quick look at my toolbar and I thought mine
were "perfect".

2.- Taking a more detailed look yesterday after our PM exchange and the
other messages posted in this thread, I realised that I was seeing your
same problem (the 'stairway effect' which you called 'bad resolution')
with only 3 icons: Address Book, Print and Delete, which were actually
the ones you had included in your attached PNG.

3.- If you take a look at the other icons, mainly those in main toolbar,
all or mostly all have borders that are at 0, 90 or 45 degrees. With
these inclinations they can be easily drawn as a straight line of
pixels. But if you look at the AB, Print and Delete buttons, where most
borders don't have these inclinations, you see this effect that I call
"stairway effect".

4.- But, how come some people see them all perfect? This "big question"
was answered, at least for my case, just a while ago. I remembered
about the ClearType technology developed by Microsoft for improving font
display (http://www.microsoft.com/typography/WhatIsClearType.mspx) and
then is when I realised that there is a difference, a big difference, if
you display the icons in an LCD monitor or a normal analogue one. In my
case, icons show perfect on an analogue monitor but show the stairway
effect on my big LCD one. There may also be a difference depending on
screen sizes and the resolution being used, but I haven't checked this.

5.- Finally, yesterday I was trying to somewhat correlate the problem to
whether Windows XP or Windows 2000 was being used. It looked like, but I
did not fully verify this, that those using XP did not see the problem. I
am not at all familiar with XP and I don't have any system with XP so I
can't verify this. But, if those using XP _and_ an LCD monitor see all
the icons just fine, it may be (and this is just a guess) that XP is
using for graphics display some kind of technology similar to the
ClearType one for fonts.

That is all I can think of. I will now turn my "background processor" off
for a while ;-)

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Re[2]: Lost my "receive mail" button

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Boris,
Sunday, March 13, 2005, 1:54:36 AM, you wrote:

>> That helps, but: it is inconsistent. Here the Send icon is the first to
>> drop off, see attachment. More logical would be, as in other programs,
>> to start dropping icons from right to left.

BA> Fully confirmed.

Are  you  using the icon sets that come with the beta. If not this may
be the problem. Also if you have tried to resize the icons you may see
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Re: Follow on Search

[MAU]

Hello Greg,

> IIRC selecting "Follow" on search does not show selected message in the
> message list.  Only the folder is selected without the message in view
> in the message list.  IIRC the message 'followed' would be selected in
> the message list, and now the message is not even shown.

Sorry but I can't confirm. 'Follow' works fine here, I have just tested
it.

However I do seem to recall a couple of times where it apparently didn't
work. And I say 'apparently' because the follow option had selected the
right message but the message list had not been scrolled properly (i.e.
brought into view in the message list), which seems to be what you are
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Re: v3.0.9.5 Return

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hi Henk de Bruijn,

Sunday, March 13, 2005 
you answered me as follows -at least in parts- :

CF>> How many entries do you have? Just to satisfy my curiosity.

> Do you mean in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT?
Generally in registry, I use jv16 power tool to analyse and monitor
changings -from time to time. On a fresh installation I found 4 entries.


> But when I try to use SmartBat or Scheduler the program freezes.
I did a lot installing and uninstalling yesterday. My conclusion is,
that somewhere something goes terribly wrong when restoring mailbase and
account settings. And once your TB is broken it will not recover.
All versions higher than the last real beta show this errors.



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Re: Latest Beta

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hi Doug Smith,

Sunday, March 13, 2005 
you let us know -at least in parts- :
  
> Could someone tell me where to find the latest beta?
> I am still using 3.0.2.10

>   

Being far from nannying you: if you like to take advice, please wait for
a real beta. I can't get running any higher version than yours. No way,
no matter what I try. And it is not me alone who says so.

I will save my time and breath for some upcoming versions.

But if you decide to take the risk and screw up your mail client follow
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Re: Lost my "receive mail" button

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Ivan,

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 you wrote in 

>> Doesn't Word drop them on a less-used basis?
>> Is this what TB! does too?
I> Hmm. Thanks, you are right Word2003 does it
I> So i think it is feature (may be unusefull) - but not a bug 

Well my send button is the most used and it still gets dropped off. I
think it's very definitely a right to left preference which is very
annoying but then, when the customizable toolbars arrive, all will be
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Re[2]: Latest Beta

[Doug Smith]

Hello Dick,

Sunday, March 13, 2005, 6:45:43 AM, you wrote:
 


> My opinion: this is the latest Beta and it is working reasonably
> well (if you are not using IMAP) compared to the latest 3.09.05
> which is, IMHO, still a pre-Alpha.

I am not using IMAP, and this build is working reasonably well. Thanks!


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Re: Latest Beta

[Dick H]

Hello Doug,

On 13 March 2005 at 06:47:57 GMT -0500 (which was 12:47:57 where I
live), Doug Smith wrote and made these valuable points on the subject
of "Latest Beta":

  
> Could someone tell me where to find the latest beta?
> I am still using 3.0.2.10
   

My opinion: this is the latest Beta and it is working reasonably well (if you 
are not using IMAP) compared to the latest 3.09.05 which is, IMHO, still a 
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Latest Beta

[Doug Smith]

Could someone tell me where to find the latest beta?
I am still using 3.0.2.10

  

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Re[2]: Lost my "receive mail" button

[Ivan]

Hello, Marcus!

> Doesn't Word drop them on a less-used basis?
> Is this what TB! does too?
Hmm. Thanks, you are right Word2003 does it
So i think it is feature (may be unusefull) - but not a bug ;)

BTW, does anybode have small icons for 3.0.9 (to avoid feature above)?
I had small icons only for 3.0.1, but format was changed (xml instead
ini)...

(!)Warning:  batskin.xml have illegal xml format - there are more then
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popup menu wrong title

[Den V. Yafyasov]

first/second item has wrong title.



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Re: Lost my "receive mail" button

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Sunday, March 13, 2005, 01:12, Peter Ouwehand wrote:

> That helps, but: it is inconsistent. Here the Send icon is the first
> to drop off, see attachment. More logical would be, as in other
> programs, to start dropping icons from right to left.

Doesn't Word drop them on a less-used basis? Is this what TB! does too?

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Re[2]: Lost my "receive mail" button

[Ivan]

Hello, Peter!

N>> Try to make the window of TB bigger
Or try make buttons smaller ;)

> More logical would be, as in other programs,
> to start dropping icons from right to left.
Yea! many programs do it from right to left,
many programs do double-lined toolbar,
but nobody(!) does it like TB here...

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