Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-29 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:03:17 +0200, Mark Partous wrote:

[Code Rot]

Daar geloof ik nu eens niks van!  :-)

Translated: I do not believe any of this! :-).

OK. Read this:

http://www.objectmentor.com/resources/articles/Principles_and_Patterns.pdf

I'll quote just a very small part of this very interessing
document:

Fragility. Closely related to rigidity is fragility. Fragility is
the tendency of the software to break in many places every time it
is changed. Often the breakage occurs in areas that have no
conceptual relationship with the area that was changed. Such 
errors fill the hearts of managers with foreboding. Every time they
authorize a fix, they fear that the software will break in some
unexpected way.

Now does that sound familiar?


Arjan
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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-28 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Arjan,

Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 6:20:47 AM, you wrote:

AdG You Did It Again !!!

When filtering on the reply-to header field it should not arrive on the list.

I don't know if Forte Agent is capable of doing that?


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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-28 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Arjan,

Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 6:02:32 AM, you wrote:

If you only know one note, don't try to sing.

Correction:  when  using  different  keys,  you  can, but it will sound like the
 beginning of a Tangerine Dream song.

AdG Yes, that's exactly why I recommended some reading stuff on 
AdG code rot.

Daar geloof ik nu eens niks van!  :-)


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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-27 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Arjan,

Sunday, July 26, 2009, 7:53:41 PM, you wrote:

I they stop developement in Moldavia, simply checking the Source to an
OpenSource Project and wait one year, then you will see what The Bat!
could be able to be like...

AdG That may be a little bit optimistic. Just do a Google search on
AdG code rot and you will know why.

If you only know one note, don't try to sing.


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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-27 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:39:13 +0200, Mark Partous wrote:

I they stop developement in Moldavia, simply checking the 
Source to an OpenSource Project and wait one year, then you 
will see what The Bat! could be able to be like...

That may be a little bit optimistic. Just do a Google search 
on code rot and you will know why.

If you only know one note, don't try to sing.

Yes, that's exactly why I recommended some reading stuff on 
code rot.


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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-27 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:04:23 +0200 (CEST), i...@mikus.cz wrote:

[Snipped Private Header Bits]

To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
In-Reply-To: onts65hvs3pg3qgpq8bnbd1054q9fqn...@linu.demon.nl
References: 123815479.20090725233...@gmx.de
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   1061343350.20090727103...@partous.com
 onts65hvs3pg3qgpq8bnbd1054q9fqn...@linu.demon.nl
Subject: Re: Nice new Features of Filters
From: i...@mikus.cz
Message-Id: 20090728040423.4e34516a0...@melissa.ipex.cz
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:04:23 +0200 (CEST)

Dobry den,
do 7.8. jsem mimo kancelar, v urgentnich zalezitostech prosim kontaktujte
kolegu na emailu pavel.zo...@ipex.cz.

IŽm out of office till 7.8. contact please collegue at email
pavel.zo...@ipex.cz.

Marek Mikus

You Did It Again !!!


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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-26 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Arjan de Groot,

am Sonntag, 26. Juli 2009 um 01:30 schrieben Sie:

my Filter for Conrad Elektronics Sender contains @conrad.de is
sorting out a Message from @googlemail.com - Very nice Henry.

Strange. My conrad.de filter works just fine. :)

 Trying to confuse the Ritlabs programmers is not very nice. It
 could lead to unwanted development issues and further delays in
 IMAP improvement.

What do you think, should one do, which has some very strange Errors,
but nothing happens?

What do you think in which century will the Common Folders Problems be
fixed?

When will the Message Count for Subfolders be fixed?

When will the Sign for Attachments (PaperClip) be fixed, sometimes it
shows without Number, sometimes with Number?

When will The Bat! display the Columns in a fitting with, while
opening or creating a new Folder - every Folder has to be adjusted the
Columns initially?

When will the Backup be improved to backup anything (including Common
Filters - maybe it is already included?)

Why is there no Filter Manager?
Why can Filters not be exported, imported?

When do HTML PNG Pictures will not have a black Background any more?

When will HTML be improved to work like in Thunderbird?

When will IMAP be improved to work a little bit?

This Filter sorted out a Message from googlemail.com to Folder
PirateParty:

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [0320E770.01C87DDC.247F57DC.02AE694E]
Name: Conrad
Filter: {\0d\0a\20`0...@conrad.de\0d\0a}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5CImport\5CBestellungen\5CConrad\20Elektronik
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter

After doing the filtering again manually the Mail disappeared.

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We are more than some miles away from a good working eMail Client.
It is Kind of surprise, if it works like expected and if you have the
needed workarounds.

Thats fact for me and i will not shut up, nor stop telling this.

I they stop developement in Moldavia, simply checking the Source to an
OpenSource Project and wait one year, then you will see what The Bat!
could be able to be like...

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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-26 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:15:46 +0200, Jens Franik wrote:

I they stop developement in Moldavia, simply checking the Source to an
OpenSource Project and wait one year, then you will see what The Bat!
could be able to be like...

That may be a little bit optimistic. Just do a Google search on
code rot and you will know why.


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Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-25 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag   The Bat! Beta,

my Filter for Conrad Elektronics Sender contains @conrad.de is
sorting out a Message from @googlemail.com - Very nice Henry.

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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-25 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Jens,

on  Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:39:15 +0200GMT (25.07.2009, 23:39 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

JF Guten Tag   The Bat! Beta,

JF my Filter for Conrad Elektronics Sender contains @conrad.de is
JF sorting out a Message from @googlemail.com - Very nice Henry.

Strange. My conrad.de filter works just fine. :)

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Re: Nice new Features of Filters

2009-07-25 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:46:29 +0200, Peter Meyns wrote:

my Filter for Conrad Elektronics Sender contains @conrad.de is
sorting out a Message from @googlemail.com - Very nice Henry.

Strange. My conrad.de filter works just fine. :)

Trying to confuse the Ritlabs programmers is not very nice. It
could lead to unwanted development issues and further delays in
IMAP improvement.


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