Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Mark Partous]

Hello Me,

Wednesday, April 20, 2005, 9:25:37 AM, you wrote:

MP> Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 4:00:15 PM, you wrote:

CW>> Or has there been a none reversable change in
CW>> message base formats?

MP> Not that I'am aware of. Anyone else?

See what you get from threading by reference? You don't see that the question
has already been answered, that is: you only see it after your have posted
your message.  :-)


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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Mark Partous]

Hello Chris,

Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 4:00:15 PM, you wrote:

CW> Or has there been a none reversable change in
CW> message base formats?

Not that I'am aware of. Anyone else?

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Chris Wilson]

Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 8:52:27 PM, you wrote:


> Hi Chris Wilson,

> Tuesday, April 19, 2005 
> you let us know -at least in parts- :


>>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30210.rar

>> It's still there, I will be downloading it later. Many thanks. I'll keep
>> a few earlier stable releases from now on!

> Have you given up the new version? Thought it was running finally your
> place, too.

I need to switch between early stable version with accurate and reliable
spell checker and reference only threading for work, and the alpha /
betas for fun at home. I am now able to do this, thanks in the main, to
you :) I have no problem with bizarre behaviour from the new versions,
but it was impacting on work, so I needed to be able to switch around.





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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello MAU,

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 you wrote in 

M> No, because it is not really a bug. RIT guys do read this list, so you
M> have already added your 2 cents

and so have I already but I might as well do it again just to make
the point because it really is quite infuriating having to find a
message miles back that just happens to be threaded to a very old thread
with the same subject.

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[The Final Cut]

Hello MAU

On Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 3:51:23 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

M> No, because it is not really a bug. RIT guys do read this list, so you
M> have already added your 2 cents :)

perfect! :)


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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[MAU]

Hello The,

> Is there a buglist filled about that so I can put a vote or something.  I want
> to add my 2 cent

No, because it is not really a bug. RIT guys do read this list, so you
have already added your 2 cents :)

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hi Chris Wilson,

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 
you let us know -at least in parts- :


>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30210.rar

> It's still there, I will be downloading it later. Many thanks. I'll keep
> a few earlier stable releases from now on!

Have you given up the new version? Thought it was running finally your
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Re[2]: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Tim Casten]

Hello MAU,

Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 10:41:08 AM, you wrote:

> No problem at all if you revert to 3.0.2.10, I do it several times a day
> some times. You will see your messages properly threaded by Reference.


10 is the only one that is semi-stable for me!


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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[The Final Cut]

Hello MAU

On Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 7:04:28 AM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

M> Hello all,

M> After deleting my existing tbuser.def and a couple of tweaks I find the
M> last beta, v3.0.9.17 quite stable and would certainly like to use it all
M> day long for my work, which is the way I like to test betas.

M> However, quite unfortunately and as I think I have explained before in
M> this list, the threading by Reference+Subject which was introduced with
M> this beta series is a "no-no" for me and that forces me to revert all
M> the way to 3.0.2.10.

M> I know RIT guys intend to re-instate the possibility of threading by
M> Reference _only_ (and hopefully allowing also Reference+Subject to
M> satisfy everyone) and I can understand that this is not a high priority
M> at this time for most users and therefore for RIT. But it does "force"
M> me to use 3.0.2.10 during my works hours and I am sorry about it.

Same goes for me.  Some mailing list that I am subscribed just dont sort 
correctly.
Is there a buglist filled about that so I can put a vote or something.  I want 
to add my 2 cent

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Chris Wilson]

Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 7:40:02 PM, you wrote:


> Hello Chris,

> Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 8:24:49 PM, among other things, you wrote:


CW>> Thanks for that, now I have found I have deleted 3.0.2.10. Is it on the
CW>> Ritlabs site? I haven't got web access until tomorrow. Cheers.

> I don't know if it is still available, but the original URL was:

> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb30210.rar



It's still there, I will be downloading it later. Many thanks. I'll keep
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Re[2]: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Chris,

Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 8:24:49 PM, among other things, you wrote:


CW> Thanks for that, now I have found I have deleted 3.0.2.10. Is it on the
CW> Ritlabs site? I haven't got web access until tomorrow. Cheers.

I don't know if it is still available, but the original URL was:

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Chris Wilson]

Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 3:41:08 PM, you wrote:


> Hello Chris,

>> I have a question, if I were to revert to 3.0.2.10 myself would the
>> current message bases then be automatically re-threadable to their earlier
>> reference only formats? Or has there been a none reversable change in
>> message base formats?

> No problem at all if you revert to 3.0.2.10, I do it several times a day
> some times. You will see your messages properly threaded by Reference.


Thanks for that, now I have found I have deleted 3.0.2.10. Is it on the
Ritlabs site? I haven't got web access until tomorrow. Cheers.


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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[MAU]

Hello Alexander,

> Thats still not fixed? What a shame, you reported it already a month ago,
> and this is REALLY a show-stopper.

It doesn't need to be fixed as it is not a bug, it was  a change
requested by (apparently) many users. 9Val told me it will be changed
again, probably to include both options: threading by Reference only and
by Reference+Subject. It just has low priority at the moment.

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello MAU & everyone else,

on 19-Apr-2005 at 13:04 you (MAU) wrote:

> However, quite unfortunately and as I think I have explained before in
> this list, the threading by Reference+Subject which was introduced with
> this beta series is a "no-no" for me and that forces me to revert all
> the way to 3.0.2.10.

Thats still not fixed? What a shame, you reported it already a month ago,
and this is REALLY a show-stopper.

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[MAU]

Hello Chris,

> I have a question, if I were to revert to 3.0.2.10 myself would the
> current message bases then be automatically re-threadable to their earlier
> reference only formats? Or has there been a none reversable change in
> message base formats?

No problem at all if you revert to 3.0.2.10, I do it several times a day
some times. You will see your messages properly threaded by Reference.

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[MAU]

Hello Prezes,

M>> However, quite unfortunately and as I think I have explained before in
M>> this list, the threading by Reference+Subject which was introduced with
M>> this beta series is a "no-no" for me and that forces me to revert all
M>> the way to 3.0.2.10.
> 
> Confirmed - this is the reason why I don't use any 3.0.9.x versions,
> but only 3.0.2.10 - and I can't test them...

Well, I have downloaded and installed all of them and do some testing on
my spare time (which is not much). I would be willing to take the risk
of new or unknown bugs by using betas for my normal work which I think
is a good test bed, but I can't do so because the change made to
threading by Reference (which is not a bug).

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Prezes]

Hello,
Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 1:04:28 PM, you wrote:

M> However, quite unfortunately and as I think I have explained before in
M> this list, the threading by Reference+Subject which was introduced with
M> this beta series is a "no-no" for me and that forces me to revert all
M> the way to 3.0.2.10.

Confirmed - this is the reason why I don't use any 3.0.9.x versions,
but only 3.0.2.10 - and I can't test them...

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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Chris Wilson]

Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 2:33:33 PM, you wrote:


> Hello MAU,

> Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 5:04:28 AM, you wrote:
M>> I know RIT guys intend to re-instate the possibility of threading
M>> by Reference _only_ (and hopefully allowing also Reference+Subject
M>> to satisfy everyone) and I can understand that this is not a high
M>> priority at this time for most users and therefore for RIT. But it
M>> does "force" me to use 3.0.2.10 during my works hours and I am
M>> sorry about it.

> I'm not reverting, but I agree with you 100%... It's extremely
> irritating to have to hunt down messages which get buried in threads
> that are months to years old even though they just came in yesterday.


For someone like myself who uses TB! to keep abreast of customers
ordering parts and their later satisfaction it's embarrassing when I am
told that I have failed to follow up on an enquiry for just the reasons
you cite.

I have a question, if I were to revert to 3.0.2.10 myself would the
current message bases then be automatically re-threadable to their earlier
reference only formats? Or has there been a none reversable change in
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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Leif Gregory]

Hello MAU,

Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 5:04:28 AM, you wrote:
M> I know RIT guys intend to re-instate the possibility of threading
M> by Reference _only_ (and hopefully allowing also Reference+Subject
M> to satisfy everyone) and I can understand that this is not a high
M> priority at this time for most users and therefore for RIT. But it
M> does "force" me to use 3.0.2.10 during my works hours and I am
M> sorry about it.

I'm not reverting, but I agree with you 100%... It's extremely
irritating to have to hunt down messages which get buried in threads
that are months to years old even though they just came in yesterday.


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Re: My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[Peter Fjelsten]

MAU,

On 19-04-2005 13:04, you [M] wrote in
:
M> But it does "force" me to use 3.0.2.10 during my works hours and I am
M> sorry about it.

Agreed. For me this is also so annoying that I cannot test betas to any
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My reasons to revert to 3.0.2.10

[MAU]

Hello all,

After deleting my existing tbuser.def and a couple of tweaks I find the
last beta, v3.0.9.17 quite stable and would certainly like to use it all
day long for my work, which is the way I like to test betas.

However, quite unfortunately and as I think I have explained before in
this list, the threading by Reference+Subject which was introduced with
this beta series is a "no-no" for me and that forces me to revert all
the way to 3.0.2.10.

I know RIT guys intend to re-instate the possibility of threading by
Reference _only_ (and hopefully allowing also Reference+Subject to
satisfy everyone) and I can understand that this is not a high priority
at this time for most users and therefore for RIT. But it does "force"
me to use 3.0.2.10 during my works hours and I am sorry about it.

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