Re: MSI Installation

[vitalie vrabie]

hi,

Friday, May 5, 2006, 4:22:59 PM, you wrote:




>


havenВґt found anything in the TechNet / Knowledgebase. :(





one more thing. MS Malware Romover got updated yesterday. the KB article says it could hang in some cases. it does not explicitly say what happens when/if some file was being analyzed at that time. that might be your case.




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Re: MSI Installation

[vitalie vrabie]

hi,

Friday, May 5, 2006, 4:22:59 PM, you wrote:




>


haven't found anything in the TechNet / Knowledgebase. :(





MSI 3.1 seems to be in heavy development and its KB seems to be quite fluid these times. :(

apart from them, you can at least doublecheck the digital signature of the downloaded file. is it okay?


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Re[2]: MSI Installation

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haven´t found anything in the TechNet / Knowledgebase. :(



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Re: MSI Installation

[vitalie vrabie]

hi,

Friday, May 5, 2006, 1:03:41 PM, you wrote:




>


msi locally stored and started.





that's harder. what does Microsoft support say on this?


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Re[2]: MSI Installation

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with no browser window open!! msi locally stored and started.

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Re: MSI Installation

[vitalie vrabie]

hi,

Thursday, May 4, 2006, 6:54:51 AM, you wrote:




>


On both test systems everything is uptodate and file is local. 





umm... started directly from a browser which is set up to clear the cache upon exit and closed the browser as soon as the first installer window showed up?


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On both test systems everything is uptodate and file is local. 
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Re: MSI Installation

[vitalie vrabie]

hi,

Wednesday, May 3, 2006, 10:05:27 PM, you wrote:

> I only get an error 1305 when trying to use the 3.80.x Beta MSIs.
> (asking to me make sure the msi file exists! :)

make sure your MSI engine is up-to-date,
copy the MSI file to a local drive that is not a SUBSTed one,
then try again.


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MSI Installation

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I only get an error 1305 when trying to use the 3.80.x Beta MSIs.
(asking to me make sure the msi file exists! :)

Could somebody please send me a link or file (exe only!) for the
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Re[2]: Icons and MSI installation

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> I don't use 3.65.03 (yet), but with the previous versions, I cannot
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> start-up of any new version.

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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello MAU,

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 you wrote in 

M> Try it. Don't delete the folder, just move it somewhere else for your
M> test.

Just an ordinary close and restart hasn't created any problems so I'll
see what happens with the next MSI.

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Re: Icons and MSI installation

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Hello Richard,

> Just as a matter of interest, in your main TB! Folder where the
> programme files are kept, do you have a sub folder "Program Files/The
> Bat!/Icons_wrk" with one file "my_new_icons.png" in it?

No, I don't.

> They are the main TB! icons and I was wondering, if I deleted that
> folder, it might solve the problem as my icons and batskin.xml are in
> my main TB! folder.

Try it. Don't delete the folder, just move it somewhere else for your
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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello MAU,

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 you wrote in 

M> Why do you think I asked? Next time you do an msi install just exit the
M> wizard and start TB from you desktop shortcut and see what happens.

Except that Thomas opens the MSI install the same way as me (with the
tick box) but has not had the same problems. However I shall certainly
do it next time and see what happens.

Just as a matter of interest, in your main TB! Folder where the
programme files are kept, do you have a sub folder "Program Files/The
Bat!/Icons_wrk" with one file "my_new_icons.png" in it? They are the
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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[MAU]

Hello Richard,

> do you mean when the install wizard asks you if you want to start TB?
M>> Or is it after exiting the install wizard?
>
> So far I always have clicked the start TB instantly box. You don't
> suppose that could be the reason do you?

Why do you think I asked? Next time you do an msi install just exit the
wizard and start TB from you desktop shortcut and see what happens.

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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 you wrote in 

RW>> So far I always have clicked the start TB instantly box. You don't
RW>> suppose that could be the reason do you?

TF> No, because that's what I do too.

Oh well. I'll just live with it then because it seems to be "me"
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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:24:03 +0100 GMT (17/01/2006, 06:24 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

M>> do you mean when the install wizard asks you if you want to start TB?
M>> Or is it after exiting the install wizard?

RW> So far I always have clicked the start TB instantly box. You don't
RW> suppose that could be the reason do you?

No, because that's what I do too.

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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello MAU,

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 you wrote in 

M> do you mean when the install wizard asks you if you want to start TB?
M> Or is it after exiting the install wizard?

So far I always have clicked the start TB instantly box. You don't
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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[MAU]

Hello Richard,

> I've never mentioned this before as it's so trivial. I have my own Icon
> set and, every time I do an MSI install, I have to restart The Bat!
> twice as the first start up after the install brings up the standard
> icons. I close down, restart straight away and there are my own icons.

I've never seen that happen here. Otherwise, as you say in your other
message, I would have brought it up here.

When you say "the first start up after install", do you mean when the
install wizard asks you if you want to start TB? Or is it after exiting
the install wizard?

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Re: Icons and MSI installation

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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, at 00:05:59 [GMT +0700] (which was 18:05 where I
live) Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:11:17 +0100 GMT (16/01/2006, 23:11 +0700 GMT),
> Richard Wakeford wrote:

RW>> I've never mentioned this before as it's so trivial. I have my own Icon
RW>> set and, every time I do an MSI install, I have to restart The Bat!
RW>> twice as the first start up after the install brings up the standard
RW>> icons. I close down, restart straight away and there are my own icons.

> I don't use 3.65.03 (yet), but with the previous versions, I cannot
> confirm. I use MAU's "Yellowish Icons" and they show up on first
> start-up of any new version.

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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 you wrote in 

TF> I use MAU's "Yellowish Icons" and they show up on first start-up of
TF> any new version.

Yes, and I know MAU would have said if he'd had problems. I have my Icon
set and Batskin.xml in the main TB! folder so can't work out why I
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Re: Icons and MSI installation

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:11:17 +0100 GMT (16/01/2006, 23:11 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

RW> I've never mentioned this before as it's so trivial. I have my own Icon
RW> set and, every time I do an MSI install, I have to restart The Bat!
RW> twice as the first start up after the install brings up the standard
RW> icons. I close down, restart straight away and there are my own icons.

I don't use 3.65.03 (yet), but with the previous versions, I cannot
confirm. I use MAU's "Yellowish Icons" and they show up on first
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Icons and MSI installation

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello,

I've never mentioned this before as it's so trivial. I have my own Icon
set and, every time I do an MSI install, I have to restart The Bat!
twice as the first start up after the install brings up the standard
icons. I close down, restart straight away and there are my own icons.

As I said, nothing drastic but I was wondering if anyone else is having
the same problem as I know at least one other TB! user is using my icon
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Re[4]: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

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Hello Maxim,
Friday, May 13, 2005, 5:48:22 AM, you wrote:

>>>Mine is 2.0.2600.2.

>>> Attached is the error I am getting.
MM> Could you please make the installation log file and send it
MM> to me? You can make the log by running

MM> msiexec /l*v file.log /i thebat_home.msi

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Re[2]: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Ian,
Friday, May 13, 2005, 4:27:12 AM, you wrote:

IAW> Stuart,

IAW> Going by the screen capture you posted, have you tried browsing to
IAW> where thebat_home.msi is?
Yes I tried that.
IAW> The dialog also says that a network resource
IAW> is not available. Are you trying to install the program from a network
IAW> drive?
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Re[2]: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Tony,
Friday, May 13, 2005, 3:54:35 AM, you wrote:

TB>   A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy on TBBETA typed on:
TB>   13 May 2005 at 02:30:32 GMT +0200

SC>>  Attached is the error I am getting.

TB>  There is no C:\WINDOWS\Desktop is there?

TB>  C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Desktop it should be surely?

Oh my, how soon we forget. Windows 98 here. No such fancy directories.
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Re[2]: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Raymund,
Friday, May 13, 2005, 12:21:44 AM, you wrote:

r> do you try to update?

Yes

r> It seems that the Windows Installer tries to call the installed Home
r> Edition as it needs the installation database for something.
r> As the installation file for the Home Edition is no longer where it was
r> as you installed it, you get the error.

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Re[3]: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Stuart,

Thursday, May 12, 2005, 3:28:22, you wrote:

>>Mine is 2.0.2600.2.

>> Attached is the error I am getting.
Could you please make the installation log file and send it to me? You can make 
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msiexec /l*v file.log /i thebat_home.msi

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Re: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Tony Boom]

Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Fjelsten on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 10:58:07 GMT +0200

PF> He is running Windows 98 - I'm quite sure there is no "Documents and
PF> Setting" there...

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Re: RC9 MSI installation: OK

[Martin Schoch]

Hi Martin

On Friday, May 13, 2005 11:15:52 AM you wrote:

> As far as I see it worked perfectly... The only thing which I didn't
> found from backup were ViewModes...

And yes - the help file is missing...

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RC9 MSI installation: OK

[Martin Schoch]

Hi tbbeta

Sometimes it I think it would be a good thing to give also a
positive feedback to developers ;-)

Ok - I made a very fresh "Plain" installation (before I cleared all
reg entries) with RC9 MSI and restored accounts, messages and so on
from backup.

As far as I see it worked perfectly... The only thing which I didn't
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Re: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Peter Fjelsten]

Tony,

On 13-05-2005 10:54, you [TB] wrote in
:
TB>  There is no C:\WINDOWS\Desktop is there?

TB>  C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Desktop it should be surely?

He is running Windows 98 - I'm quite sure there is no "Documents and
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Re: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Tony Boom]

Hello Stuart,

  A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy on TBBETA typed on:
  13 May 2005 at 02:30:32 GMT +0200

SC>  Attached is the error I am getting.

 There is no C:\WINDOWS\Desktop is there?

 C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Desktop it should be surely?


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Re: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[raymund]

Hi Stuart,
do you try to update?
It seems that the Windows Installer tries to call the installed Home 
Edition as it needs the installation database for something.
As the installation file for the Home Edition is no longer where it was 
as you installed it, you get the error.

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Re[2]: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Ian,
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 6:15:30 PM, you wrote:

IAW> I did not have any problems with installing RC9 MSI on my Win98 (not
IAW> SE) system.

Mine is SE. Don't know if that changes things.

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Re[2]: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Roelof,
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 6:14:40 PM, you wrote:

RO> What when you place the .msi somewhere else?

Have tried it from the bat home directory and root of C:

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Re[2]: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Maxim,
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 6:39:51 PM, you wrote:

>>>I just tried installing RC9 on Windows 98 and the install failed. It
>>>  mentioned  something  about  C:\windows\desktop  being  a not proper
>>>  place for the file. I will try again to see if it was an anomaly.

MM> Could you please move this MSI to the root of disk C and try
MM> again? If the install will fail, could you please run msiexec /l*v
MM> c:\file.log /i c:\thebat_professional.msi and send this log file
MM> to me?
Tried  this  no luck. Says to make sure it is an msi installer. I have
downloaded it twice to make sure.

MM> MSI installs may not start from SUBST'ed or virtual or
MM> removable drives, it's better to copy them to the local disk.
Nothing special here. Just on my C drive.

MM> Another good idea may be to upgrade Windows Installer Service
MM> to version 3.0. This version is included with XP SP2. Otherwise,
MM> you can download the "Windows Installer 3.0 Redistributable" from
MM> Microsoft Website from
MM> 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5fbc5470-b259-4733-a914-a956122e08e8&DisplayLang=en
MS  site says this is only for win2000 and newer. Is it a problem with
win98, do you know.

MM> However, our experience shows that "Windows Installer 3.0
MM> Redistributable" is not needed in most cases. That version of
MM> Windows Installer that already persists in Windows (1.1 or 2.0) is
MM> OK.
 Mine is 2.0.2600.2.

 Attached is the error I am getting.


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Re: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Stuart,

Thursday, May 12, 2005, 2:06:32, you wrote:

>>I just tried installing RC9 on Windows 98 and the install failed. It
>>  mentioned  something  about  C:\windows\desktop  being  a not proper
>>  place for the file. I will try again to see if it was an anomaly.
Could you please move this MSI to the root of disk C and try again? If the 
install will fail, could you please run msiexec /l*v c:\file.log /i 
c:\thebat_professional.msi and send this log file to me?

MSI installs may not start from SUBST'ed or virtual or removable drives, it's 
better to copy them to the local disk.

Another good idea may be to upgrade Windows Installer Service to version 3.0. 
This version is included with XP SP2. Otherwise, you can download the "Windows 
Installer 3.0 Redistributable" from Microsoft Website from 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5fbc5470-b259-4733-a914-a956122e08e8&DisplayLang=en

However, our experience shows that "Windows Installer 3.0 Redistributable" is 
not needed in most cases. That version of Windows Installer that already 
persists in Windows (1.1 or 2.0) is OK.


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Re: RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Stuart,

On Thu, 12 May 2005 18:06:32 -0500GMT (13-5-2005, 1:06 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

SC>   I just tried installing RC9 on Windows 98 and the install failed. It
SC>   mentioned  something  about  C:\windows\desktop  being  a not proper
SC>   place for the file. I will try again to see if it was an anomaly.

What when you place the .msi somewhere else?

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RC9 .msi Installation Failure

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello TBbeta,

  I just tried installing RC9 on Windows 98 and the install failed. It
  mentioned  something  about  C:\windows\desktop  being  a not proper
  place for the file. I will try again to see if it was an anomaly.


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.33 MSI-installation works (was: Wrapped .33)

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Maxim,

On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 at 9:26:51 AM Maxim [MM] wrote:

MM>   We've just wrapped the .33 with the MSI:
[...]
MM>   If nobody will found any trouble with it, we will make a
MM> new version announcement within a few hours.

At least no trouble with installation.

MSI shows wrong sizes (The Bat! Core files: 4k; Multilingual UI
4,3k?), but that's all I saw. "Add/Remove Programs" (still) contains
only one entry, so this seems to work as well.

Thanks and so long ...
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Re: MSI Installation

[Manuel Breitfeld]

Hello Eddie Castelli,

on 02.09.2004 at 15:29 you wrote:
EC> Thanks for your response. If I get you right I can just double click
EC> on the msi file?
Yes, you can. ;)

EC> Further question: can anyone send me the TB!pro v3.msi as I can't
EC> download it from Rit site.
Try this site: http://www.nobat.ru/index.php?id=337
Download: http://files.nobat.ru/beta3xx/1

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Re: MSI Installation

[Raymund Tump]

Hi Johannes!

> Ye ;-) Especially if you have to uninstall an MSI-enabled beta to
> install another MSI-enabled beta *g*

Well, that won't happen anymore I guess... But here the WI mechanism is
quite nice. If you update first all files are copied and if there are files
deleted from the installation, these are deleted from the disk.

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Re[2]: MSI Installation

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Boris,

Tuesday, August 17, 2004, 14:12:43, you wrote:


>>> If The Bat! is running during the uninstall, the uninstaller
>>> doesn't proceed until the user closes The Bat! It displays this
>>> dialog box (see attachment). Is that OK?

>>Why is the ignore button not disabled? 

This is a good idea to disable it.

>>And shouldn't have NFS and
>>HTML-Bug higher priority?

Yes, they do have a higher priority.

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Re: MSI Installation

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Ian!

On Sunday, June 13, 2004 at 12:35:55 AM you wrote:

> I could probably have deleted the key while in the registry.

Surely, didn't know you are comfortable enough in the registry to find
your way around and rename entries. Instead of renaming you could as
easily and with adverse effects have hit .

BTW, read that tip a few weeks ago, if you want to get rid of all the
MS patch entries in the uninstaller window, you can delete the
packages and then try to uninstall them. Windows can't find the
necessary info and will ask you to delete the entry itself. This
should also work, I think, if you move uninstall info somewhere else.

Caveat: Don't try this at home, kids! And don't hold me responsible if
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Re: MSI Installation

[hggdh]

Hello Greg,

Saturday, June 12, 2004, 3:09:09 PM, you wrote:


GS> I tried this with NO luck. Still have doulble entries in Add/Remove
GS> programs for TB in the control panel.

GS> Any other ideals?

XTeq X-Setup allows you to delete extra uninstall entries in the
add/remove programs -- http://www.x-setup.net/

Also good to clean up MSI installs is the Microsoft Installer Clean-up
Utility -- see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;240116

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Re: MSI Installation

[Greg Strong]

Hello Miroslav,

Friday, June 11, 2004, 6:27:14 PM, Miroslav Florensen wrote:

I will have to try and find something to remove the entry from Add or
Remove Programs.

>> If you will add a neat program to do it, just let us know by sharing
>> the URL.

MF> try 'TuneUp Utilities 2004' there is a Uninstall Manager - it works
MF> perfectly.

MF> EN: http://www.tune-up.com/products/tu2004/
MF> DE: http://www.tuneup.de/products/tu2004/


I tried this with NO luck. Still have doulble entries in Add/Remove
programs for TB in the control panel.

Any other ideals?


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Re: MSI Installation

[Greg Strong]

Hello Greg,

Saturday, June 12, 2004, 6:40:32 PM, Greg Strong wrote:

MW>> or look in
MW>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
MW>> to remove the unwanted key.


GS> There was only 1 there for TB so I saved it to a reg file, then deleted.
GS> I now only have one TB in control panel add/remove programs. So it looks
GS> like I'm good to go now.

Interesting thing is in the control panel add/remove programs for TB is
says last used 6/13/04.  It is still only 6/12/04,  h. glitch!


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Re: MSI Installation

[Greg Strong]

Hello Martin,

Saturday, June 12, 2004, 3:20:09 PM, Martin Webster wrote:

MW> or look in
MW> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
MW> to remove the unwanted key.


There was only 1 there for TB so I saved it to a reg file, then deleted.
I now only have one TB in control panel add/remove programs. So it looks
like I'm good to go now. Thanks!


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Re: MSI Installation

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Ian!

On Saturday, June 12, 2004 at 11:26:21 PM you wrote:

> I downloaded this, only which one do you delete in RegCleaner? Is it
> sorted in the same way as in Add or Remove Programs? Right clicking
> and picking Advanced shows the same registry key.

Know what you mean, had the same decision dilemma. that's why I asked
for a more informative entry by RITLabs.

In my set-up the first TB entry in the software uninstall window was
the old one, as was reflected in RegCleaner. So, it was the first
entry I chose.

The worst thing that could happen to you is that you clear the wrong
one and have to find the uninstaller info manually. I am not sure but
think a re-run of the installer with the option Repair chosen should
bring back the correct entry. Be sure to delete the remaining, wrong
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Re: MSI Installation

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Greg!

On Saturday, June 12, 2004 at 9:58:54 PM you wrote:

> Well I downloaded RegClean & tried it.  I still have 2 TB entries in
> add/remove programs within the control panel.

I used RegCleaner 4.3 by a Finnish guy, and it worked like a charm.
The software is now part of a commercially distributed tuning utility
by the same guy.



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Re: I hate MSI installers (was: Re: MSI Installation)

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Dimitry!

On Saturday, June 12, 2004 at 9:24:23 PM you wrote:

> All these nasty workarounds for something that an installer is
> supposed to do... Alas, this is an extremely typical example of the
> Windows Installer engine.

Simply wrong as can be seen from the messages Maxim wrote about this
specific problem. It is *not* an error in MSI but a half-way
implementation by RITLabs, one of the things they wanted to find
during this beta.

> For the people that don't get it yet: I hate MSI installers.

Thanks for the info, don't know how I could have lived without it.

> They always tend to corrupt themselves, asking for the .msi file at
> the most unexpected moments, failing to reinstall, uninstall or
> upgrade software for any number of extremely technical reasons. It
> always requires heavy registry editing to totally get rid of them,
> so can attempt to reinstall a damaged software package.

Sorry, but (and I usually am not a big fan of MS' software) I've yet
to see a problem with MSI. Had much more trouble with other
installers, Ghost for example.




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MSI Installation

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Peter,

>>MM>We've compiled an MSI Installation (experimental), it is
>>MM> available in the Beta Download Area.

>>It seems to work ok here, but as I'm a single user on a single
>>computer, the advantages don't apply to me, or do they?

The advantage is that the MSI file is digitally signed and you can verify the 
signature before installing the program to ensure that the contents haven't been 
infected in transit by a virus or a mailicious user.

Another andantage is that MSI uninstalls absolutely everything it has installed. So 
"The Bat!" folder under the "Program Files" will be accurately cleaned after the 
uninstallation.

We have also implemented a smarter algorithm to clean the Working Directory. 
Previously, the uninstaller did merely delete the Working Directory with all its 
subdirectories. If the user had configured "C:\" as a working directory, he/she has 
been lost after the program data removal because the uninstaller did delete 
everyithing on disk "C". Now the uninstaller distinguishes between account 
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MSI Installation

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello George,

>>Installation failed. See the attached image (I pressed CTRL-C but the message
>>error text couldn't be captured)

>>The file mentioned there existed, wasn't opened and my account has
>>administrator rights

Did you have The Bat! previously installed into "D:\Data\THE BAT"? Did you install it 
under the same account?  


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Re: MSI Installation

[Thomas Woelk]

* Miroslav Florensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello Maxim Masiutin,

>> We would like to hear your feedback how should MSI cooperate

[...]

> The automatically generated German Welcome-Mail contains still old
> data from Integrated Services. see attach [2]

I updated the «welc_de.txt» on the CVS server.

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