Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup
Hello Thomas, 13 Jan 2002, 10:14:27 am, you wrote: I can produce the euro sign by holding down the alt key and pressing 1-2-8 on the numpad. 128 decimal equals 80 hexadecimal on my calculator. Hex A4 is 164 in decimal, which is that funny sun in my conversion table. But then, I might be mixing up ASCII and ANSI again. I am no expert on these topics, but I entered ISO-8859-15 in Google and found some documents (e.g. http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html) stating that in ISO-8859-15 the Euro sign is located at position A4 (hex). -- Best regards, Andreas Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 on Windows 98 4.90 Build 73010104 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup
Hello Thomas, 13. januar 2002, 10:15:48, you wrote: JS Then the ¤uro will come through fine (look the E in this line). TF No, it doesn't. It looks like a little circle with four arms (see TF Cartsten's screenshot euro.png). That's strange... I see the E, not the o (and I didn't play with Conversion TO Window XLat table)... TF It looked fine in your msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF where it was a hex 80, and I can write here: ¤ which is alt-128 on my TF numpad. TF I have no problem with the EUR symbol and the current implemenation of TF TB and its XLAT tables. You don't, but the people you send mail to may have... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] Incompetents often hire able assistants. -- Evelyn's Fifth Rule for Bureaucratic Survival -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jernej, On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:17:41 +0100 GMT (13/01/02, 17:17 +0800 GMT), Jernej Simonèiè wrote: TF It looked fine in your msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TF where it was a hex 80, and I can write here: ¤ which is alt-128 on my Oops, looks like a sun now... TF I have no problem with the EUR symbol and the current implemenation of TF TB and its XLAT tables. JS You don't, but the people you send mail to may have... Obviously. But we are both using ISO-8859-1, aren't we? - -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/28 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) iQA/AwUBPEDm2Gkcopp5STrsEQJvzgCgqbsWwBbN6j+p+L7KaOVJ+lRRFnoAnjwl wJfXII5dJOfKKAvPjiulQZgC =zHEH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup (uro test)
Hello Carsten, 13. januar 2002, 19:41:11, you wrote: CT BTW I hope the developers follow this thread, or does anyone want to CT write a bug report... Let's see, what happens with the ¤uro in the subject... F9 shows the subject of this message like this: Subject: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Re=5B2=5D=3A_8859-15_/_statement_in_German_newsgroup_=28?= =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=A4uro_test=29?= ...and I see the ¤ in my outbox properly... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] If the people of a democracy are allowed to do so, they will vote away the freedoms which are essential to that democracy. -- Putney's Law -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup
Hei, Carsten Thönges wrote: BTW I hope the developers follow this thread, or does anyone want to write a bug report... wrote a short one, pointing to this thread (#221). -- Regards, Günther ¤I$¤£¤ Automatic virus scanning with F-PROT, ROT13 and some S/MIME bugs: http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/index_e.htm TheBat! 1.54 Beta/28, Windows NT 5.0 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup
On 13 January 2002 at 19:13 Günther wrote: Hei, Carsten Thönges wrote: BTW I hope the developers follow this thread, or does anyone want to write a bug report... wrote a short one, pointing to this thread (#221). I've written another one (222) about what is probably a closely related problem (non-ISO-8859-1 characters being, it seems, wrongly replaced by ISO-8859-1 ones in header lines). Complete with picture. Best of British luck to Maxim, Stefan and team trying to fix these character-set-related problems; they are difficult to _explain_, never mind understand! Alastair -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup
Hello Günther, 11. januar 2002, 19:27:52, you wrote: GE Can someone here confirm what he writes? How could possible solutions look GE like? I think I can confirm this - just look at this uro in Source view F9. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/26 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] The number of different hypotheses erected to explain a given biological phenomenon is inversely proportional to the available knowledge. -- Edington's Theory -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 8859-15 / statement in German newsgroup
Hi Günther, GE | But when I type the EUR character in The Bat, then it's not sent with GE | coding a4, but with 80 I can confirm this. GE | This means that you can see 8859-15, but you can't send it. At least the GE | result on receiver's side is dependent on how exactly it follows the GE | 8859-15. On Windows machines that use the same codepage which is common in GE | Germany, this should be no problem. On different operating systems or in GE | different countries it could be a mess. GE Can someone here confirm what he writes? I can. My steps to reproduce (2 ways): I - I created mail with Latin-9 encoding (and EUR-Symbols in it). - Sent it to my local smtp server (hamster). - Opened the message from the Mail.out directory with a hex-editor: EUR-Symbols were displayed as 0x80. - Changed one 0x80 to 0xa4 and reimported the message to TB!: both (80 and a4) were displayed as an EUR-Symbol. --- So: viewing is okay, sending isn't. II - Account properties: [x] Send 8bit as QP. - Create message with Latin-9 and some EUR-Symbols. - View message's source: EUR-Symbol is displayed as =80. I'm no expert in Latin-9 stuff, but _if_ this is a bug, then it is a very serious one. GE How could possible solutions look like? Wait for a bugfix from Ritlabs. Don't use Latin-9 :-( -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/26) Business Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
