Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello Martin, > Again my question about icons... I assume you are copying _all_ files included in the *.rar archive to your TB directory, correct? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello Martin, > When I have a look to the icons file (which came with RAR) with a > graphic software I see that the pictures *have* low resolution. Now _that_ is really strange because if it is from the rar archive it _is_ the the same file we are all using. I'm sending you by PM a copy of mine, let us know how it looks. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello Martin, A reminder of what Martin Schoch typed on: March 12, 2005 at 12:49:08 GMT +0100 MS> Again my question about icons... MS> In version 3.0.2.8 the icons in the standard menu bar are very MS> clear. See icon3028.png. MS> In version 3.0.9.5 the icons have a bad resulution. See MS> icon3095.png. MS> Yes - the Options - Preferences - General - High color images option MS> is set. Yes I am seeing the odd icons as well. It seems to be just the ones you selected to show as the rest of the icons are for the most part OK. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello Martin, A reminder of what Martin Schoch on TBBETA typed on: 12 March 2005 at 14:59:46 GMT +0100 MS> Is there any other "new_icons.png"? I'm using the icons that came with the rar file and they're perfect. See attached. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) :gentoo: www.gentoo.org <> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello Martin, >> I'm using the icons that came with the rar file and they're perfect. See >> attached. > > Strange - yes I see, they are perfect - perfectly displayed here > with IrfanView. My "background processor" has been thinking about this problem since you brought it up yesterday and I think I now understand what is happening. 1.- When I replied to your first message yesterday I (unintentionally) lied to you. First I understood that you were referring to _all_ icons and second I just took a quick look at my toolbar and I thought mine were "perfect". 2.- Taking a more detailed look yesterday after our PM exchange and the other messages posted in this thread, I realised that I was seeing your same problem (the 'stairway effect' which you called 'bad resolution') with only 3 icons: Address Book, Print and Delete, which were actually the ones you had included in your attached PNG. 3.- If you take a look at the other icons, mainly those in main toolbar, all or mostly all have borders that are at 0, 90 or 45 degrees. With these inclinations they can be easily drawn as a straight line of pixels. But if you look at the AB, Print and Delete buttons, where most borders don't have these inclinations, you see this effect that I call "stairway effect". 4.- But, how come some people see them all perfect? This "big question" was answered, at least for my case, just a while ago. I remembered about the ClearType technology developed by Microsoft for improving font display (http://www.microsoft.com/typography/WhatIsClearType.mspx) and then is when I realised that there is a difference, a big difference, if you display the icons in an LCD monitor or a normal analogue one. In my case, icons show perfect on an analogue monitor but show the stairway effect on my big LCD one. There may also be a difference depending on screen sizes and the resolution being used, but I haven't checked this. 5.- Finally, yesterday I was trying to somewhat correlate the problem to whether Windows XP or Windows 2000 was being used. It looked like, but I did not fully verify this, that those using XP did not see the problem. I am not at all familiar with XP and I don't have any system with XP so I can't verify this. But, if those using XP _and_ an LCD monitor see all the icons just fine, it may be (and this is just a guess) that XP is using for graphics display some kind of technology similar to the ClearType one for fonts. That is all I can think of. I will now turn my "background processor" off for a while ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello Martin, > Why the difference between version 3.0.8.2 and 3.0.9.5? > > In 3.0.8.2 the icons are well displayed - without any "stairs" and > as far I as I know the internal icon definition is also a PNG file. I assume you mean 3.0.2.8 (3.0.2.10 in my case) and I never thought about that because I use my own glyphs.bmp and in 3.0.2.10 (and 3.0.2.8) it does override all icons, including toolbar icons which are not overridden in 3.0.9.5. But you are darn right here. I have just switched to 3.0.2.10 without using my glyphs.bmp (so, using the new-icons.png) and the toolbar icons are displayed much better, even the three 'bad' ones. H! It seems that, after all, TB has something to do with this issue. The only thing I can think off at the moment is Themes, which were not used in 3.0.2.x betas. Could this be the actual problem? Maybe, or maybe Themes mixed with the fact of using Win2K/XP and an LCD monitor or not. I don't know. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello MAU, A reminder of what MAU on TBBETA typed on: 13 March 2005 at 16:33:05 GMT +0100 M> But, if those using XP _and_ an LCD monitor see all M> the icons just fine, Which I do on two machines, both XP with LCD monitors. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello Martin, A reminder of what Martin Schoch on TBBETA typed on: 13 March 2005 at 17:04:47 GMT +0100 MS> I couldn't install TheBat on the XP machine so I can't say how the MS> icons are displayed within TheBat. Why not just view the glyphs file on it's own, no need for a full install to see them, you just need the .png file. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.9.5 Return (pre-beta) :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Icons standard menu bar bad resulution
Hello MAU, Sunday, March 13, 2005, 9:32:28 AM, you wrote: M> Excellent synopsis. Looks as if the problem is there for everyone, just not as visible depending on circumstances. M> That is all I can think of. I will now turn my "background processor" off M> for a while Yes, turn it off and let it cool down before it flames out. ;) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.9.5 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
