5.0.8 and MailWasher
Hi, I check first all mails with MailWasher and then start TheBat from MailWasher. With version 5.0.8 it, however, doesn't start exactly. It will take some minutes that TheBat.exe starts, as I can see under processes but it didn't open full (it is like frozen). I have to close it using Strg+Alt+Del and to start it separately. Going back to 4.2.44.2 it works, as it should. But when starting this version I always get the information of a newer version 5.0.8. It's nerving, because this version has some problems! -- Best regards, Roland I use TheBat! v4.2.44.2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3! Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.8 and MailWasher
Hi Roland, Going back to 4.2.44.2 it works, as it should. But when starting this version I always get the information of a newer version 5.0.8. It's nerving, because this version has some problems! Go to preferences - Updates and uncheck the option 'Check for updates' there. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.2.40 under Windows 7 64 bit POP3 only. Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hi, R It is a beta test group in order to FIND these issues so they R can be fixed. They have fixed a TON of issues and rewritten the program. And came up with _this_? I think once and for all it has been proven that at least one of the following is true: - You can't write a complex program using Delphi. - RIT can't maintain a program of TheBat's complexity. How long has it been from the last v4 to the first v5 release? A year? And this is supposed to be the result? Come on! R We all want the bat to keep getting better and better :) We don't want to write it ourselves. And RIT obviously can't handle the job either. -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 pgpC2rU7e2MMN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
dear Alto, Sunday, April 17, 2011, 12:21:50 PM, you wrote: And came up with _this_? - RIT can't maintain a program of TheBat's complexity. We don't want to write it ourselves. And RIT obviously can't handle the job either. Maybe you better watch in your face attitude and stop knocking Ritlabs down like this. I believe at least half the world is full of people who know how things are not done...strangely there seem to be few great complex products actually done by those. Ritlabs do a terrific job, they still have a terrific program around. I believe that's why you are on this list, too. Yes, they have been concentrating on too much fancy stuff rather than to get existing stuff work right (IMAP, the HTML editor is still a joke). Yes, I have been doing my share of whining around for functional IMAP, for example. Yes, the guy who decided to ship this present V5 (what funny connotations does this have, hopefully the damage won't be as large) should get his bottom lit up, but none of that is a reason to present Ritlabs as a buch of high school janitors. So it's up to them to learn from this, up to us to wait for a real release...only in your facing is not going to help anyone. Calm down and enjoy the beautiful week-end. -- Viktor Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folder tree in Copy/Move messages to displays all folders closed (used to be: open state copies the folder tree)
Hello! Since the beta stage of V5, there seems to be a change in how the Copy/Move messages to dialog. In 4.2.42 the folders being open/closed used to copy their state in the main folder tree http://www.offline.cz/hostbits/tbbeta/tbbeta5_2011-03-01_muvfldrs01.jpg Version 5 though http://www.offline.cz/hostbits/tbbeta/tbbeta5_2011-03-01_muvfldrs02.jpg shows them all closed. On the screenshot you can see the difference between the folder tree and the dialog's one (my folder tree has all accounts and many folders open, in the dialog only the current account is open, everything else closed). Is this a feature (shorter initial view)? I hope not, because that would take from us the possibility to customize what's going to be open depending on the user's mode of use (typically, you'd have those folders you use most often open in the folder tree - it's a waste of time to have to open them all in the move dialog as well; and yes, I do use that dialog to actually move messages between accounts) Cheers -- Viktor Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hi, VK Maybe you better watch in your face attitude and stop knocking Ritlabs VK down like this. Does it look to you that RIT would be up to the job? This is not an insult. It's an observation. VK Ritlabs do a terrific job, they still have a terrific program around. I see, that answeres the question. You obviously have a different expectation to software than me. My playing days are over. I expect software to actually work. VK Calm down and enjoy the beautiful week-end. You did realize that I hardly wrote a single mail during the whole v5 beta phase? I intentionally held back even though what had been presented was of abysmal quality. It was work in progress, maybe improvements were just around the corner. When it suddenly became clear that they actually intended to release _this_, no further comment had been necessary, either. It was RITs one and only chance to regain some trust and reputation. They blew it, big time. -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 pgp9zGUoGlEnv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hello Alto, Sunday, April 17, 2011, 1:44:26 PM, you wrote: AS My playing days are over. Good. Now you could try to improve the way you communicate. Did it ever occur to you that insulting seldom leads to getting what you want? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.2.44.2 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 3 (0 days 17:27:12) on Dual Intel Pentium III Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hello Richard, On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:12:07 -0400GMT Richard Newman wrote: RN Add #4 to my gripes and inconveniences: RN 4) The filter to move and mark as read, does not mark as read. I cannot confirm this, here such a filter works as expected. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! 5.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 In case of doubt, make it sound convincing. Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hello Alto, Sunday, April 17, 2011, 1:44:26 PM, you wrote: You did realize that I hardly wrote a single mail during the whole v5 beta phase? I intentionally held back even though what had been presented was of abysmal quality. It was work in progress, maybe clear that they actually intended to release _this_, no further comment had been necessary, either. Maybe, just *maybe* and *sometimes* it's better to speak up when you just get the hint of a suspicion that things may not be going quite the way you'd like them to, than to *expect* and be disappointed. Funnywise this reminds me on all the GFs I tried to teach the same: speak up on time, don't silently expect and be disappointed later. Seems like they aren't the only ones exhibiting this pattern. It was RITs one and only chance to regain some trust and reputation. They blew it, big time. Well... And you, for your part, didn't help them do otherwise. It's too easy to silently let someone run against a knife and then shout up loud after they did. Everyone *can* do that...only is that quite what you want to do? -- Viktor Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hi, VK Maybe, just *maybe* and *sometimes* it's better to speak up when you just VK get the hint of a suspicion that things may not be going [...] Just prior to the release of v5, many voices did. Voices in much better standing with RIT than me, and they still were ignored. -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 pgpdaAFWIKHqF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar What's new in 5.0.8.1 since 5.0.8: [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not functional [-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages [-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were switched off, messages still were marked as read [-] (#0007784) message about old format in new versions [-] Handling reply/forward commands for inline viewers of messages wasn't working properly [-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically [-] (#0008575) 5.0.8 AVs while switching between pictures tabs in message view [-] (#0008606) Deletion attachments was not refreshing messages in the Finder's message list [-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed [-] IMAP download preferences specified in account settings wasn't used by default in all folders [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in non-MIME format [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hi Maxim, Sunday, April 17, 2011, 11:38:42 AM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar Running well for me so far in Gmail's IMAP system. However, my input must be understood as coming from a non-expert user who pushes the limits of TB. Now, hopefully you'll be able to rest at home this evening (now - in your time zone; here it is only a bit after noon). -- Take Care, Bob -- Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me. This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to accept, embrace and share beyond all manmade boundaries. Using The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar What's new in 5.0.8.1 since 5.0.8: [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not functional [-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages [-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were switched off, messages still were marked as read [-] (#0007784) message about old format in new versions [-] Handling reply/forward commands for inline viewers of messages wasn't working properly [-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically [-] (#0008575) 5.0.8 AVs while switching between pictures tabs in message view [-] (#0008606) Deletion attachments was not refreshing messages in the Finder's message list [-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed [-] IMAP download preferences specified in account settings wasn't used by default in all folders [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in non-MIME format [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping That error when trying to associate file types with the Bat when loading should really be fixed. That is not a good one for new users --- Configure file protocol handling --- Some of extensions/protocols could not be associated. It is possible you do not have access rights to do that or some software prevents you from that. It was not possible to associate with: .EML (message files in RFC-822 format) --- OK --- -- Rick If you can dream it, you can do it. - Walt Disney v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:4.2.44.2 to 5.0.8
Hello Rick, On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, at 20:47:02 [which was on Sunday at 01:47 where I live] you wrote: DE And frankly I am disappointed. There are lot's of us who are disappointed ... It is a beta test group in order to FIND these issues so they can be fixed. Ok this is a beta list. But my 'Gripe' is that I am using the public release. They should be fixed before a public release. ... A reoccurring theme of TB! beta's and public release is that 'New features' are added with out fixing all the outstanding bugs. -- Cheers David mailto:da...@elliott.uk.com Thought for the day : Wide awake in dreamland. running TB! ver 5.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1.7600 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Correction! re: TB 5.0.8.1 beta
Hi Everyone, I must make a correction in what I wrote below. It should have read, However, my input must be understood as coming from a non-expert user who DOES NOT PUSH the limits of TB. Sorry for the error. Bob Riley This is a forwarded message From: Bob Riley bbri...@gmail.com To: Maxim Masiutin tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011, 12:12:49 PM Subject: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) ===8==Original message text=== Hi Maxim, Sunday, April 17, 2011, 11:38:42 AM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar Running well for me so far in Gmail's IMAP system. However, my input must be understood as coming from a non-expert user who pushes the limits of TB. Now, hopefully you'll be able to rest at home this evening (now - in your time zone; here it is only a bit after noon). -- Take Care, Bob Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hello all, Sunday, April 17, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is really crazy! [-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were switched off, messages still were marked as read confirm as fixed [-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed confirm as fixed [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in non-MIME format confirm as fixed -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folder tree in Copy/Move messages to displays all folders closed (used to be: open state copies the folder tree)
Hello! Since the beta stage of V5, there seems to be a change in how the Copy/Move messages to dialog. In 4.2.42 the folders being open/closed used to copy their state in the main folder tree http://www.offline.cz/hostbits/tbbeta/tbbeta5_2011-03-01_muvfldrs01.jpg Version 5 though http://www.offline.cz/hostbits/tbbeta/tbbeta5_2011-03-01_muvfldrs02.jpg shows them all closed. On the screenshot you can see the difference between the folder tree and the dialog's one (my folder tree has all accounts and many folders open, in the dialog only the current account is open, everything else closed). Is this a feature (shorter initial view)? I hope not, because that would take from us the possibility to customize what's going to be open depending on the user's mode of use (typically, you'd have those folders you use most often open in the folder tree - it's a waste of time to have to open them all in the move dialog as well; and yes, I do use that dialog to actually move messages between accounts) I didn't like it AT FIRST, but I have come to appreciate it. I am a keyboard user as much as possible and this allows for much faster movement through the tree. -- Rick When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar What's new in 5.0.8.1 since 5.0.8: [-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages FIXED! Thank you! -- Rick Necrophiliacs need love too! v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hello, Sunday, April 17, 2011 at 19:38:42, Maxim wrote : MM The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar ... and graphic smileys are back :) -- Regards, Francismailto:fran...@dhumes.fr French translator of TB! and ASS Message handmade on TB! v.5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 7601 Service Pack 1 AntispamSniper for TB! 3.2.6.4 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1
On Sunday, April 17, 2011, 21:31:45, Marek Mikus wrote: First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is really crazy! Can't confirm. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] A man should be greater than some of his parts. -- Mother Sigafoos's Observation Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
On Sunday, April 17, 2011 Marek Mikus, [MM] wrote: snipped a bit First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is really crazy! Confirmed here -- Regards, Ron Secord The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Professional AntispamSniper Pro 3.2.6.4 POP3 Accounts No OTFE Windows 7 6.1 7600 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Maxim Masiutin: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar What's new in 5.0.8.1 since 5.0.8: [-] Message List: Sorting Subject/From/To groups by latest time was not functional [-] (#0008371) Inline graphics disappear when opening multiple messages [-] When both options to automatically mark message as read were switched off, messages still were marked as read [-] (#0007784) message about old format in new versions [-] Handling reply/forward commands for inline viewers of messages wasn't working properly [-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically [-] (#0008575) 5.0.8 AVs while switching between pictures tabs in message view [-] (#0008606) Deletion attachments was not refreshing messages in the Finder's message list [-] (#0007397) HTML QT included in TEXT Folder template produces HTML code in Microed [-] IMAP download preferences specified in account settings wasn't used by default in all folders [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in non-MIME format [-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping Please, don't forget to fix manual rethreading. I'm reduced to keep the executable file of v.4 in the program folder and launch it instead of v.5 everytime I need to rethread a message, and it happens an awful lot of times. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Please, don't forget to fix manual rethreading. I'm reduced to keep the executable file of v.4 in the program folder and launch it instead of v.5 everytime I need to rethread a message, and it happens an awful lot of times. You might want to add a note to the item in bug tracker that it is still broken in this release https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8542 -- Rick Dreams come true on this side of the Rainbow too! v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1
On Sunday, April 17, 2011, at 22:36:14 [UTC+0200] (Sunday, April 17, 2011 22:36 my local time) Jernej Simončič wrote: On Sunday, April 17, 2011, 21:31:45, Marek Mikus wrote: First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is really crazy! Can't confirm. Confirmed, but the number of opened editor windows depends on the position of replied message in the thread. Can't confirm here -- Rick It's only when we truly know and understand that we have a limited time on earth and that we have no way of knowing when our time is up, we will then begin to live each day to the fullest, as if it was the only one we had Elisabeth Kubler-Ross v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hello Maxim, Sunday, April 17, 2011, 1:38:42 PM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5081.rar UR MM [-] Replied filters wasn't executed automatically Seems to be working MM [-] (#0008609) the TO field was not focused when a message was forwarded in non-MIME format Seems fixed. Not fixed: 1) Open address book focuses on Search results rather than Personal Address Book. 2) CTL + DEL permanently deletes messages in a folder instead of moving them to trash. THIS IS A SERIOUS CHANGE IN FEATURES AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED! -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangro...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v5.0.8.1 (BETA) on Windows XP6 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hi Marek On Sunday, April 17, 2011 9:31:45 PM you wrote: First of all, Reply now opens editors for all messages in thread, this is really crazy! Can't confirm over here. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA) Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
