Calendars
Hello Avi! On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 1:25:38 AM you wrote: > You must keep in mind that when it comes to dates and calendars, the > standards vary widely. > ISO has some logic for changing the numbering of the days so that the > first day of the week is Monday and not Sunday. But it is not > necessarily the only logic or the best rationale. As I stated earlier, > I prefer to maintain the historical and cultural legacy on which the > numbering of days is based. > My personal preference has nothing to do with religion (even though at > least the Western numbering of years is closely linked to a religious > event, the birth of Jesus). Nevertheless, it is worth mentioning that > earlier calendars than the Gregorian or even the Julian calendar also > recognized a seven-day week in which Saturday was the seventh day and > not the sixth. Consider the Ten Commandments of Moses (circa 1250 BC). > In those 10 Commandments you are instructed to keep the sabbath day > holy, because God allegedly rested on that day (a rather absurd > concept, if you ask me, but many religious people - Jewsih, Christian, > and Moslem - take this seriously). Avi, I am not convinced that it is the resting day chosen as the first day of the week. Neither the tradition this came out nor Genesis provide this, to the contrary: In the better known creation myth of Judeo-Christian-Islamic belief* the creator rested on the last day - Sabbath. And Sabbath (don't nail me on any Reformed sect in Judaism) starts with sunset Friday evening and ends with sunset on Saturday, thus Sunday would be the first working day of the week. I am not quite sure about the Julian calendar, but the Gregorian was equally influenced by the traditions of the Bible and the Julian calendar. *Look into the King James version if you are English speaking, the current German version based upon Luther or any other unabridged Bible. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Ein Jubiläum ist ein Datum, an dem eine Null für eine Null von mehreren Nullen geehrt wird. (Sir Peter Ustinov) Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 1:56:44 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: > And Sabbath (don't nail me on any Reformed sect in Judaism) starts > with sunset Friday evening and ends with sunset on Saturday, thus > Sunday would be the first working day of the week. Sunday, perhaps is the day where God said "let there be light" In Spanish, I seem to recall it starts with Monday, which is Lunes and so presumable related to the moon as well, and ended with Domingo, which I think has nothing to do with the sun. I do not recall the days in French, never studied Latin, or any Germanic languages (other than English) and gave up on Russian soon after getting the counting from 1 to 10. Non-European languages are beyond me as well. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
Hello Dwight, A reminder of what Dwight A Corrin typed on: 09 November 2004 at 21:58:22 GMT +0100 DAC> In Spanish, I seem to recall it starts with Monday, I work from Saturday to Friday, 24/7/365.25. As a Foster Parent you can't have a day off from caring for kids. All my kids go to school from Monday to Friday. All they say every day when they get home is "Are we going camping at the weekend?" So for me, that's when it is. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 21:12 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 22:21, Tony Boom wrote: > I work from Saturday to Friday, 24/7/365.25. How do you know you do not work from Wednesday to Tuesday? :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
Hello Dwight! On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 10:00:27 PM you wrote: > Sunday, perhaps is the day where God said "let there be light" Now, I - the avowed atheist - do have only an AV here but a quick look tells me that it is the third sentence of Genesis, "Let there be light". And it is Genesis 2/2 in which it says "... and he rested on the seventh day." For whatever reason, that 7th day was honoured by the chosen ones, the people God tested throughout the whole Old Testament, as Sabbath. The rest of the history of the Resting Day I recounted last time, I won't do it again. As so many other folks already wrote (not with this wording, granted): Nothing to see here, move on, everything's alright. For the sake of cultural relativism, let RITLabs make TB as flexible as possible, Jews and traditionalists may want to start their week on the last day of the week-end, others may choose Saturday, I do like the ISO-norm, if only to make business easy. And I have no idea on what day Chinese, Japanese, Aborigines or Heterocephalus glaber do start their (working) week. It's totally arbitrary! -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. (Derek Leveret) Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
Hello Marcus, A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on: 09 November 2004 at 22:35:20 GMT +0100 MO> How do you know you do not work from Wednesday to Tuesday? :-) Because that's the shift my Wife works :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 21:43 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
Hello Dierk, On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:37:38 +0100 GMT (10/11/2004, 04:37 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH> For the sake of cultural relativism, let RITLabs make TB as flexible DH> as possible, Jews and traditionalists may want to start their week on DH> the last day of the week-end, others may choose Saturday, I do like DH> the ISO-norm, if only to make business easy. And I have no idea on DH> what day Chinese, Japanese, Aborigines or Heterocephalus glaber do DH> start their (working) week. I don't know about the others, but "real" Chinese work seven days a week! ;-) DH> It's totally arbitrary! I agree. And that's why an international standard was invented in order to avoid misunderstandings. Day 1 in the airline industry is Monday, and even though I grew up with Sunday being the first day of the week, I have changed my paradigm. It doesn't really matter, the point is that people understand one another. Hence, I like the ISO norm as well. -- Cheers, Thomas. When a actress saw her first strands of grey hair, she thought she'd dye. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/