Re: URL download manager
Hello Bill, Thursday, December 27, 2007, 2:36:01 AM, you wrote: BM Six steps doesn't look very easy but it is much more difficult BM to explain it than to do it. Thanks for your reply. I should have been able to figure that out, but for one reason or another, I thought you were talking about a solution that wasn't related to the Customizer-GUI but rather to something I had overseen. Meanwhile I also had noticed I could turn it on by clicking on the Questionmarked Globe-Icon (of which I still don't know what the Always/Never/Ask-choice stands for). -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 1:17:56) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: URL manager and printing
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, December 26, 2007, 6:23:33 PM, you wrote: SC Can anyone confirm? I assume this happens on more than just the PayPal SC emails. Confirmed. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 1:22:30) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing and restarting - a bug?
Hi, adding to my email about TBs closing and self-restarting, when marking as read very big messages, (see below), here are some screendumps to show this phenomenon. http://www.boudicca.de/Clipboard-tb0.jpg http://www.boudicca.de/Clipboard-tb1.jpg http://www.boudicca.de/Clipboard-tb2.jpg and here's an example of such a message I get dayly by subscription: http://www.boudicca.de/tb-message.html Hope that it can be solved soon. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing Help
Hello Jens, On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:12:52 +0100 GMT (27/12/2007, 21:12 +0700 GMT), Jens Franik wrote: JF Your Topic with 4.0.0.2 - We are on 4.0.0.3 !? Maybe it was silently fixed in the meantime? Glad to hear you don't have that problem now. JF No, can't confirm, but you need the The_bat.chm Help File in the Bat JF Directory - of course. I think this file is not included at first? The file is there, and worked with 3.99.3. -- Cheers, Thomas. Eine Ratte schwaermt der anderen vor: 'Ach ja, diese Lerngesetze sind schon toll! Jedes Mal wenn ich diesen Hebel druecke, muss mir der Weisskittel Futter geben!' http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Missing Help
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez, am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2007 um 14:44 schrieben Sie: Clicking on Help in the main menu does nothing here. Hitting F1 results in an error message: Missing context help topic 14028 [OK] Can anybody confirm? Your Topic with 4.0.0.2 - We are on 4.0.0.3 !? No, can't confirm, but you need the The_bat.chm Help File in the Bat Directory - of course. I think this file is not included at first? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configure Foldertabs dialog contains 'old' colourgroups
Hello Robert, On the 'configure foldertabs' dialog some old colour groups are displayed that do not exist anymore the 'edit colour groups' dialog. Does anyone else see that too? Yes, confirmed. How can I get rid of these ? Doesn't seem possible at the moment, the Edit and Delete buttons are disabled and greyed out. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.0.2: Missing Help
Hello TBBETA, Clicking on Help in the main menu does nothing here. Hitting F1 results in an error message: Missing context help topic 14028 [OK] Can anybody confirm? -- Cheers, Thomas. 10. A computer program will always do what you tell it to do, but rarely what you want it to do. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
Hello all, I was reading a message in my TBBeta list folder when I noticed I couldn't mark it as Read. Looking at the Message List context menu I noticed that the Mark as Read, Unread and Delete options were disabled and greyed out (see attachment). Looking at Main Toolbar the options to Reply, Fwd, Delete, print, etc., were also greyed out (see attachment). Moving to a different message or folder didn't change anything, the options were disabled for good. I had to re-start TB to get them enabled again. Anybody noticed something similar? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 attachment: Context_menu.pngattachment: Toolbar.png Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Configure Foldertabs dialog contains 'old' colourgroups
On the 'configure foldertabs' dialog some old colour groups are displayed that do not exist anymore the 'edit colour groups' dialog. Does anyone else see that too? How can I get rid of these ? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Missing Help
Hi Thomas, on Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:44:31 +0700GMT (27.12.2007, 14:44 +0100GMT here), you wrote: TF Clicking on Help in the main menu does nothing here. TF Hitting F1 results in an error message: TF Missing context help topic 14028 TF [OK] TF Can anybody confirm? I haven't tried with 4.0.0.2, but it works fine in 4.0.0.3. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
Hello MAU, A reminder of what MAU typed on: Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 15:53:49 GMT +0100 M Hello all, M I was reading a message in my TBBeta list folder when I noticed I M couldn't mark it as Read. Looking at the Message List context menu I M noticed that the Mark as Read, Unread and Delete options were disabled M and greyed out (see attachment). Looking at Main Toolbar the options to M Reply, Fwd, Delete, print, etc., were also greyed out (see attachment). M Moving to a different message or folder didn't change anything, the M options were disabled for good. I had to re-start TB to get them enabled M again. M Anybody noticed something similar? Nothing greyed out here, but for some reason your message ended up in the SPAM folder. I have never had this happen with a message from tbbeta since I started using Antispamsniper. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
Hi MAU, on Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:53:49 +0100GMT (27.12.2007, 15:53 +0100GMT here), you wrote: M I was reading a message in my TBBeta list folder when I noticed I M couldn't mark it as Read. Looking at the Message List context menu I M noticed that the Mark as Read, Unread and Delete options were disabled M and greyed out (see attachment). Looking at Main Toolbar the options to M Reply, Fwd, Delete, print, etc., were also greyed out (see attachment). M Moving to a different message or folder didn't change anything, the M options were disabled for good. I had to re-start TB to get them enabled M again. M Anybody noticed something similar? Yes I did. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It went away after re-starting The Bat!. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
Hi Stuart . but for some reason your message ended up in the SPAM folder. I have never had this happen with a message from tbbeta since I started using Antispamsniper. Here too. The subjectline was changed into: Subject: [!! SPAM] 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) f or no apparent reason And in the kludges of MAU's message is this line: X-Greylisted-at: draenor.its-toasted.org But because I've it too with some mails from completely other people, also private mail, it must be Antispamsniper in combination with this new version of TB, I suppose; it didn't happen before. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
Good day beta list members, Thursday, December 27, 2007, 2:53:49 PM, you wrote: Hello all, I was reading a message in my TBBeta list folder when I noticed I couldn't mark it as Read. Looking at the Message List context menu I noticed that the Mark as Read, Unread and Delete options were disabled and greyed out (see attachment). Looking at Main Toolbar the options to Reply, Fwd, Delete, print, etc., were also greyed out (see attachment). Moving to a different message or folder didn't change anything, the options were disabled for good. I had to re-start TB to get them enabled again. Anybody noticed something similar? Seeing the exact same thing here, too. -- Best regards, Chrismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.0.0.2 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
Hello Peter, M Anybody noticed something similar? Yes I did. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It went away after re-starting The Bat!. That's right, I forgot you had reported something similar. I have opened BT report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6593 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
Hello Stuart, Nothing greyed out here, but for some reason your message ended up in the SPAM folder. I have never had this happen with a message from tbbeta since I started using Antispamsniper. Maybe I used some very 'dirty' word in my message? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
Hello Chris, Seeing the exact same thing here, too. Please add note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6593 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.3: No way to sort accounts and folders
Hello Marek, confirmed, but do You really miss this? I am not sure, why can be sorting of folders useful, as I think, this is waste feature... OK, further to my reply last night I will give you just an example of why I use this feature. The following filter is the last Incoming filter in my main work account: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [9BFB79A4.01C48E1D.325C07EF.2B5FA5AD] Name: New\20Unknown Filter: {\0D\0A\20`21\0D\0A} Priority High MoveMessage AutoFolder folder \5C\5CERM\20Spain\5CInbox\20-\20Unknown\5C%FromName IsActive IsSendQueue endFilter As you can see, what it does is to move any message that has not been trapped by any previous filter to a sub-folder of 'Inbox - Unknown', creating the subfolder if it doesn't already exist. This way, messages from 'new people' not already in my AB will be moved to a sub-folder with his/her name. Then, when I reply, a similar Outgoing filter will move my reply to same folder (isn't this what a lot of people wish). Also, any further incoming or outgoing messages to this folder so that I maintain 'conversations' (threads) with different people in separate folders and not all them mixed up in a single Inbox, or Inbox-Unknown, etc. But because every subfolder that is created (manually or automatically) will be added at the end, the result is something like attached PNG. Then is when I use the feature of folder sorting to get these sub-folder in alphabetical order, not just for 'aesthetics' but because they are easier to browse and find. I select my Inbox-Unknown folder, I click on the Name column title and select the 'Sub-items of current item' option from the pop-up dialog. But I have other uses for folder sorting :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.3 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2attachment: Sort2.png Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.0.2: Missing Help
Hello Zygmunt, Thursday, December 27, 2007, 7:49:47 PM, you wrote: Missing context help topic 14028 [OK] This is quite unexpected message because this number regards File Encrypt/Sign item in main menu. Help support for it was added in 4.0.0.3 version. I have the CHM file maintained by me for Polish users and have no problems. 14028 is for the Main window. 11028 is for the File Encrypt/Sign dialog. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configure Foldertabs dialog contains 'old' colourgroups
Hello all, Thursday, December 27, 2007, Robert van der Hulst wrote: On the 'configure foldertabs' dialog some old colour groups are displayed that do not exist anymore the 'edit colour groups' dialog. Does anyone else see that too? yes, reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6595 How can I get rid of these ? not possible yet. BTW please confirm additional issue: Restart is needed to have newly created Colour group included in dialog Configure Folder Sets https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6594 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.0.4 ALPHA
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4004.rar [*] The Bat! is now protected from patches. [-] Certificate import have caused AV (Beta issue) [-] Fixed a minor bug in folder compression. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Maxim, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4004.rar [*] The Bat! is now protected from patches. [-] Certificate import have caused AV (Beta issue) [-] Fixed a minor bug in folder compression. Running well here. -- Gleason Using 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, 5.1, Build 2600. IMAP email provider is Fastmail, which uses Cyrus server software. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Hello all, Thursday, December 27, 2007, Maxim Masiutin wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4004.rar [*] The Bat! is now protected from patches. [-] Certificate import have caused AV (Beta issue) [-] Fixed a minor bug in folder compression. running OK in OTFE and non-OTFE mode. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Hi Jens, on Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:48:29 +0100GMT (27.12.2007, 21:48 +0100GMT here), you wrote: tba4004.rar JF This File is very small, it has 6 Mb instead of 11-12 Mb of the JF previous versions. Is it packed or has something been stripped off? It is a packed RAR file of thebat.exe alone. You just unpack it and replace the existing file with it. The 11-12 MB versions are complete installation files. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) on WinXP, SP2, 5, 1, build 2600 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Hello all, Thursday, December 27, 2007, Peter Meyns wrote: tba4004.rar JF This File is very small, it has 6 Mb instead of 11-12 Mb of the JF previous versions. Is it packed or has something been stripped off? It is a packed RAR file of thebat.exe alone. You just unpack it and replace the existing file with it. The 11-12 MB versions are complete installation files. new protexted exe has 6MB, like RAR has 6MB too, because it is internally compressed. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin, am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2007 um 20:35 schrieben Sie: tba4004.rar This File is very small, it has 6 Mb instead of 11-12 Mb of the previous versions. Is it packed or has something been stripped off? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Hello Maxim, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4004.rar So far so good. No noticeable changes from previous version. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Guten Tag Peter Meyns, am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2007 um 21:54 schrieben Sie: It is a packed RAR file of thebat.exe alone. I didn't talk about the .rar File, i talked about the .exe File. Therefor the answer from Marek Mikus following is usable to me. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Hi Maxim, Thursday, December 27, 2007, 12:35:26 PM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4004.rar [*] The Bat! is now protected from patches. [-] Certificate import have caused AV (Beta issue) [-] Fixed a minor bug in folder compression. Running well in all the functions I use, including also AntiSpam Sniper 2.7.1.5.. Bob Riley -- Using The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.2: Missing Help
Hello Zygmunt, On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:49:47 +0100 GMT (28/12/2007, 00:49 +0700 GMT), Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: Clicking on Help in the main menu does nothing here. Hitting F1 results in an error message: Missing context help topic 14028 [OK] ZW This is quite unexpected message because this number regards File ZW Encrypt/Sign item in main menu. Help support for it was added in ZW 4.0.0.3 version. I have the CHM file maintained by me for Polish users ZW and have no problems. I skipped 4.0.0.3 and get the same errors with 4.0.0.4 that I got with 4.0.0.2. -- Cheers, Thomas. FRISBEETARISM: The belief in when you die your spirit gets stuck on the roof http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, at 21:35:26 [GMT +0200] (which was 20:35 where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4004.rar [*] The Bat! is now protected from patches. [-] Certificate import have caused AV (Beta issue) [-] Fixed a minor bug in folder compression. Up and running, noticed a much smaller file but in the mean time have read why ;-) -- Henk _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.0.4 (ALPHA) Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.5 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org pgpK1a5jms5YZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.4 ALPHA
Dear Jens, -- Freitag, 28. Dezember 2007, 00:03:40: It is a packed RAR file of thebat.exe alone. I didn't talk about the .rar File, i talked about the .exe File. Therefor the answer from Marek Mikus following is usable to me. I just realize that I didn't download the msi. Also I couldn't find any link related to v4. could please someone post it? Many thanks -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html