Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
Hello Ian, On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:48:18 +1000 GMT (13/Sep/09, 3:48 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: TF I'm thinking about an algorithm that makes the editor stick to the TF template but the rest of the template be ignored... difficult, to say TF the least. You get the point. IAW I have been going through this again. IAW If the message is a plain text message saved as a draft, then apart IAW from any user attachments, the message as saved in the outbox as a IAW draft will contain no attachments. IAW If the message is a HTML only or HTML/Plain Text, then there is an IAW attachment added by The Bat! called Message.html, so this is all that IAW needs to be checked for. If there is no Message.html, it should be IAW opened as a plain text message. If not, then it would have to be a IAW HTML message and should be edited as such. There can stil be an attachment called message.html which is not the HTML version of the message. Anyway, a tag or flag seems to be the solution. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.10.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
Hello Ian, On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:27:38 +1000 GMT (11/Sep/09, 13:27 PM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: TF I'm thinking about an algorithm that makes the editor stick to the TF template but the rest of the template be ignored... difficult, to say TF the least. You get the point. IAW But it would not be that difficult to have The Bat! store a flag value IAW that indicates what editor was used to create the message while it is IAW in the Outbox. I don't know how many values the flags can have currently. IAW After all, until the message gets sent it is all part of The IAW Bat!. That flag does not need to be sent and could be the first IAW thing that is stripped from the message. To handle older created IAW messages that would not have this flag, just do what happens now. It would require to add a variable with a value to each message, via the index file. IAW The program could even just look at the address book template and IAW use what is there. No. The program forgets the template the moment you type anything into the body. In fact, I take advantage of that characteristic. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.10.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
Guten Morgen, IAW Years ago I used to have a folder template, however [...] I see, thank you for the discription. You are doing the opposite from what I'm looking for: You are writing emails using different editors, I want to see emails using different viewers. Unfortunatly, I don't think your method can be used to achieve my target. Thanks anyway! -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de The Bat! 4.2.10.1 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpBJbmjXfItF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
On Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:58:36 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: But the logic of your problem is this: When you create the message, the folder/AB template applies with regards to the editor. If you reopen it from the editor, TB! forgets about that template and uses the default editor. first of all, i can't confirm. I use microed, and tested with an html message. it remained html message. 2d, if your explanation is correct, that makes no sense to me. the message should be in whatever format it was created in, as long as it exists in the outbox or in sent messages. (no comment on the draft folder) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
Hello Dwight, On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:30:41 -0500 GMT (12/Sep/09, 8:30 AM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: But the logic of your problem is this: When you create the message, the folder/AB template applies with regards to the editor. If you reopen it from the editor, TB! forgets about that template and uses the default editor. DC first of all, i can't confirm. I use microed, and tested with an html DC message. it remained html message. Interesting. Ian originally reported that this does not work when it is the other way around. Before we try all variations and make guesses, maybe the developers can share light on how this is supposed to work. DC 2d, if your explanation is correct, that makes no sense to me. the DC message should be in whatever format it was created in, as long as it DC exists in the outbox or in sent messages. (no comment on the draft DC folder) I agree that it should. The issue here is whether it does, and if not, is that a bug or a bad design? - For Ian it didn't work. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.10.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
On Friday, September 11, 2009, 9:15:26 PM, Ian A. White wrote: Are you saying that your default message format is Plain Text; you created a message in HTML format; saved it to your Outbox as a draft; then double-clicked on it in the Outbox and the message format remained as HTML when it was re-edited? yes. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
Guten Morgen, IAW I have HTML set as my default format for sending messages, however I IAW have it set as Plain Text for these lists. How did you do that? It's what I was looking for quite some time - have some folders displayed as html, the rest as text-only. Where did you find that configuration per-folder? -- MfG, Altomailto:a...@treadstone79.de The Bat! 4.2.10.1 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpJiO9jGmRgM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
Hello Ian, On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:57:21 +1000 GMT (10/Sep/09, 10:57 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW I prepared a message to the list and tried to use delayed sending. It IAW did not work (surprise, surprise), so I went to the outbox and IAW double-clicked the message to edit it. Well, it was no longer Plain IAW Text, but HTML only. [...] IAW Anyone know how to stop this? I don't like raw fish :) They use steamed fish these days. Much softer, except for the bones. But the logic of your problem is this: When you create the message, the folder/AB template applies with regards to the editor. If you reopen it from the editor, TB! forgets about that template and uses the default editor. Reason being that a template will not be applied when a message body has beeen altered. And this means that TB! works as designed (WAD), but that is not desirable in your case! I'm thinking about an algorithm that makes the editor stick to the template but the rest of the template be ignored... difficult, to say the least. You get the point. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.10.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
Hello list, On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:58:36 +0700 GMT (10/Sep/09, 23:58 PM +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF But the logic of your problem is this: When you create the message, TF the folder/AB template applies with regards to the editor. If you TF reopen it from the editor, TB! forgets about that template and uses TF the default editor. Of course, I meant: If you reopen from the Outbox... -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.10.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
