Re: Bug with the message editor

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Boris,

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:48:04 +0100 GMT (03/03/2005, 04:48 +0700 GMT),
Boris Anders wrote:

BA> Maybe a hint: Maybe some people didn't open and then close things n
BA> amoutns of times just to see what happens but for another reason.

One valid reason is beta-testing. 

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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Tony Boom]

Hello Boris,

  A reminder of what Boris Anders on TBBETA typed on:
  02 March 2005 at 22:44:59 GMT +0100

BA> Hope a mod can donate this thread a "dead horse" - don't know when I
BA> become really angry about such mails ...

 Angry? Why angry? Thought this was a discussion list. I'm not angry,
 amused yes but not angry.

 I'm amused at your methods of discovering bugs that's all, nothing to get
 angry about.


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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Tony Boom]

Hello Boris,

  A reminder of what Boris Anders on TBBETA typed on:
  02 March 2005 at 22:08:09 GMT +0100

BA> Are you sure, that this bug don't appear if you have wrote 4 new
BA> messages and 4 replys?

 I've no doubt it would if I were to confuse it as much as you seem to.

 I'm not questioning the fact of weather TB! should do it or not, I agree
 with you that it shouldn't. I just find your behaviour as strange as the
 behaviour of the bug itself.

 Right click spell check isn't working by the way... Oh yes, and I er, have no
 toolbar while writing this so sending it is going to be in a round about
 sort of way... ALT+L is buggered too.


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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Boris Anders]

Hello Tony,

Tony Boom wrote (in ):

>> Can't confirm - if they once disappear they're lost until a restart of
>> TheBat! And - I reached it this time, only by "create new message"
>> "reply" "create new message".

> I wasn't actually asking for confirmation however,

Please excuse me.

> I didn't have to close TB! down to get them back.

lucky you.

> I agree it shouldn't happen but,

So I don't see the problem.

> the fact some people just open and then close things X amount of times
> just to see what happens is beyond me.

Maybe a hint: Maybe some people didn't open and then close things n
amoutns of times just to see what happens but for another reason.

> Your supposed to be alpha/beta testing it under normal working
> conditions,

Must read over it. Can you show me the part again please? If not, please
don't tell me what I have to do, or not. Especially how I have to test
TheBat!

> I can't even begin to imagine what your normal working conditions are

You can be sure, that this is not your problem.


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become really angry about such mails ...



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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Tony Boom]

Hello Boris,

  A reminder of what Boris Anders on TBBETA typed on:
  02 March 2005 at 21:48:46 GMT +0100

BA> Can't confirm - if they once disappear they're lost until a restart of
BA> TheBat! And - I reached it this time, only by "create new message"
BA> "reply" "create new message".

 I wasn't actually asking for confirmation however, they did disappear
 after the fourth and reappeared the 5th, I didn't have to close TB! down
 to get them back.

 I agree it shouldn't happen but, the fact some people just open and then
 close things X amount of times just to see what happens is beyond me.

 Your supposed to be alpha/beta testing it under normal working conditions,
 I can't even begin to imagine what your normal working conditions are :)


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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Boris Anders]

Hello Tony,

Tony Boom wrote (in ):

> Again, why keep changing back and forth between editors,

I disagree here totaly. TheBat! shouldn't care whether user behavior
is logical or not, but just do what user wants. And if user wants to
reopen 1 000 000 times the editor, TheBat! should to it.  where's
the problem?

> pick your editor, write your message, send it, end of story.

Are you sure, that this bug don't appear if you have wrote 4 new
messages and 4 replys?


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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Tony Boom]

Hello Cees,

  A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
  02 March 2005 at 21:47:04 GMT +0100

C>  whahahahaa.. you just made my day! :-

 You made me giggle a bit as well!


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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Tony Boom]

Hello Boris,

  A reminder of what Boris Anders on TBBETA typed on:
  02 March 2005 at 21:46:13 GMT +0100

BA> . But if you don't like this bug, whats with Bug1?

 Again, why keep changing back and forth between editors, pick your editor,
 write your message, send it, end of story.

 Here's another bug I found.

 Open The Bat, leave it running for 30 minutes, close The Bat.
 Open Outlook Express, leave it running for 30 minutes, close it.
 Open The Bat and you should find quite a few messages missing.

 Anyone confirm?


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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Boris Anders]

Hello Tony,

Tony Boom wrote (in ):

>> do it four times and the toolbars and menu will disapear

> Do it a 5th time and they all come back again... Shhh, it's a kind of
> magic.

Can't confirm - if they once disappear they're lost until a restart of
TheBat! And - I reached it this time, only by "create new message"
"reply" "create new message".

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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Tony Boom]

Hello Cees,

  A reminder of what Cees on TBBETA typed on:
  02 March 2005 at 21:31:34 GMT +0100

C>  Very odd behaviour.

 Oh yes, very, very odd behaviour indeed!


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Re[2]: Bug with the message editor

[Cees]

Het was op woensdag 2 maart 2005 om 21:41 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Bug 
with the message editor' :

Hallo Tony,
  
FL>> do it four times and the toolbars and menu will disapear

TB>  Do it a 5th time and they all come back again... Shhh, it's a kind of
TB>  magic.

TB>  Also, if you do it 5,974 times in quick succession it wears the lettering
TB>  off the F4 key.

 whahahahaa.. you just made my day! :-


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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Boris Anders]

Hello Tony,

Tony Boom wrote (in ):

>  Forgive my ignorance but how the hell do you find something like that out?

I simply played around ...

>  At least that's the the way I do it!

Now, I'm realy surprised ...

> Who in their right mind would open and close the message editor half a
> dozen times just to see how many times it takes to make the toolbars
> disappear?

It musn't be a half dozen times - it sometimes appears after the second
time. But if you don't like this bug, whats with Bug1?



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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Tony Boom]

Hello Frank,

  A reminder of what Frank Lahrmann on TBBETA typed on:
  02 March 2005 at 21:23:57 GMT +0100

FL> do it four times and the toolbars and menu will disapear

 Do it a 5th time and they all come back again... Shhh, it's a kind of
 magic.

 Also, if you do it 5,974 times in quick succession it wears the lettering
 off the F4 key.


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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Tony Boom]

Hello Boris,

  A reminder of what Boris Anders on TBBETA typed on:
  02 March 2005 at 21:05:12 GMT +0100

BA> Bug 2: Start TheBat!
BA> create a new message - close message editor
BA> reply - close the message editor
BA> create a new message - close message editor
BA> reply - close the message editor
BA> create a new message - close message editor
BA> reply
BA> Bug - all toolbars of message editor are disappeared.

BA> Any confirmations?

 Forgive my ignorance but how the hell do you find something like that out?

 Here's a fix for it...

 Start The Bat!
 Create new message.
 Write message.
 Send message.

 At least that's the the way I do it!

 Who in their right mind would open and close the message editor half a
 dozen times just to see how many times it takes to make the toolbars
 disappear? Try to get out more :)


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Re[2]: Bug with the message editor

[Cees]

Het was op woensdag 2 maart 2005 om 21:24 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Bug 
with the message editor' :

Hallo Frank,

>> Bug 2: Start TheBat!
>> create a new message - close message editor
>> reply - close the message editor
>> create a new message - close message editor
>> reply - close the message editor
>> create a new message - close message editor
>> reply
>> Bug - all toolbars of message editor are disappeared.

>> Any confirmations?

FL> Confirmed,
FL> just hit the reply-button - close the message editor
FL> do it four times and the toolbars and menu will disapear

 confirmed; that confused me too. Closing and restarting TheBat! solves is.
 Very odd behaviour.

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Re: Bug with the message editor

[Frank Lahrmann]

Hello tbbeta,

just now (on 03/02/2005 at 21:08) Boris Anders [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]in 
 wrote:

> Bug 2: Start TheBat!
> create a new message - close message editor
> reply - close the message editor
> create a new message - close message editor
> reply - close the message editor
> create a new message - close message editor
> reply
> Bug - all toolbars of message editor are disappeared.

> Any confirmations?

Confirmed,

just hit the reply-button - close the message editor

do it four times and the toolbars and menu will disapear


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Bug with the message editor

[Boris Anders]

Hello Stefan,

Stefan Tanurkov wrote (in ):

> Fixes are made for:
> Editor menus and shortcuts (not all yet :-)

- if you use MicroEd Format > table is still emtpy (I guess table should
be hidden for MicroEd?)

Bug 1: Start TheBat!
create a new message
switch from MicroEd to Plain text (windows)
switch form Plain Text (windows) to HTML/plain
Bug - it stays with the Plain Text (windows) (This only works, if you
don't change the message text during switching)


Bug 2: Start TheBat!
create a new message - close message editor
reply - close the message editor
create a new message - close message editor
reply - close the message editor
create a new message - close message editor
reply
Bug - all toolbars of message editor are disappeared.

Any confirmations?




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